Hezbollah SORRY

Hezbollah chief Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah has said he would not have ordered the capture of two Israeli soldiers if he had known it would lead to such a war.

" Had we known that the kidnapping of the soldiers would have led to this, we would definitely not have done it," he said in an interview on Lebanese TV.

He added that neither side was " heading towards a second round" of fighting.

More than 1,000 Lebanese died in the 34-day conflict which left much of southern Lebanon in ruins.

The Israeli offensive began after two Israeli soldiers were seized during a cross border raid by Hezbollah militants on 12 July.

Annan visit

" We did not think that there was a 1% chance that the kidnapping would lead to a war of this scale and magnitude," Sheikh Nasrallah said.

" Now you ask me if this was 11 July and there was a 1% chance that the kidnapping would lead to a war like the one that has taken place, would you go ahead with the kidnapping?

" I would say no, definitely not, for humanitarian, moral, social, security, military and political reasons.

Mother and child outside ruined building
Many thousands have been left homeless by the offensive
" Neither I, Hezbollah, prisoners in Israeli jails and nor the families of the prisoners would accept it."

Sheikh Nasrallah was speaking on the eve of a visit to Beirut by United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan to discuss the expanded UN peacekeeping force to be deployed in southern Lebanon.

A force of 15,000 soldiers, 7,000 of them from European Union states, will be deployed to maintain the fragile ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

The UN hopes to have some of the troops on the ground within a week, although the foreign minister of Finland - which currently holds the EU presidency - has said it will be two to three months before the whole force is deployed.

The force will be led by France until February, at which time Italy will take command.

Speaking in Brussels on Friday, Mr Annan said the plan would only work if the enlarged UN force, called Unifil 2, was " strong, credible and robust" .

Mr Annan said the force offered the possibility of a " durable ceasefire and long-term solution" to the Middle East crisis.

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Terrorist fucks!

Israel should just wipe the bastards out!

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on


Israel should just wipe the bastards out!

I agree. This war along with the other stuff going on in the Middle East is going to lead to the next World War. Being that the UN created present day Isreal we have to protect them if things get bad.

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In summery..

" Wops! my bad guys!"

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

We should nuke all of the middle east, including the dumb fucks in Isreal.

You can' t eliminate a terrorist group by violent means. Everytime you kill a member of Hezbolla you give his family and friends a reason to join.

After all, when the shooting stopped the first thing Hezbolla did was start handing out stacks of money. In the mean time Isreal dropped another airstrike.

Isreal' s knee-jerk reaction to the capture of two soldiers was stupid. They blew up the homes of the few friends they had in Lebanon and gave Hezbolla all the fuel they needed to create more hatred towards them.

Yes, Hezbolla is a treat to Isreal...but what hs Isreal really done to eliminate that threat?
How the hell did they think that destroying Lebanon' s infrastructure would eliminate Hezbolla when they KNOW Hezbolla doesn' t depend on the local infrastucture as much as the already powerless government does?

What they SHOULD and WOULD have done was approach the Lebanese government and cooperate with them to help expell Hezbolla. If they actually wanted peace, they would help the obviously weak Lebanese government get strong and take control of their own country.

But a peaceful Middle East with Isreal surrounded by strong, cooperative Arab governments is not Isreal' s ideal. They want to dominate the region, and they know they have western backing in that goal. For example, the U.N. is up in arms about Iran developing nuclear tech...but it' s perfectly fine for Isreal to buy all the nuke submarines they feel they need.

I don' t trust Isreal any more than I trust Iran, quite frankly. It only took two soldiers to make them crush Lebanon...what little thing would Iran have to do to provoke a " preemptive" nuclear attack?

But we (the west) like Isreal...so that would be ok I guess.

You want the fighting to stop over there? Eliminate Isreal. Or at least stop backing them up on everything.

Hang on, what Israel did was wrong?!

Fuck you.

Al Qaeda launch strikes in the US, so America bombs the shit out of the Afgan desert then invades and occupies Iraq for the oil but claiming the country has WMD' s, capture' s and puts on trial the countries president for crimes pre-Gulf War 1.

The IRA bomb British cities and so the British technically invade and occupy Ireland to root out and eliminate the terrorist threat.

You think Israel went into Lebanon because of 2 Israeli soldiers?! You' re a moron. Israel have suffered attacks from neighbouring countries militia and terrorists for 50 years. They even built a huge fucking fence to try and keep the suicide bombers from blowing up fucking school buses. What the fuck do you want them to do?!

Israel snapped and laid waste to Lebanon and Hezbollah. They' ll probably re-occupy the west bank and Gaza Strip but i don' t forsee any Israeli soldiers being kidnapped or mass rocket attacks on Israeli cities any time soon.

I' m not saying what anyone has done to combat terrorism is right, but what Isreal did was just retarded and ineffectual.

They' ve been getting shelled for years, yeah. everybody knows that But bombing the shit out of Lebanon isn' t going to destroy Hezbolla or make Isreal any safer.

Fucking Hezbolla' s still in the streets passing out money and giving news interviews.

What, if anything, did Isreal accomplish? A temporary partial crippling of one terrorist group, and a lot of footage for Hezbolla recruiting videos.

I don' t see how that' s worth the thousand of deaths over the past months.

Hezbolla' s power comes from their ideas. As long as they can villify Isreal, they' ll have all the warm bodies they need. Until Isreal figures out a way to combat those ideas, they' ll never be safe. And you can' t kill and idea with a bomb, no matter how many suburbs you destroy.

Hang on, what Israel did was wrong?!

Fuck you.

Al Qaeda launch strikes in the US, so America bombs the shit out of the Afgan desert then invades and occupies Iraq for the oil but claiming the country has WMD' s, capture' s and puts on trial the countries president for crimes pre-Gulf War 1.

The IRA bomb British cities and so the British technically invade and occupy Ireland to root out and eliminate the terrorist threat.

You think Israel went into Lebanon because of 2 Israeli soldiers?! You' re a moron. Israel have suffered attacks from neighbouring countries militia and terrorists for 50 years. They even built a huge fucking fence to try and keep the suicide bombers from blowing up fucking school buses. What the fuck do you want them to do?!

Israel snapped and laid waste to Lebanon and Hezbollah. They' ll probably re-occupy the west bank and Gaza Strip but i don' t forsee any Israeli soldiers being kidnapped or mass rocket attacks on Israeli cities any time soon.

Well Israel aint no boyscout either! They just stupid fucks for believing that some one thousands of years ago actually promised them a land, and the UN gave it to them, out of pity of what happened in WWII. They should have been just like any other religion, among other people in other countries, instead we decided to give them land, kinda like what happened with the settlers in the US, taking land from tribes people!

Alot of this mess started because the west decided that the Jews could have country that wasnt theirs to give! would have been much more sensible to give them Antartica, im sure the penguins wouldnt mind the company!

The problem with Israel is that they fight fire with fire. They' re too aggressive. Their way of handling their relationship with their neighbouring countries is based on using military force.
I know it' s hard and that it will mean some losses but I think that the only way Israel can create a long term peace in the area is through diplomacy. It' s pretty hard to do that when you' ve got suicide bombers on one side and rocket launcher on the other but I can' t see any other way.
If you use force against force you have to do it all the way and completely eliminate every trace of your enemy. Otherwise you' ll just upset your enemy. Does anyone here think Israel can eliminate every single extremist in the area? And would you find that to be the right thing to do? Think of all the civilian losses that would mean.
Israel should be the " bigger man" and stop using force. Diplomacy is the only way.

Does anyone here think Israel can eliminate every single extremist in the area? And would you find that to be the right thing to do? Think of all the civilian losses that would mean.

History will repeat itself!

I see the predicament in all parts down there! There will never be peace! We should end their misery with nukes, and have the oil for ourselves!

Nekkid I totally agree.Those israeli fucks are the terrorists.

You don' t murder 1000 people for some criminal actions of others.Normal people don' t shoot 9 year old kids in the head for no reason (GAZA STRIP).Why, of all nations, it' s the Israeli people that created a palestinian GHETTO and made UN send neutral observers (that jews threw stones at later) to keep them from delivering Hlocaust 2: Ismael' s Revenge.

Terrorists are nasty motherfuckers , but they often come from places without hope.I won' t call guys, who took over russian theater - terrorists.What Russia does with their country and people... it makes them go the desperate way in the end.

ISRAELI should be nuked first actually - If one american kills 2 jews - is this enough reason to kill 1000 civilians in the US?

No,unless you think that " your kind" is better...and we know who' s lesson is that.

I won' t call guys, who took over russian theater - terrorists.What Russia does with their country and people... it makes them go the desperate way in the end.

They were terrorists without a doubt! You can be as angry and desperate as you want, but never, ever attack civilians! That' s what terrorism is! And that' s why Hizbollah are terrorists. They' ve attacked civilians. But that' s also why I believe Israel have done some terrorist actions. They too have attacked civilian targets.

You do know that people were trying to escape that theater and " terrorists" were helping them while their soldiers were shooting at their own people? (and posioned them with gas - they also didn' t say what kind of gas it was and medics couldn' t save those civilians)

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You do know that people were trying to escape that theater and " terrorists" were helping them while their soldiers were shooting at their own people? (and posioned them with gas - they also didn' t say what kind of gas it was and medics couldn' t save those civilians)

Bullshit. Those same kind of terrorists took over the school and killed women and children.

Hezbollah are a recognised terrorist organization just like Al Qaeda. It isn' t about the 2 kidnapped soldiers, it' s about the years of shelling on Israeli cities and Palestinian suicide bombers blowing up Israeli school buses.

ISRAEL FUCKING PULLED OUT OF THE GAZA STRIP, THEY FUCKING GAVE IT BACK -- but that didn' t stop fucked up suicide bombers from trying to get into Israel to kill civilians.

Israel going after Hezbollah is exactly the same as the US going after Al Qaeda except Israel has suffered these terrorist attacks for 50 years.

It' s Iran and Sudan that need fucking nuking as it' s those fuckers who supply the weapons used by Arab terrorists.

there are plenty of peace wanting individuals on all sides! Isreallis fuck up by destroying 10 blocks when the Palestinians shot one person because their land is in fact occupied!


Everyone should just live in peace :P

What really scares me are the nutcases in this forum who apparently wants to nuke everything they consider bad....
Too much videogames?

YES NUKES SOLVE EVERYTHING!




havent you ever played Starcraft?

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

What really scares me are the nutcases in this forum who apparently wants to nuke everything they consider bad....
Too much videogames?

Well i wasn' t being serious, but Iran especially needs tackling some way.

Yes Iran are the most dangerous, well okay North Korea too, because they arent letting us bully them, and it sucks! we need to stomp on them and show who' s in charge!!

(i mean it seriously)

It should be noted that NATO publically awknowledged that they were responsible for more than 1500 civilian deaths in Kosovo and many more civilian castalties.

Let' s all go to Japan and nuke the fuck out every other country :)

Hahahahahaha!!!!

why does a country need nukes? I can understand why America has them, but at least they are sensisble, you never know what those mad men in some far eastern countrys might do with one, imagine if a nuke was on one of those 9/11 planes?,

the world dosent need them.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

They should all just have theothetical nukes! Imaginary ones for use in threatening! the can boast about how many nukes they have, in order to keep others in line!

The U.S. is the only country that has ever used nukes in a war.
They attacked two civilian cities. That' s fucked up.

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

The U.S. is the only country that has ever used nukes in a war.
They attacked two civilian cities. That' s fucked up.

And boast about it.

yeah and they say we should be affraid of nations that are only developing it...

They can say that after they' ve disarmed their nukes.

Their only power is in those nukes and they know it - anyone else getting nukes is becoming equally powerful.Something they can' t stand.

The Us isnt a monster, they arent going to nuke London, just for the hell of it. They Nuked Japan becuase it was WW2, this effictivly ended ww2, I am not trying to justicify it, but desperate times calls for desperate measures.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Hiroshima had nothing to do with ending WW2 - WW2 ended in Berlin (and it' s hard to say US wasn' t responsible for a huge part of it)

I hate hezbollah.
Cowards they hide behind civilians and shoot their own rockets into civlians at haifa.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I hate MCDonalds their food made Byonce fat!!

You know, I think one nuke dropped in a less populated (or at least exclusively military) area would have proved our point in WWII just as effectively.

I really don' t know why the world tolerates our stance on nukes...we can have ' em, but nobody else can.

I say sanctions against the US until WE disarm.

Oh, but wait...when the US and its allies commit mass destruction we SAVE lives.
Right? Our bombs somehow have a world healing affect, so obviously we need to have as many as possible.

I' m not anti-american, I' m just a pacifist. I hope no extraterrestrials are watching us humans. War is so embarrasingly primative.

ANd you didn' t think millions of innocent germans died while they executed jews and retards,roman,handicapped and homosexuell people?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I really don' t know why the world tolerates our stance on nukes...we can have ' em, but nobody else can.

You mean countries seen as being a threat to America can' t have them.

I don' t get why people still call America a Super Power. Everybody and their uncle has nukes now.

Would you mind selling me one of yours? the thing is ...my dog ate mine :(

Even Sweden has,oh wait we havn' t nvm.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Sweden and Poland don' t have nukes?!


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4000+ in Europe but the UK only have about 100?! Even though 23% of the 4000 are IN the UK?! So we only own and control the 100 that are ours?!

France owns quite many i guess

Remember Russia has 6000 and USA 7000.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

USA has nukes all over the place, not just in the USA. We also have nuclear submarines carrying nuclear missles all over the place.

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ANd you didn' t think millions of innocent germans died while they executed jews and retards,roman,handicapped and homosexuell people?

That' s the part of the logic of war that irritates me the most. Country one causes a bunch of destruction so country two needs to cause enough distruction to discourage them.
Will human society ever evolve to the point where killing each other is never an acceptable solution?
It' s frustrating to me when I see the great things that mankind can do through medicine and technology, and then I see how the barbarism of war still prevails.

I don' t get why people still call America a Super Power. Everybody and their uncle has nukes now.

I think it has more to do with economic influence than it does with military power. Money is the basis for most of the world' s priorities.
That' s why we' re up-in-arms about Iran, but we' re treating N.Korea like a joke. Iran has the potiential to affect the world economy, so when they start talking crazy people listen.