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I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 04:36
That' s it.
I can' t take it anymore.
N3 avg score is under 65% now.

I have to take action against this bias in the gaming-media.

What is the point of a hack n slash game?

Is it supposed to have an open sandbox world not unlike GTA or Saints Row?

Is it supposed to " blend genres" crossing over into RPG land?

Is it supposed to have 16+ player online with rankings?

I think not.

Why does critics say that its very repetive and ask for something new in the genre of hackn' slash.

Have anyone here played any sports game?

Please tell me why i should pay 60-80 dollar each year for just diffrent names on each club.
Oh sometimes they might add in a new trix with a character,or fix the corners/freekicks etc.

OH WOW!!!

But give those titles another 8 or 9 will ya?

Wtf is wrong with the gaming media.?!

A lot of these reviewers has said that N3 is better then DW5 but then give it lower score anyway.

OKAY THAT MAKES SENSE.

And why the fukk those people who review N3 think we have a lame Dynasty warrior 5 out?

See the " 5" ?
Because it is selling well.

Why?

because gamers like the hackn' slash genre and to attack countless of mindless enemies.

Now in N3 you get 10th more enemies.

The graphic is also fucking amazing,can anyone here tell me a game that has this good control or graphic as N3 has?

I mean sure the graphic in some games are better,but then again was there 1000 of soldiers controlled in GRAW that charged you?

About the story.

How many who buy dynasty warrior and other hackn' slash games wants a deep complex story,well it would be good ofc,but come on...

Yes i can understand that the story become meaningless if you have 7 diffrent characters who change the story/ending with their own camapaign instead of 7 diffrent stories that blend into one campaign/story with one true end.

But still-come on


Gahhh im so mad...you betrayed me all


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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 04:47
maybe its just a bad game! Ninja Gaiden is hack and slash, and it isnt boring. As IGN said, its a better demo than it is a game!

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 04:51
No,Ninja gaiden is a action game.

If NG was just hack and slash there would have been no real hard skills about it.
As Hacknslash often let you face waves of enemies that dies often quite easy.

Diablo is another good ex of a great hacknslash game,but had rpg element.

In NG you can finish it because of very good reflexes.

In games like N3 its more about button mashing and watch cool animations and see those goblins fly.
And try to remember combos.

And also- IGN review guy is one voice.
Yes i know i' m just a voice also.

But for ex i talked with a friend who rent the game today,he was like crazy about it,giving it 9/10 saying omg i was about to miss out this killer apps thanks to critics.

My point is,many gamers see the value of games like these,but critics wanna find flaws in it because it hasn' t evolved.

But has FPS/sport games done that?

Hell no.

It' s shame that there isn' t one fukking guy who dares to speak up and say he likes the game.

gaming-media always share the same taste,thats why you should never listen to these fuckers- no hard feelings to kikizo though
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 04:59
Truly though, why cant you accept it might be a bad game? if you have to play 10 hours, or more of exactly the same, with bad voice acting, and a bad story? thats a bad game!

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:03
It' s like saying well this rpg had bad graphic or bad battle camera.
people often buy rpgs for the story/characters and the developent and building each character.

A hacknslash is all about letting lose and go crazy on the field of the battle.

I went berserk for ex at the late of the demo and killed 1000 goblins then i hunted down the last goblins with awesome combos,it' s just pure fun.

And i mean it' s deliver what you expected,the control and the enemies is fun to kill.
Go and play some of the demo and you see what i talk about.

NG had a lousy story,how many complain about that?

But in a mindless hackn' slash the story get attacked.

About the voice acting,can' t you have japanese voices on?

Atleast in N3 you can...
But nvm the voices are only heard in CGI and real time gameplay cut-scenes.But yes they are horrible.
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:05
quez GET OVER it................. the game is shit FULL STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:10
Allright nvm.
Im getting the game,you guys better check it out atleast.
Its not as bad as the critics tells you it is.
I really enjoying this game.
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:14
Good for you! i found it boring after 5 minutes, id rather not sit through an entire game of it! We all have differnet tastes, and a game that gets 6 is okay if you really like the genre.

Ill be having fun with Dead Rising instead, and in the near future Spinter Cell

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:19
Yeah.

However i may not get Dead rising...
Im not into these zombie games tbh...
But DR look so intresting and unique and i like the demo,i might get it.

But N3 is my most wanted now until EM.
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:22

EM.


EM?

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:28
Oh,Enchanted arms.

Got 34/40 in Famitsu.

N3 got btw 31/40...
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:31
You keep bitching about this score , but you haven' t even finished this game - you haven' t even played the retail version...you act like a fuckin idiot you know that right?

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:33
Please don' t call me a fucking idiot for not playing the retail version,when my friend work at www.gamingeye.com i played the retail version,however it was not much,i admit that.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:43
I' m calling you that, cause you keep flooding every thread with this " N3 scored to low" bullshit and now you' ve made a new thread about it,at the same time you don' t know shit about this game, cause you haven' t finished it.

It could be totally fucked up at the end or whatever - and if I remember correctly it was you, who said that a reviewer didn' t finish some game for his review (and missed some stuff that was there)
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 05:46
Nope.
If they say that the gameplay is last-gen and just hackn-slash like dynasty warrior but better.
It should atealst desvere score equal to DW5.

And as i said.
No sport game has been " next-gen" .
But this game they dare to clank on,as not " evolving with its time."
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 06:12
whatever :)

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 07:28
There' s no bias, the game genuinely sucks ass.

Seriously, it' s garbage.

When a good game comes out it gets good scores, for instance GRAW, DOA3, Oblivion - they get high scores because they are fun to play, N3 doesn' t get high scores because I' d rather repeatedly smash my testicles with a sledgehammer tham play N3 - it' s that simple.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 07:43
If you liked the game then why does it matter what other people thought of it?

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 07:54
Alright, so earlier yesterday after beating a couple of the characters storylines I would have agreed with you Quez...but as it stands after playing Aspharr' s I have realized that this game sucks for a few reasons...

Hit Collision is CRAP when it comes to fighting the bosses.

Block system, unless I am somehow losing sight of some miraculous attack feature with it...is really useless...a majority of the times the bosses will block your attacks and since you are in mid-attack you can' t block when they go to hit you.

Voice acting (which this seems to be one of the only things the reviewers touch on) sucks horribly...I mean, leave it japanese and put subtitles if you are attempting to butcher a game Phantagram!.

And the biggest kicker for me! As large as the levels are...no mid-battle save system! You get killed it is automatically back to the beginning it is bullshit that they didn' t even think to put in at least a checkpoint system.

But Aside from all the crap, I find myself enjoying it...it is repititive, but in a Dynasty Warriors way...also it is pretty amazing just to play it and watch the thousands of enemies' movements and the beauty of the battles.

~Alecrein

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There' s no bias, the game genuinely sucks ass.

Seriously, it' s garbage.

When a good game comes out it gets good scores, for instance GRAW, DOA3, Oblivion - they get high scores because they are fun to play, N3 doesn' t get high scores because I' d rather repeatedly smash my testicles with a sledgehammer tham play N3 - it' s that simple.


Did you just say DOA3 was good? No offense, but as much as people think that game was good I felt that the Ninja Team did the same shit they did with #2 it was a rehashed version of an original, not unlike Koei and Dynasty Warriors.
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 10:05
Wasn' t in Gametrailers who said in their review:


There are almost as many bugs in this game as there are Nights in the
title..


LMFAO at that... That made my week!
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 14:34
Well...
Gametrailer just made themself into my list then...
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 15:18
The game' s biggest flaw is it tried to do too much. It should' ve remained a hack and slash and should NOT have attempted to make so many different characters to appeal to different markets.

This could' ve just as easily been a hack and slash action adventure game like Ninja gaiden concentrating on just inphyy, but again they tried to do way too damn much.

There was absolutely no need to throw so many damn enemies on screen. Heavenly Sword manages to beat n3' s experience with less than 2% of the enemies n3 has on screen because the battles are more intimate and in your face. Nice group choreographed battles. N3 could' ve been so much more ultimately I think the language barrier between phantagram and mizuguchi' s team is what had a part in this game not being what it could' ve been.

Mizuguchi needs to get his team to design their own true 360 title.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 17:33
Oh come one,dont mention NG like chemical.

Do anyone here consider DMC a hackn' slash?

Nope.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 18:24
quez YOUR funny
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 18:29
Maybe the whole hack n' slash genre is bad... ?

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 18:33
Nah...
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 19:23
itz getting OLD now
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 20:06
N3 can only possibly be compared to Dynasty Warriors. Heavenly Sword, DMC, Ninja Gaiden etc are NOT hack ' n' slash games.

N3 has some interesting RPG-like features but the gameplay is VERY basic, even if there is a wide range of attack commands. Pressing the same 2 buttons over and over doesn' t really bother me as long as you can pull off a decent selection of moves by combining the two attack buttons with jump/dash and each other, ...which you can do.

The cutscenes are gorgeous, and the main characters look awesome but the game isn' t quite next-gen. The dialogue and voice acting is terrible and i don' t foresee much replay value. It' s a cool game but it appeals to specific tastes. I don' t think i' ll buy it as i don' t think it' s worth £50 (or even £40 if i buy online).

Dead Rising is a must for me, ...i' ve played the demo to death and love it. It' s like RE4 on comedy steroids! The Uzi kicks ass too!

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 20:55

N3 can only possibly be compared to Dynasty Warriors.


In other words, hack n' slash games suck! I' ve yet to play a great one.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 21:16
Well, i' m still going to play 99 Nights regardless of the bad press... Doesn' t mean
i' ll like it but hey....
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 21:36
I don' t like listening to other peoples reviews until I play myself that said if it' s good it does make me want to buy it more so thats a bit biased I guess....only 3days to go.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 21:42

If you liked the game then why does it matter what other people thought of it?


I couldn' t agree more with this statement, why not just except that not everyone likes the same thing as you?

And for the record I enjoy games like this and found the demo to be great fun in a mindless way. I' ll most probably end up purchasing it sometime down the line too.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 22:44
N3 Sucks, Get over it Quez and dont waste your money on it.
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 23:20
Nope,im getting it.
Famitsu gaved it 8/10.
And the west critics trahsed it saying it wasn' t a next gen title because of the gameplay.
Or that you kill wave after wave off enmeies.


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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 23:23

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL
Famitsu gaved it 8/10.


I could quote you if you want to but... haven' t you earlier expressed extreme hatred towards Famitsu, due to weird reviews and stupid expectations, and said that you' ll never respect them again?
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 23:31
I did.

So when a magazine like that which hates xbox and 360 gives N3 8/10 you know they really feelt that way.

If you don' t like hackn' slash games say so,don' t trash the game in a review-basically saying that hackn-slash games sucks.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 23:33
The great N3 crusade huh?

Anyway, I' ll confess. I got the game and I enjoy it a LOT.

One of the problems I see around is that when reviewing, reviewers make a lot of assumptions, and players in the ' net value reviewer opinion way too much. Tastes also vary a lot.

Anyway, as I' ve been playing N3 since I got it I' ve not touched other titles. Dead Rising' s supposed to be so much better according to every review written yet it' s collecting dust on my shelf. Not that it' s a bad game, but I enjoy playing N3 more than I do DR. Some in this topic have talked about " top" titles such as GRAW (**yawn**) being an example of a truly good game. Yea, I got GRAW. I played it, never on a stretch longer than an hour and a half at a time and I beat it after about 2 months. Boring title, but I should have known better since I don' t care for modern military titles but hey the reviewers were salivating so much about it so I had to get it!

Anyway, some have mentioned N3' s problems already. Bad voice acting (and it is truly hideous - is Inphyy a 17 year old girl or an 8 year old boy with constipation?), repetitive gameplay (course just about every game involves repeating the same gameplay through its entirety; they just get progressively harder if they' re well developed), and hit detection? I put a question mark on that because I haven' t really experienced it. It was mentioned that some bosses just don' t react that much to being hit, but it happens on the player characters as well. Anyway, those little moments of invulnerability are no different than the same in fighting titles and some other action games; I know because I' ve known to exploit those moments to my advantage and to avoid attacking foes when they' re invulnerable. Definitely not a new concept to action games - have we already forgotten those gameplay basics?

Anyway, repetitive gameplay or not, I' ve had a heck of a time sending huge armies flying all over the place. If you thought it' d be cool to be Sauron from the opening in the Fellowship of the Ring you' ll have a blast with N3. If not, well, yea I can see why you' d be bored by it. But honestly I haven' t been as gleefully amused by a game as this in a very long time - those orb sparks are really something. And hey, once you get past the Inphyy campaign the game gets much, much better.

Anyway, each kind of player has likes and dislikes. I love N3 - lots of fun. Reviewers don' t, too bad. It just feels out of whack that things are like Quez mentioned where a new sports title that just changes a roster has a much higher overall scoring than a title that is simply fun but what the heck. Listening to reviewers got me to buy GRAW and I really didn' t like it so there! :p

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 22, 2006 23:43

Please tell me why i should pay 60-80 dollar each year for just diffrent names on each club.
Oh sometimes they might add in a new trix with a character,or fix the corners/freekicks etc.


Man, it took Quez' s completely out of control rant on N3 to get me out of hiding, but this statement above has echoed my sentiments on sports games for years. I have friends who every year insist on buying the new madden, NBA and NHL games. why? Cause EA is smarter than them and makes them think they need them. No other reason I can see.

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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 23, 2006 00:37


ORIGINAL: mxpx182

Man, it took Quez' s completely out of control rant on N3 to get me out of hiding, but this statement above has echoed my sentiments on sports games for years. I have friends who every year insist on buying the new madden, NBA and NHL games. why? Cause EA is smarter than them and makes them think they need them. No other reason I can see.


Hey... Why are you hiding?
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RE: I' m pissed off!! N3 need better score! - Aug 23, 2006 01:52
I know why He was Hideing, After that Incident, who could continue liveing normally?

but now he is back, and with a Vengance.
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