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Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 16:19
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11539/Project-Offset-Gets-Publisher-Xbox-360-Version-Confirmed/


Last night, Offset Software updated the news section of the Project Offset website, revealing that they have secured a " major" publisher for their fantasy first-person shooter. Travis Stringer, co-founder and lead artist on Project Offset, posted the following message:

Finally all moved in! We are looking for talented programmers and artists to join our team. We are now backed by a major publisher but will not be disclosing the details just yet. Visit our jobs page for more information on available positions.

If you go to the jobs page, you' ll find out that Offset Software is looking for an Xbox 360 Programmer whose primary responsibility will be to " handle porting, maintaining, and optimizing the codebase for the Xbox 360." That pretty much confirms an Xbox 360 edition of the game in addition to the PC, where the company has it roots.

It doesn' t take the IQ of Einstein to put together " major" publisher and Xbox 360 to start thinking that either EA, Ubisoft or Activision has signed an agreement with Offset Software to publish Project Offset. Or could it be that Microsoft Game Studios is on board and we are just a few weeks away (X06) from a public announcement?

We' ll have more on Project Offset as it develops.


Pretty big news. Discuss!

For those who don' t know about it:
http://www.projectoffset.com/
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 17:18
Why does it have to be an FPS??!

I switched off as soon as I saw that..

An FPS set in a fantasy world??!!

What the hell are M$ playing at?
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 19:47
Most FPS have Sci-Fi settings that are just as unrealistic as a fantasy setting, I dont see what the problem is. Shooting magic from your ass is about as realistic as gunning through demons and aliens.

The setting is good, Im sick of all the sci-fi and world war 2 FPS.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 20:01
Oblivion was essentially a FPS. Sure it had the option for third person, but it was clear which perspective it was designed for. You shot arrows and various magic ...First Person Sorcery?

Either way Im still very unsure as to what this game is gonna be. There' s sword play and what not involved so I dont expect to see a shotgun or anything. Theres a video on the site that I can' t load right now maybe that will give a better idea.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 20:39
So it should just be FP instead of an FPS... Ok, so if it' s more like
Oblivion, that' s ok I suppose..
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 21:53
FPP (first person perspective) is an acronym that probably more accurately describes it. Not sure why they use FPS, perhaps because it' s a familiar term.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 22:06
...somebody should make all next-gen game developers take an oath along the lines of:

" I solemnly swear, in the name of all things programmed and geekish, to keep my mouth shut about my project until we have something worthwhile to show. ....like a near complete game for example.

May we loose all our funding and the game be completely ignored by gamers should we dare to break this oath"
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 22:18

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...somebody should make all next-gen game developers take an oath along the lines of:

" I solemnly swear, in the name of all things programmed and geekish, to keep my mouth shut about my project until we have something worthwhile to show. ....like a near complete game for example.

May we loose all our funding and the game be completely ignored by gamers should we dare to break this oath"


Actually, what these guys have shown is very worthwhile. Maybe not worthwhile from a game completion aspect, but from a technological, conceptual and design perspective they' ve really done well. Perhaps you havn' t been following the project much.

This amazing engine that puts pretty much every other game engine out there to shame. It was made by only three people working out of an apartment with a tiny budget budget. One person programmed the engine for a year and a half, the other two were artists. At the end they put together those two sneak peek videos you can download off the website. That' s mighty impressive if you ask me. It showed everyone that amazing things still can be created by small teams. Gradually the team has expanded to around 19 members.

If you think that what they' ve shown isn' t worthwhile, then your perception of reality is screwed.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 22:23
19 members... I have 7... Hmmm.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 13, 2006 22:32

If you think that what they' ve shown isn' t worthwhile, then your perception of reality is screwed.


...if that' s what you call being mostly concerned with playing games, then i' m guilty as charged.......
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 07:16
just to clear thigs up - FPP - is a good description of any game with first person (ala DOOM) view.

FPS means First Person SHOOTER , so I wouldn' t call oblivion that - it' s an RPG with FPP view :)

Metroid was caled FPA - First Person Adventure (like MYST and so on)

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 08:32
If you watch the trailers of the game they cearly say its a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, set in a fantasy world. No it is not an adventure, its a FPS in a fantasy setting, no it is not an rpg, it is a FPS in a fantasy setting.

Get over it.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 09:20

FPS means First Person SHOOTER , so I wouldn' t call oblivion that - it' s an RPG with FPP view :)


But you were able to shoot arrows and various magic elements like shown in Offset as well as sword play which both have. Another thing Oblvion also had a 3r dperson perspective and shown in the of the trailers Offset did as well.

So with shooting a various things, sword play, and a 3rd person perspective, whouldnt you be able to call either one a FPS. Of course Oblvion was an RPG overall. I' m just saying technically it also had some shooter elements.

Also when Offset was very first announced it was mentioned to have a bit of RPG element within it.

I have no idea what Im trying to prove, tho I think my basic point was made...maybe...

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 19:56

But you were able to shoot arrows and various magic elements like shown in Offset as well as sword play which both have. Another thing Oblvion also had a 3r dperson perspective and shown in the of the trailers Offset did as well.


FPS is a genre that has Half life 2 , HAlo,PErfect Dark 64, Quake and others.

It' s like calling any 2D Zelda game a vertical Shooter , cause it' s got a top-down view and you can shoot with your bow.

That' s just stupid.

Project offset seems to be a shooter - it has shooting things and above all the whole game is based on typical FPS goals - " kill them and go further" .

How can someone in 21 century call himself a gamer and not know what FPS is?

...come on

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 19:59

Metroid was caled FPA - First Person Adventure (like MYST and so on)


cough cough! its an FPS! People only want to call it an FPA so they can say that they dislike FPS!

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:05
It think it' s like this:
FPS - If shooting is the main attraction of the game
FPP - Any type of game in first person view
FPA - Adventure/RPG game in first person view

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:31

cough cough! its an FPS! People only want to call it an FPA so they can say that they dislike FPS!


this game wasn' t based on precision shooting - you had a lock on feature.You had to solve puzzles all the time.I think Metroid is a 100% justified FPA game.

I love FPShooters though.

It seems to me like you haven' t played that much of Metroid if you haven' t seen it' s adventure aspect.It' s what turns so many people off.

First Person Adventure is the way Shigeru described Metroid so that people would realise it' s not your everyday shooter.

It doesn' t matter what the view perspective is - some games are shooters , some RPGs and others are adventure games.You wouldn' t be wrong if you called Metroid an Action-Adventure title.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:35
Well maybe its simply because i dont like the title FPA, i think its silly. Especillay in Metriod when all you do is shooting!

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:37
Shooting is one of the things you do but the exploration, upgrading and puzzles are even more important to the game as a whole even though there' s constant shooting. So it' s not a shooter in any way because that' s not the main attraction. It' s an adventure game since it has a little of everything in a nice combinaiton.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:39
You explore on mostly all other FPS games, instead up upgrading in other games you just pick up new items! And most even have the odd puzzle! does that make Doom 3, per say a FPA

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:42
Have you played Metroid Prime? If you have then you should know that the whole approach to exploring and upgrading is very different than in other games. If you don' t realise that then you have no idea of what you' re playing.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:43
I have played half of Metroid Prime for GC, and found it to be an annoying game, so ofcourse i havent bothered with Echoes, though i have been tempted because i like the premise!

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:45
If you were expecting an action shooter, then I understand why you were disappointed.
Were you expecting an action shooter?

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 14, 2006 20:48
I was expecting a fun game! i dont care what genre it is! I was expecting an action shooter, but discovering it wasnt quite the standard game, it simply wasnt fun enough to keep playing! And i found the level design Horrid, back tracking and all!

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 00:20

FPS is a genre that has Half life 2 , HAlo,PErfect Dark 64, Quake and others.

It' s like calling any 2D Zelda game a vertical Shooter , cause it' s got a top-down view and you can shoot with your bow.

That' s just stupid.

Project offset seems to be a shooter - it has shooting things and above all the whole game is based on typical FPS goals - " kill them and go further" .

How can someone in 21 century call himself a gamer and not know what FPS is?

...come on


This is coming from somone who hasnt even played the damn game...Yes I know it was an RPG. Im saying tho, depending on how you played it, it too could fall under FPS. During one play thru I spent a good portion with just a bow and arrow SHOOTING anything deemed worthy to die.

Oblivion is a very mixed bag of multiple genres with RPG being the main focus. Regardless of its main genre it too had shooter elements. The game couldve been played intirely focused on stealth. It couldve been played in 3rd person the whole time. Couldve been played in hack and slash style. It coudlve been played as a friggin horticulture simulator.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 00:39

This is coming from somone who hasnt even played the damn game...


Now that' s pretty retarded (- not as much as " Oblivion is an FPS" though) to say.

Why? cause everyone and their mother knows that oblivion is an RPG.It' s that simple.


it too could fall under FPS. During one play thru I spent a good portion with just a bow and arrow SHOOTING anything deemed worthy to die.


Honestly man explaining something like that to you is almost embarrasing.Ask bethesda why they never said that Oblivion is an FPS game...


Oblivion is a very mixed bag of multiple genres with RPG being the main focus.


I don' t need to play it to know about it - it doesn' t change anything - it' s an RPG.IT IS NOT A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER.

Zelda has a fishing minigame yet noone calls it a fishing sim.

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 00:43
I agree with Gangsta. You have to look at what the game is focusing the most on. Oblivion has stuff from everything but the focus is on quests and stuff like that.
It' s an RPG in first person perspective. If not that, then it' s a FWS = fantasy world simulator

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 00:49

Oblivion is a very mixed bag of multiple genres with RPG being the main focus.

Do you guys just skim thru posts picking out only sections you can argue against?

I KNOW IT IS NOT A FPS. I SAID IT COULD FALL UNDER THE CATAGORY WITH SOME FPS ELEMENTS. AND IN AN INTERVIEW WHICH I WILL SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME LOOKING FOR BETHESDA SAID THIS AS WELL.

F-P-S Elements
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 00:50
Well, if RPG is the main focus then it' s an RPG. Simple. Wouldn' t you agree?

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:00
Hmm still looking for the words from Bethesda themselves, but heres a review that says it in my view as well.
Scroll down to pushing the envelope part fo the review.

And here' s a random quote from another review or interview, I dunno which..

Furthermore, the combat system has been superbly refined. In Morrowind, whether you actually hit something is dependant on the roll of the dice, and while those dice still have some bearing in Oblivion, the game feels more like a first person shooter than an RPG.


Back to my pointless quest to prove that Oblvion could fall under the title of FPS dependant on how you play it as said from Bethesda themselves! Besides what the hell else should I do during thsi downtime at work...
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:03
Hey, do you like that fishing game... uh... I think it' s called Zelda? Yeah, a great fishing game indeed

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:06
I think Zelda stinks..

360' s gonna have EVERYTHING leagues above Zelda TP.. Zelda TP is overhyped
and ready to bomb upon release date.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:12
Yeah PGR3 has FPS elements - like FPP view (called cockipt view).

It really is that simple - no matter what elements your game has - it' s the main theme that makes it what it is.

I wouldn' t argue about stupid GTA games - it' s hard to classify San Andreas as something concrete , but if you have trouble understanding that there' s no way anyone will call oblivion an FPS , then you probably have just as much trouble figuring out what' s your sex.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:12

Hey, do you like that fishing game... uh... I think it' s called Zelda? Yeah, a great fishing game indeed

Oh but could you complete the game on mere fishing like you could complete Oblivion playing it as a FPS?


Yeah PGR3 has FPS elements - like FPP view (called cockipt view)


Since when am I saying the perspecitve is why i think it falls under FPS among others? I' m saying if played with only the bow and arrow as well as projectile spells the game could essentially be played as a FPS form beginning to end.



On a side note gangsta, if you are trying to prove your reasoning, resorting to insults certainly isnt the best of methods. Such things debunk your thoughts as it drops you down to a childish and immature level.

If you can' t prove your point in a clean matter then obviously you have no real point to make.
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:15
GTA is the devils fruit that gamers take for their quick on hour fix of
violence.

My friend was over playing the demo that is the GTA clone, and even
after slating it so much before he tried it, he played it and thought it was fun
but that' s a given considering games of this genre to the more sophisticated
gamer are going to be fun for about an hour..
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:15
you could finish oblivion without typical RPG dialogs with people?

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:16
Can you complete Oblivion without going through anything that resembles quests or following a story? Without level ups? Without playing a certain role while playing the game?
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:16


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you could finish oblivion without typical RPG dialogs with people?


Who did that? I want the name of his milk man and who bakes his bread..
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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:20
I wonder what' s more pointless ...not funny jokes like this one:


Who did that? I want the name of his milk man and who bakes his bread..


Or ignorance in pure form (that subjects call educated opinions)


I think Zelda stinks..

360' s gonna have EVERYTHING leagues above Zelda TP.. Zelda TP is overhyped
and ready to bomb upon release date.


There' s a cure for that - less church , more life

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RE: Project Offset - 360 bound - Aug 15, 2006 01:23
I' m very confused right now

I' m scared...

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