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Lair looks good actually after seeing the newest screens! - Sep 08, 2006 19:27
What we were promised...





What we will get...




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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 19:29
Damn you Gangsta!

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 19:30
Oh, cool screenshot! I didn' t know Lair was being released on the PS2.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 19:36
are u sure these pics show the lastest status of the game... i can' t believe it could be that bad.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 19:37
you' ve got 2 screenshots so I' m closing mine :)

To be honest majik , after seeing DMC4 and this... you know what I' m about to say :)

I still have faith in Factor 5 - if their game sucks , it means PS3 wasn' t good enough :)

But honestly - it looks like a previous gen PC title
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 19:51

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you' ve got 2 screenshots so I' m closing mine :)

To be honest majik , after seeing DMC4 and this... you know what I' m about to say :)

I still have faith in Factor 5 - if their game sucks , it means PS3 wasn' t good enough :)

But honestly - it looks like a previous gen PC title


Factor 5 can' t be to blame, they achieved amazing things on Gamecube (a console that can' t push as many poly' s as PS2) and if this is what Lair is going to look like then either PS3 has some serious shortcomings or it' s really hard to get good results from it.

Lair has been moved back to next summer anyway so what are the chances of it improving 10 fold?!

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 20:12
Hmmm...yeah,i agree look at their starwars games,one of the better looking game from prev gen.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 20:43
It' s not just lair even their recent screens of africa looks downgraded to me so i' m inclined to think that maybe it' s because people are still trying to get a hold on what the ps3 can do...at least I hope so.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 20:45
where are those pics from tha africa game (thing?)

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 20:57




Or maybe i' m going too much on the trailer they showed

oh and motor storm...with more blurry effects yeay!!!




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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:02
I don' t understand how people are so surprised by the quality of some PS3 games. I mean, you were pre-warned!

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:07


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I don' t understand how people are so surprised by the quality of some PS3 games. I mean, you were pre-warned!


Yeah but ...I guess the trailer to africa got me a bit intrigued because it was different than the other power pushers they had (i.e heavenly sword, motorstorm lair fall of man) and it looked great but to me those screens look so flat with a bit of outlining.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:23
these games are still in devolpemt, if we can get games on ps3 that look like mgs4, then surely they can do better.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:24


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these games are still in devolpemt, if we can get games on ps3 that look like mgs4, then surely they can do better.


Yeah but silent when have you seen stills or just screens from mgs4?.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:27
I think ewverything will be cleared up at Tgs.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:28

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ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

these games are still in devolpemt, if we can get games on ps3 that look like mgs4, then surely they can do better.


Yeah but silent when have you seen stills or just screens from mgs4?.


MGS4 so far has all been video, none of it gameplay.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 21:30


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I think ewverything will be cleared up at Tgs.


Hopefully because after the lot they' ve been through they need to show that it was all justified or at least worth it.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:05
Hmm that first screen has an ingame hud. Maybe that new one IS for the ps2. It would certainly explain the huge loss of quailty.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:11
I have to disagree with you guys - I was pleasantly surprised by many PS3 games and their visuals at E3 - heavenly sword or resistance - and these were games running on unfinished hardware.

I now Factor 5 can make awesome visuals and great " AIR" gameplay , but the " walking missions" on GCN were terrible.

And GCN can push more polys than PS2 - the only thing that says different are Sony' s specs :)

I think this game could get a nice visual boost if they droped to 720p - anyway, those screenshots are a great reply to everyone who wondered what would be sacrificed for 1080p.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:35

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I think this game could get a nice visual boost if they droped to 720p - anyway, those screenshots are a great reply to everyone who wondered what would be sacrificed for 1080p.


That screen IS 720p ...

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:36


ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on


ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

I think this game could get a nice visual boost if they droped to 720p - anyway, those screenshots are a great reply to everyone who wondered what would be sacrificed for 1080p.


That screen IS 720p ...


He knows that he' s probably just trying to pretend it' s not.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:37
Yeah , but the game itself is made to run in 1080p ...or did they change that?

if this game looks like that in 720p then Factor 5 will be another company that was awesome under N' s wing and can' n do shit without them (RARE).


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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:40


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Yeah , but the game itself is made to run in 1080p ...or did they change that?

if this game looks like that in 720p then Factor 5 will be another company that was awesome under N' s wing and can' n do shit without them (RARE).




I' m sorry but you' re taking a dip again man.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 22:45
I didn' t take anything! I swear!

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 08, 2006 23:41

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Yeah , but the game itself is made to run in 1080p ...or did they change that?

if this game looks like that in 720p then Factor 5 will be another company that was awesome under N' s wing and can' n do shit without them (RARE).




It' s rumoured that it' ll be 1080p, but as you say, doing that would mean some significant sacrifices.



I want to point out that the screen posted on page one was taken from the Official Japanese Playstation site.

These are also available there...





...and i can see a shitload of graphical letdowns in these screenshots too. However, the game has been delayed until next summer anyway so i expect to see a cheeky (not actually running on hardware but still claimed to be) playable demo at TGS that looks much better than what we see here.

PS3 seems to have problems with normal/bump mapping -- all i' m seeing is flat textures of varying resolutions. There have been some expections though, -- Resistance looks awesome for example.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 00:54
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!

Ps3 sucks!!!
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 01:06
ps3 failing to deliver? Where have i heard that before?

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 02:07
What would the world be like without Fanboys?



But those two last pics look much better than the first one. Still alot of work to be done, but if Resistance can go from ' meh' to ' nice' this can surely do the same, since its so early in devolpment.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 02:10
I can' t wait to see impressions of resistance from game sites when it comes out (genuinely).

all except 1up that is.
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 03:47
man i want belive that the ps3 looks like that unil i get it for my self in june 2007 i dont belive anything anymore i wanna see it on my tv dam that

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 04:00

I don' t belive anything anymore


Yeah whose fault is that? Anyway, I didn' t expect this bad a loss in quality, but then again everything else has gone to hell. Oh and, resistance actually went from looking incredible in it' s first trailer (back when it was I-8) but now graphically looks worse than CoD2, and the physics have a " nostalgic" factor to them; It' s nice to see the old-fashioned " manequin" ragdolls back in action.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 04:18

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I don' t belive anything anymore


Yeah whose fault is that? Anyway, I didn' t expect this bad a loss in quality, but then again everything else has gone to hell. Oh and, resistance actually went from looking incredible in it' s first trailer (back when it was I-8) but now graphically looks worse than CoD2, and the physics have a " nostalgic" factor to them; It' s nice to see the old-fashioned " manequin" ragdolls back in action.


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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 04:23
Once again i must defend sony...

I-8 looks good.
Yes,it' s not a gears of war,but come on,it really looks good.
We can' t compare everything to MGS4/Gears of war,and then condmned lesser looking game as medicore/trash.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 09, 2006 04:38

Once again i must defend sony...

I-8 looks good.
Yes,it' s not a gears of war,but come on,it really looks good.
We can' t compare everything to MGS4/Gears of war,and then condmned lesser looking game as medicore/trash.


Yeah your right

the ps3 can produce great graphics just look at fight night we just will have to wait and see what happens. Im sure the ps3 can go head to head with the 360. Gears of war as much as i hate that game and that kind of game play it just looks Sexy

I' ll guess ill give GOW A try why not. I better here some news about KillZone 2 at tgs or its ass kicking Time
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 13, 2006 20:56
Lair' s newest pictures,

it looks much better:

http://www.gamers.fr/lire_news.php?id=17668

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RE: Lair looks good actually after seeing the newest screens! - Sep 13, 2006 21:50
They loomk much better.

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 13, 2006 23:08
yep that' s better - thid should ruin one 360 fanboy' s DAY :)

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 14, 2006 02:46
It' s nice to know that the one' s that look better don' t really have a HuD.. Either
way they look better, the lack of HuD doen' t really bother me, I know they will
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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 14, 2006 03:00
what might be worrying about the absence of the hood if that it might not be ingame (and that' s actualy why it looks better) but who knows...

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RE: Lair looks f**king awful! - Sep 14, 2006 05:33
Even without this HUD , those screens are alrght - not mindblowing (like Glock 19 for instance).

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