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Tiz
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 03:29

Also, there' s two black characters in Perfect Dark: Zero, Both females. The one that Jo talks to on the Radio (or whatever it is) In the first level.

And then that other one.. cant remember her name, but she' s evil (You fight her in some stupid simulator or whatever it is).


Ones Russian, and the other one is chinese....

WHERE' S THE BLACK IN THAT?

Have you played it properly?

I know they are very, very VERY tanned, but they are definitely not black I can
assure..

However, Jo Dark IS!!
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 03:31
Well, it seems there are some black main characters after all. And some of them are even women. That' s nice. Very few of the games were good though which is kind of sad but whatever. I' ve barely played any of the mentioned games though but some of them are worth trying I guess.
I like the Swat games where you can choose different characters because the black guys there are normal guys.
I' m looking forward to the day when we get a black main character in Final Fantasy .
One of my favourite black characters is Axel in the Twisted Metal series. Sadly he follows the stereotype of a black male but he' s a classic that' s been around for a while. I love the ending in Twisted Metal Head-On:
SPOILER WARNING

*Axel in pain*
Axel: " I... wish... for... peac... (tries to say " peace" )
*Proffessor pushes button that gives Axel more pain*
Axel (screams out in pain): " zaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"
Calypso: " Pizza. Pizza? Your wish for pizza is granted"
Axel: Nooooooooooo!
Pizza appears...
I just love those twisted endings .

Anyway, I' d like to see black characters appear as a natural part of games. Right now you only see black characters (or other ethnic " minorities" ) when the developers go " Oh yeah, we need a black dude here" . And then they follow all the stereotypes.
Kind of... ?

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 03:34

ORIGINAL: Tiz


Have you played it properly?


Nope well i have played it through once, hastily, but i never thaught of her as a chinese, it just didnt get to me.

Ok, ok, the other one was chinese, but where did you get the russian stuff? http://perfectdark.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/pdzero/characters.php

Check Chandra Sekhar, She looks pretty damn black to me.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:36
Trust me, if you have heard the way she speaks and looks in the game, you can
tell she is russian...

She doesn' t look like that at all in the game.

Don' t stereotype the big lips, big eyes and flared nostril features... She really is
russian.. c' mon with terms like...

" Tasty... Ooohh.. did I say that out loud?"

No, she is not referring to a chicken breast.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:37

Anyway, I' d like to see black characters appear as a natural part of games. Right now you only see black characters (or other ethnic " minorities" ) when the developers go " Oh yeah, we need a black dude here" . And then they follow all the stereotypes.
Kind of... ?

...you disappoint me gin......

..meet Raven....





....the coolest black videogame character ever...

..Namco did a fantastic job with his design... ...i swear this dude out-cools even the mighty Hayabusa....
....can you imagine how totally awesome it would be if Namco made a spin-off action game for him? ....in the style of Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden?....

.....it would rock!....

(..if i sound excited, it' s cause i just ordered Tekken5 online for less than the price of a memory card!!..)

.....anyway, ...he' s a great example of a awesome character who also just happens to have dark skin...


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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:39


ORIGINAL:


No, she is not referring to a chicken breast.


Really?

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:41

ORIGINAL: Bishonen


..Namco did a fantastic job with his design... ...i swear this dude out-cools even the mighty Hayabusa....
....can you imagine how totally awesome it would be if Namco made a spin-off action game for him? ....in the style of Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden?....

.....it would rock!....

(..if i sound excited, it' s cause i just ordered Tekken5 online for less than the price of a memory card!!..)

.....anyway, ...he' s a great example of a awesome character who also just happens to also have dark skin




Oh yeah ......now that you mention it he is probably the coolest black guy iv' e seen in a game.

(@tiz)I honestly couldn' t give a fu@k about post numbers and secondly did you not just do the same? and lastly a bit of a poke and fun with the race thing a couple times is funny but over use is draggin and gets insulting....in relation to your ' ' ryo hyabusha after smokin weed and hangin in brooklyn too long' '



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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:44
Errrr.... (To the above)

Are you trying to reach 600 posts really quickly?

Edit: Oh you added something... was wondering...
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 04:47





Everybody, I would like you to meet Hayabusa after hanging out in Brooklyn too
long and selling his antiques to Hayate, getting high and pimpin out ALL the
DOA girls..

(ABOVE )

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 05:57

(@tiz)I honestly couldn' t give a fu@k about post numbers and secondly did you not just do the same? and lastly a bit of a poke and fun with the race thing a couple times is funny but over use is draggin and gets insulting....in relation to your ' ' ryo hyabusha after smokin weed and hangin in brooklyn too long' '

...yea....

..you don' t have to be black to find those comments ' questionable' ....

...someone should remind him that Kikizo is home for Sony haters, not nazis...
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 06:11
Hey...how about Adam from Streets of Rage? He is black, he is cool and a good guy.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 17:29
Raven is cool!
Finally, a black character we can all look up to.
He is blonde though...

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:17


ORIGINAL: Bishonen


(@tiz)I honestly couldn' t give a fu@k about post numbers and secondly did you not just do the same? and lastly a bit of a poke and fun with the race thing a couple times is funny but over use is draggin and gets insulting....in relation to your ' ' ryo hyabusha after smokin weed and hangin in brooklyn too long' '

...yea....

..you don' t have to be black to find those comments ' questionable' ....

...someone should remind him that Kikizo is home for Sony haters, not nazis...



Firstly to dasher232, don' t try and play it like you are the ONLY black person in
these forums ok?

If you were up to date with the discussions, you would find that I too am black.

Secondly, the comments are just a JOKE, now if I can accept them from MYSELF
please stop b!tching.

And..

the reason I said:


Errrr.... (To the above)

Are you trying to reach 600 posts really quickly?

Edit: Oh you added something... was wondering...


Was because when you first made the post, all that was there was Bishonen' s quote.

THAT' S ALL!

So when I saw it, it was just a post of a quote... nothing else, which is why I added...


Edit: Oh you added something... was wondering...


When you added some text.


...someone should remind him that Kikizo is home for Sony haters, not nazis...


Hehe.. Good 1 Bish, none of my quotes contain any flair of Nazism in them..

I know how Nazi' s react to coloured people, trust me, I have seen Neo-Nazis, and I
have been to Germany, what I am saying is not a speck of dust on how the germans reacted to my presence in their country..

So dasher, don' t be so quick to puff out your chest in the slightest hostile moment.

That is all.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:24

I know how Nazi' s react to coloured people, trust me, I have seen Neo-Nazis, and I
have been to Germany, what I am saying is not a speck of dust on how the germans reacted to my presence in their country..


Are you saying Germany still have lots of nazis? I thought they were nice nowadays?
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:37

Are you saying Germany still have lots of nazis? I thought they were nice nowadays?


No WAY!

It' s mostly isolated pockets of ignorant people.

But the stuff they say... dasher232 may just bring out a knife or something.

It didn' t affect me though, because I generally don' t LISTEN to that kind of stuff.

Never go to a German Pub though if your coloured.

Did you hear about that stuff in the World Cup?
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:48


ORIGINAL: Tiz

Did you hear about that stuff in the World Cup?


Nein. Was geschah? Waren die Deutschen gefährlich?
Ich bin nie nach Deutschland gewesen. Aber sie scheinen nett. Möglicherweise hatten Sie Unglück?

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:49
?????

Erm, Ginj.... You' re scaring me.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 18:55
Gut! Kennen Sie Ihren Platz BOY.
Hehe, Ich scherze. Deutscher ist Spaß.


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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:03
Gut, means " good" doesn' t it?

And you either called me a fanboy, or black boy just now... I don' t know which...

STOP! STOP!
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:04
Tiz my response to your comment had nothing to do with your colour in the first place or squaring up to ' ' puff out' ' my chest as you so put it so the whole thing about me acting like i' m the only black person that uses the forms is a bit random and pointless (no offense) the reason why I said it like I said before is that now and again things are funny but when they' re constant the effect wears off. As for the neo nazi thing and I must get a knife out at the slightest thing i' ve had my fair share of the racism thing (even on here) and to be honest I always have and always will ignore it....anyway i' ll leave it there.

on a slightly different note..does anyone know who imeredithi is I forgot...
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:13

on a slightly different note..does anyone know who imeredithi is I forgot...


Hehe. A slight dig?

But if you are being serious.... That is me.

If not then...
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:19
Hehe sorry I really didn' t know who it was.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:20
I am very curious as to WHY you would ask that out of the blue?
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:22
Because I was on live and everytime i' m on there you were there 2 hours before.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:26
what' s your name on Live?
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:31
Nolan242 (I think) or 243.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 19:36
No, it' s 242.

Oh that' s you..

Then, have you checked out...

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Post here, as we are trying to make an effective resistance..
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 01, 2006 20:38

I know how Nazi' s react to coloured people, trust me, I have seen Neo-Nazis, and I
have been to Germany, what I am saying is not a speck of dust on how the germans reacted to my presence in their country..


..ok, my bad...


Raven is cool!
Finally, a black character we can all look up to.
He is blonde though...


...true... ....but then if Japanese guys can dye their hair blonde, why not black?...
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 00:30


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...true... ....but then if Japanese guys can dye their hair blonde, why not black?...


Why do japanese guys have to dye their hair blonde? Do they love white people that much?

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 00:59

Why do japanese guys have to dye their hair blonde? Do they love white people that much?


Do they love Eminem that much? (Bleach blonde)
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 01:01
They do that cause 99.9% of them has black hair,people want to stick out,and they like anime.

It' s like asking why some people goes gothic...to stand out of the crowd ofc.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 01:05
Bah! There are so many asians with blonde hair. They don' t stand out.
Grey hair like Sephiroth would be über cool though.
I have a confession to make... My hair is turning grey .
I have one single hair that is completely grey. Will the rest of my beautiful hair turn grey too? I' m scared.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 01:05


ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

They do that cause 99.9% of them has black hair,people want to stick out,and they like anime.

It' s like asking why some people goes gothic...to stand out of the crowd ofc.


So that means that at least 70% of japs want to stand out?

That leaves the other 30% with black hair?
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 03:27
Maybe I should dye my hair so it doesn' t show that it' s turning grey... ?

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 08:15

Maybe I should dye my hair so it doesn' t show that it' s turning grey... ?


no...that´s nature´s way to say that you are becoming as cool and strong as sephiroth


So that means that at least 70% of japs want to stand out?

That leaves the other 30% with black hair?


when i was there i noticed that maybe 30 to 40% of japanese people color their hair with brown color...black is still the main color for many also....only about 15 to 20% use strong colors as pink, blue, white, etc.

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 09:04

when i was there i noticed that maybe 30 to 40% of japanese people color their hair with brown color...black is still the main color for many also....only about 15 to 20% use strong colors as pink, blue, white, etc.



How much does it cost to start a hair dye business out there? And can someone
design a logo for me that is just off a playstation logo..

Do you have ANY IDEA how rich I would be?

Of course all my staff will be japanese people I find in the Uk, and I will have
a sexy @$$ translator/ intepretor.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 02, 2006 09:25

Of course all my staff will be japanese people I find in the Uk, and I will have
a sexy @$$ translator/ intepretor.


lol

i want a sexy japanese tranlator too

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 03, 2006 00:39

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....only about 15 to 20% use strong colors as pink, blue, white, etc.


Um.. yeah.. only...
I don' t know how many people dye their hair in weird colors in your country but to me 20% is quite a lot. Actually, to me, it' s unbelievable that so many people dye their hair.
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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 03, 2006 04:52
Yeah, I Think CJ (Carl Johnson) from GTA:SA is the only real black main character, Yes it would be cool if more games would have a black character or an option to pick a race or something

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RE: Black main characters? - Jul 03, 2006 06:09

Um.. yeah.. only...
I don' t know how many people dye their hair in weird colors in your country but to me 20% is quite a lot. Actually, to me, it' s unbelievable that so many people dye their hair.


lol....i didn´t noticed that...my bad

but i meant to say that for a country that has such a strong culture about standing out with strong hair colors ( i mean in the latest 15 years because many are still conservative about looks). examples of that culture is anime, J-rock and j-pop, games, cosplay.

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