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Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:23
Well Mark Reins ' BIG' Gears announcement ended up being the games release date which just happens to be days before PS3 is launched in each territory.

What kind of effect will the game have on Sony' s sales this holiday?!

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:26
Not much. All PS3' s will be sold. To few PS3' s to go around.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:28
Ok, then what kind of effect will Gears and 360 have on PS3 sales into March next year when Halo 3 will be released?!
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:35
I think Gears of War is the kind of game everyone expects the 360 to have, an action AAA title.
The people who have already decided to buy a PS3 will not care about GoW since you probably buy the PS3 for the japanese AAA titles. Especially early adopters, who honestly must be consisting of a large amount of Sony fanboys.
GoW might persuade the people who haven' t decided yet into buying a 360 though. That will affect future sales of the PS3. PS3 units that these people would' ve bought will simply not be sold since GoW convinced them buy the 360.
I think the game won' t affect the PS3 sales but it might be the thing that gets some people who have thought of buying a 360 to finally do it. Like me.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:36
Gears is gonna be a huge seller. I' m sure the PS3 will sell out. I' m going to hopefully buy both. I' ll be buying the PS3 to sell it on Ebay though. I' m expecting to make around $400 in profit.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:38
Rampage, you haven' t posted anything since may... have you been in a coma or something?

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:45
I don' t think on it' s own it will do much to shake the sony camp. I think it' s just really meant along with the coming accessories to make the 360 look a bit more rejuvinated and fresh with the arrival of the competition.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 06:55
..i' m hoping there will be some sort of ultra cool bundle deal around PS3' s launch, like GOW + Dead Rising + remote, sold at the normal premium price, although i really had my heart set on a flat-out price drop...
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:00
I would like a hd-dvd add-on added to the above.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:01
On the contrary, i think Gears WILL have a direct effect on Sony' s sales, especially in Europe.

All PS3' swill be pre-sold before release, that' s definate, but Europe is looking like it' s only going to get seed quantities anyway whereas the US and Japan will get " proper" launches.

Sony have said that titles like Heavenly Sword, Eye Toy and Warhawk (?) will miss day one and will be released in the " launch window" which will end when the fiscal year ends (April 1st).

Taking that into account and bearing in mind that Sony are going to end up with the same kind of stock shortage problems that Microsoft had, hell maybe even as bad as the PS2 launch, ...and looking at the large number of 2nd generation 360 titles that will be released in that time (including Halo 3), people thinking about buying a PS3 or those that haven' t had their pre-order met will obviously take a look and see what' s avaiable on 360.

There could be factors that we don' t know about yet, like PS3 games costing more than 360' s or 360 getting a price drop that would have a knock on effect too, but Microsoft are putting Gears up against PS3 for a reason.

All you have to do is look at how well Halo 2 performed (1.5 million pre-orders, 2.4 million copies sold in its first 24 hours on store shelve, 7 million copies sold worldwide after exactly 1 year) and the effect it had on the slimline PS2' s launch. I definately wouldn' t underestimate highly anticipated software like Gears or Halo, even if PS3' s will be pre-sold.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:13
I sincerely hope that ' ' other factors' ' that we don' t know of yet are also in the works to counter sony. Otherwise Gears on it' s own will have a time fending them off despite the price. Halo is an industry gem and has proven and lived up to it' s hype at the time. If gears manages to deliver then word will spread like wildfire and will help microsoft during those five days.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:37
Microsoft will definately have a tons of stuff up it' s sleeve.


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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:40
Majik i watch a interview with some guy asking these gamerlife people questions,he speaks like you,is it You?
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:53
I don' t think the PS3 will be as effected as much as GOW. PS3 will be sold out no matter what. PS3 will be even more sparce then the 360 was and the demand will be just as high. Anyone who thinks the ps3 won' t be sold out must be on drugs. I' m sure many PS3 buyers are also 360 owners and if I was to get a ps3 (I won' t) I wouold hold off from buying GOW. By the time I get around to buying GOW I might have beaten it already (rental) and might have lost intrest in favor of other games. If I owned both a PS3 and 360 there will be so many games next Holiday season that even a blockbuster like GOW could be skipped.

At the same time even if people with both PS3 and 360 didn' t buy GOW in November they will eventually (if they were to buy it at all in the first place). So in the long term I don' t see how the November launch will effect either PS3 or GOW.

Still I think it' s cool that the publisher of GOW have the guts to launch against PS3, I bet MS is happy. Sure GOW isn' t Halo 3 but they could do worse.

Anyways out of curiosity does anyone plan on getting GOW? Are you getting a PS3 at launch, have your plans for either changed?

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 07:57

Anyways out of curiosity does anyone plan on getting GOW? Are you getting a PS3 at launch, have your plans for either changed?


Gears is a definate but as i' ve been saying for months now i' m waiting until TGS to see what Sony will have at launch.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:00
thank you so much for making note of how halo 2 had an effect on the ps2 slimline sales, the other comment I would like to make is if can all remember back to when xbox was relativeley new and halo 1 came out. Some of you may disagree but that game had a huge factor into how many xbox units were sold, people bought the xbox for the sole purpose of playing halo.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:01
Yes,the reason why i bought halo was not because i seen some review,but because everyone was talking about it in my town,why is tahT?
cause everyone loved it.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:02
that' s exactly what I' m trying to say, people bought an xbox to play halo and people will buy the 360 to play GoW

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:07


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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:07
I think that right now Gears is more anticipated than Halo 2 was.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:09


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I think that right now Gears is more anticipated than Halo 2 was.


Thats what i' m worried about....

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:10
now im honest.not making this up,but from all my 89 people on F list everyone is getting GoW...
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:11
I think that nothing will stop PS3 at first.Gears of War - this game is well known to hardcore gamers mostly - Halo 2 was a mainstream thing (after huge and loud succes of H1)

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:13
I think a lot of people will get it I just hope everyone comes out as happy if not moreso as when halo was around.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:19

I think that nothing will stop PS3 at first.Gears of War - this game is well known to hardcore gamers mostly - Halo 2 was a mainstream thing (after huge and loud succes of H1)


True but I think most gamers that own a 360 at this time are mostly hardcore, the hardcore gamers are always the first to buy the consoles. I think the market for potential PS3 owners and potential GOW owners are going to overlap but both are going to be so big that everyone is going to have them both anyways.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:25
A game release is not going to put a dent into sony' s launch, i believe even microsoft said something to this effect themselves.

Still it is a good strategy in that those who couldn' t get a ps3 might think... well crap this game looks the Sh!t and im not gonna be getting a ps3 anytime soon... besides come xmas ps3 will have better stuff and maybe a more attractive price tag, so screw ps3 for a while, 360 and GoW here i come, and reserve me a copy of halo 3 while your at it...
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:36


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True but I think most gamers that own a 360 at this time are mostly hardcore, the hardcore gamers are always the first to buy the consoles.


I highly disagree with that statement. I have a ton of friends that only play games once or twice a week that bought the system. My two new roomates both have 360s and they definately aren' t hardcore gamers. Yes... there are three 360s in my apartment, lol. It gets crazy with Ghost Recon multiplayer. If anyone wants to play on Live with me send me a message. Gamertag is Rampage99 and I play almost every night.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:39
Regardless of how GoW affects any sales it' s still a bitch slap in the faces of those who will buy a PS3.
The game shows that the 360 is a great console. It works as a reminder that Microsoft is still going strong and I think that it will help Microsofts image a lot to have a great game released near the PS3 launch.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:43
On the contrary, in stores if they have both consoles side-by-side, the PS3
playing WarHawk, and the 360 playing GoW, the question consumers will ask
will be:

" Is that coming out on PS3?"

Given the fact that Gears will look marginally grander than most of the initial
PS3 software, you may find that it does or may dent PS3 sales...

Sony made a mistake by not including major titles on launch, Heavenly Sword
would have been so welcome, and along side Gears, may persuade many a gamer..
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:45
Heavenly Sword should have definately been a launch title. The game was pretty damn awesome at E3.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:47
You see I thought that heavenly sword would have been there as a launch title to hold off but it seems like now they' re resting their hopes in warhawk, fatal inertia and the newly spruced up gran turismo. Saying that though sony probably have their own things to come.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:51
If anyone buys Gran Tourismo HD I' ll slap them. It' s the PS2 game in High Def... freaking retarded. People actually stood in line to play it at E3 which was probably the saddest thing I saw at the show.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 08:55


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If anyone buys Gran Tourismo HD I' ll slap them. It' s the PS2 game in High Def... freaking retarded. People actually stood in line to play it at E3 which was probably the saddest thing I saw at the show.


Thats what I don' t get...but there are people who would buy it.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 09:24
Well in the UK at least Gears there will be Gears demo pods in Gamestation from just before launch right up to Christmas. We did somthing similar with Halo 2 when that came out and the amount of interest that is generated seeing a game running on the machine in the store is unbelievable.

Y' know, Gears has already been on MTV, it' s all over the internet and in the magazines. It' s already becoming mainstream and that' ll only increase from here on out. It' s Microsoft' s biggest title this holiday and they will certainly be putting some huge money into getting it noticed.

Unfortunately for Sony they won' t have anything that looks as graphically outstanding, so people going into stores and seeing Genji 2 or Motorstorm running on PS3 and then Gears of War or Forza 2 running on the much cheaper 360 are going to pick up the 360. Surely?!

Sony' s pre-sales aren' t important, ...they have to maintain sales after that and getting enough titles out that aren' t ports or multi-platform is going to be really important. I mean, if Sony were going to have DMC4 or Heavenly Sword at launch then it might be different, but that' s not going to happen.

Halo 2 sold 7 million copies in a single year. What if Gears did the same?!

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 09:27
Ha ha, this is serious crazy! I guessed the right date in another thread, 17th November.

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 09:29

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Ha ha, this is serious crazy! I guessed the right date in another thread, 17th November.

Who' s the man!


You' re like that ancient dead dude who predicted things...

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 13:52
man i really thing GoW is gonna suck, i mean it has great graphics but to me thats no the most important part, i just have the feeling that they have focused way too much in the visuals and way too few in the rest of the game, for instance the game will just support 8 players online, the engine cant do AA, the gameplay looks pretty repetitive, the music its so uncool and i hate the voice of Marcus when he says " ill take thoese" ... so retarded, i guess the PS3 its gonna crush GoW . (please dont hate me)

Now, both Mass Effect and Splinter Cell: DA looks pretty cool, i really cant whait to play them, those games are really gonna rock.

BTW can anybody tell me if this is true


XBOX 360

Dead Rising - 7.5, 7.0, 8.0
Prey - 6.5, 7.0, 8.0
Ninety-Nine Nights - 4.5, 4.5, 6.0
Bomberman Act: Zero - 3.0, 3.0, 2.0 (Shame of the Month)


Those are supposed to be EGM scores, please tell me that its not true, i was really looking foward to play Dead Rising, im not surprised about N3´s score though, but Dead Rising 7.5 average??? DAMN THAT CANT BE.
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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 15:11

for instance the game will just support 8 players online, the engine cant do AA



For the style of GoW 8 players aint bad, its not designed to be a multiplayer game, and it has coop, which really add up for it!

If you by AA, mean anti aliasation, all 360 games are required to run with a certain amount, not sure if its 2x or 4x. (at least i think they are) and the engine, being the Unreal 3 engine, should have no problem dealing with that!

The game will be no less repetetive than for say Ghost Recon, and that game rocks, so you should look some more at this title before passing it off!

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 17:29
Here is why Gears will beat the PS3!

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RE: Gears of War Vs PS3 - Aug 04, 2006 18:41

the engine cant do AA


True but DOF and motion blur are being used much to the same effect. The thing about aliasing is that it' s MUCH more evident when an object in the foreground has a contrasting colour to object in the background. With Gears the colour palette is made up of greys, blues, blacks, and browns for the most part making aliasing far less noticable.

Gears of War, Mass Effect, Brother in Arms 3, Rainbow Six: Vegas, UT2007, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Elveon, BioShock, Coded Arms: Assault, Fatal Inertia, Huxley etc are all using the engine, ...complaining about Gears means you' d have to complain and worry and worry about these games too.


for instance the game will just support 8 players online


I can see your point but this isn' t UT2007 and they weren' t going to to HAVE multiplayer at all in the beginning. Personally i prefer playing 8 player GRAW to playing 16 so i' m not really annoyed that Gears will only support 8.


the gameplay looks pretty repetitive


The squad command mechanics haven' t been shown yet. The game will be akin to GRAW on 360 so it' ll be about as repetative as that.


i hate the voice of Marcus when he says " ill take thoese"


But you get the joke right?!


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