What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan?

ADAM!!!! What is your take on 360 in Japan?!

ORIGINAL: mastachefbkw
it didnt have a dvd player.

The xbox1 did and it didnt exactly do too well tho! The PS2 killed the DC with hype and timing alone.

If you were a developer and you had to choose a platform to release a title onto which would take you 2 years to develop would you:

a). Release it onto a 2 year old console (which would be end of life in 4 years)

b). Wait for the shiny new PS2.

Anyways... ADAM!!!

The xbox1 did and it didnt exactly do too well tho! The PS2 killed the DC with hype and timing alone.

The Dreamcast struggled in Japan way before the PS2 was announced
Japan has shown that is can support more than one console, you just have to give them a good reason to

the DC failed because it didnt have a dvd player.

Yet the Dreamcast without a DVD player did WAYYYYYYYYYYYY better in sales on a weekly basis than both the Xbox and Xbox360 COMBINED, and both of them have DVD players

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Terry when will you change the score for N3?

It' s not that i really care,but 90% of the members on this site want it to have 8/10 or 9/10,NOW.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

had like miniture dolls of kasumi, ayane, tina...well all the doa girls I think...is that obsessive do you think?.

...I have Spawn and Ryu from strret fighter...am I obsessed? :)

I like Kasumi..a lot :)

I like Kasumi..a lot :)

And all this time, I had you down as polish..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

For a human being I am extremely polished :)

Polish people can' t behave when watching fotball.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

We can' t play football either

You should see those crazy british fanatics watching their favourite game :)

We had a few Polish people over to work on our House the last day.

Its good to have land.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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We had a few Polish people over to work on our House the last day.

Its good to have land.

One of my friends is polish and I swear the guy is always on a high I worry sometimes though cos iv' e never actually seen him sad or upset....even when his gran died he looked happy...

ORIGINAL: dasher232

One of my friends is polish and I swear the guy is always on a high I worry sometimes though cos iv' e never actually seen him sad or upset....even when his gran died he looked happy...

Could he have done it?

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

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ORIGINAL: dasher232

One of my friends is polish and I swear the guy is always on a high I worry sometimes though cos iv' e never actually seen him sad or upset....even when his gran died he looked happy...

Could he have done it?

Lol nah she had cancer or something uncureable anyway.

what a thread it has become :)

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

what a thread it has become :)

I know it seems to be the pattern these days.

ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard

The Dreamcast struggled in Japan way before the PS2 was announced
Japan has shown that is can support more than one console, you just have to give them a good reason to

Trouble yes, but initial sales were still pretty strong, but I remember on launch in the UK 80% of the gaming public comming out with negative or neutral comments because they knew there was " something" comming from Sony, but still we sold and sold them till we had none left!

Mind you at the time I was working part time in GAME while finishing UNi - I won a sealed DC from SEGA themselves for fulfilling the most preorders in the country!

In fact, I was drumming up business running my import DC in the window, and even photoshopping together my own POS... dear god I was passionate about my games then... I think it was 235 I pre ordered, with next nearest having 50 or so.

We held a party at midnight with drinks, and an open challenge to me on Soul Calibur... i never lost a match, but a good time was had by all. It was defo a happy launch!!

It' s quite funny, even though we had PS2 devkits in the studio at the time we all crowded into the games lounge for the latest Jap DC titles to thrash. I remember a comment of a colleague so clearly..

" This is a great little console, a really good effort. But we are not worried in the slightest (Sony), when we launch everyone will turn to us and it will die... They wont try again..."

That colleague is now a producer at EA Vancouver, so he must have been doing some things right! (dammit where did I go wrong!?! - Oh yeah, moving house and country every few years, was no longer up my street!

Still, I' m planning an understated return to the industry after my programme has established its roots as one of the best courses in the Uni...

Speaking of Uni - Maj - are you due any results? I' m marking re-sits at the mo!

Not real results. I have no exams per say as it' s a BA not a BSC, but i had 2 timed assessments and a presentation to do. The rest was coursework and luckily i passed all of my modules bar 3D modelling (because i suck and didn' t finish my project). But i really have to concentrate this year because my time off the year previous really affected my work ethic for the 2005/2006 term.

I probably spent more time last year making contacts and trying to get a job than i did working which has turned out to be a double edged sword in that while i now know people, i dont know them well enough to be able to rely on them for anything (with one or two exceptions) and my work suffered as a result of my time travelling and skipping lectures to attend meetings.

I' ve always maintained that this isn' t the course for me but it' ll get me where i want to go and so i' m sticking to it.

The funny thing is that i' ve spent so much time bothering people and going to see people in the UK, and yet i' m still planning on moving to Canada. Sometimes i really don' t know what i' m doing and other times everything seems clear as day.

Who knows, perhaps games journalism would suit me better.



How many students will you have this year?!

Trouble yes, but initial sales were still pretty strong, but I remember on launch in the UK 80% of the gaming public comming out with negative or neutral comments because they knew there was " something" comming from Sony, but still we sold and sold them till we had none left!

It depends on what territory you' re talking about.. The Dreamcast sold around 160,000 units at launch in Japan. The massive shortage REALLY hurt them. By comparison the Sega Saturn absolutely DESTROYED the Dreamcast in terms of weekly sales performance in Japan.

The Dreamcast sold record breaking numbers at launch in the U.S. AND it took the U.S. several WEEKS to sell 1 million units whereas it took Japan over 1 YEAR to do the same.

I have no idea what the initial launch figures were for the Dreamcast in the UK, but when all was said and done, I recall it did about as well as the Saturn did there.

Terry when will you change the score for N3?

If I had the power to change the score, I would LOWER it. Be happy with the 4.0 it got, LOL

*runs*

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Do you guys have any idea what the games on 360 looks like in Japan? If I was Japanese and spoke only Japanese i would never buy a 360. Many of the cool westernized games that we get don' t exist in Japanese. And when they do get them its always late.

Small quibble. Does 360 looks the most Japanese now? It' s going for an almost iPod-ish ' minimalist-circly' look. It' s a sleek white color, very Zen-ish. I can see it fitting quite all right in most Japanese home stylings.

Wii is a bit boring, but that Wiimote gives the Japanese all that eccentric, innovative, wackiness they want.

Now, PS3. It' s a grill. Buy it in silver and people think it' s a coat steamer. Its roundish look makes it seem more prone to falling and killing people than the original Xbox. Small children beware.

If basing just plainly on looks, I' d say PS3 is REALLY not going to appeal to Japanese. The thing going for it is really the branding, plus the Sony company name.

PS: I' m shocked that Xboxes are still being sold in Japan o_0

Do you guys have any idea what the games on 360 looks like in Japan?

Pretty bad actually. The majority of Japan specific titles " look" terrible. They' ve got Sengoku Musou 2, Bomberman Act: Zero (will be released worldwide), Shutokou Battle X, Zega Pain XOR, Every Party, Love Football, Spectral Force 3, Wrestle Kingdom, Tetris: The Grand Master, Zoids Infinity EX Neo, and Mahjong and Sudoku games. Then there are the games like N3 and Bullet Witch that will be released worldwide.

They do have the majority of sports releases and games like NFS:MW, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, DoA4, Kameo, PDZ and a handful of other titles we already have. They don' t however have Dead Rising yet which i find really strange and they' ve been crying out for a localized version of Oblivion and Microsoft have ignored them.

I think Japan is a lost cause for Microsoft, ...i think Wii will be the console of choice there and that PS3 will sell comparable numbers. Microsoft has very little to offer and even the large roster of Japanese developed titles that will be developed for 360 won' t help things much. Xbox had some awesome Japanese titles; DoA3/U, Ninja Gaiden/Black, Otogi/2, Phantom Dust etc and yet they didn' t shift console like you' d expect.

Blue Dragon will easily sell 600,000-800,000 Xbox 360s in japan between now and december 07 (I' m serious too)

Does anyone have any idea what Okamoto' s secret 360 title is? I' m guessing.. given how secretive he' s being about it that it could be really incredible.

Does anyone even know what Tri-Ace' s secret 360 rpg looks like?

Mark my words that Square Enix has surprises in store for the Xbox 360 they will not ignore capcom' s success on the 360 without attempting to challenge capcom in a 360 market that will have 15+ million users come june of next year.

X06? Microsoft will have tons of surprises :D

Oblivion is also out in Jpn,or atleast it' s not region coded.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I think that it' s Japan who should be worried , not MS - soon Japan will stop being the world' s capital of gaming and that' s only because they blindly support their domestic products.

It may not happen this gen , but it will eventually - they aren' t as important as they used to be.

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

I think that it' s Japan who should be worried , not MS - soon Japan will stop being the world' s capital of gaming and that' s only because they blindly support their domestic products.

It may not happen this gen , but it will eventually - they aren' t as important as they used to be.

Agreed, even Kojma has realised it, it is also the reason SEGA came out with
a westernised Sonic game (SHadow the c*ckhog).. Capcom have also stated that
Resident EVil 5 will only be released on the 360 in America and Europe, but not
Japan...

Feel sorry for all those people in Japan that bought a 360, they' ll be missing out..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.