GTA IV will use the same graphic engine as Table Tennis!!

Great news,Table Tennis look fucking amazing,just google or search for picture of the game or videos t osee the graphic,its amazing!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Originally I thought table tennis was a joke and that it was actually a preview of one small section of what would be in GTA IV. Guess I was wrong.

Anyways, if GTAIV is bigger in scale then the previous and has that graphical look...gonna be quite a feat. Unlike the majority here, I enjoyed GTA. Simply because it was a game I could just come home to and fuck around with relentlessly. Same reason I like Elder Scrolls and Mercenaries. GTA would rank 3rd in that list however since altho open it was quite limited in a vast majority of things in comparison.

GTA IV will use the same graphic engine as Table Tennis!!

Ahh but will it use the same ' fun' -engine?

That doesn' t mean the graphics will be the same. The gaphics will still have to be downgraded to compansate for the many many more objects to render in GTA.

Aw man, I don' t want GTA 4 to be a ping pong game (which now it obviously will), I want to rape hookers and steal their money and say " nigga" a lot. That' s what the game is all about.

Aw man, I don' t want GTA 4 to be a ping pong game (which now it obviously will), I want to rape hookers and steal their money and say " nigga" a lot. That' s what the game is all about.

well if all that were true, the game might even be truly controversial, and thus a little fún!

That doesn' t mean the graphics will be the same. The gaphics will still have to be downgraded to compansate for the many many more objects to render in GTA.

Well,it is a ping pong game,its hard to say how much more they could have added or not.
The characters in this game look amazing though,and im sure they can use same for main characters in the game.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

The characters in this game look amazing though,and im sure they can use same for main characters in the game.

Its really simple Quez, say you have 1.000.000 Polygons to spend ( Hypotheticly) in one game you have a city full of characters, maybe you need to rend 100 people at one time, that leaves 10.000 polygons per person (not counting the cityscape) in the ping pong or fighthing game, you only have 2 characters to rend, letting you use 500.000 polygons per character! making them more detailed!

Look at mass effect,characters looks the same,as with gears of war and still they can add up to 30 NPC at screen at once...atleast in mass effect.

its importent that yuou also get that it was their first next gen console game,im sure they are better with the hardware and how to max their graphic engine.
So im not worried a bit about downscale.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Just dont expect FN og TT characters in a game wiht loads of action going on

What does FTW mean?
and pwned?
and W00T!
and Rofl?

Sorry to be off topic...

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I dont,TT characters looked way better thanks to the lightning above them and the sweat that came under the game,but without it can be reasonble...
However perhaps they gonna use each CPU to use as many NPC as possible,then ofc they have to downscale...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: Tiz

What does FTW mean?
and pwned?
and W00T!
and Rofl?

Sorry to be off topic...

Well those are just PC slang or something, short term initial
lol-laugh out loud
lmao-laugh my @$$ of
pawned-ate it example (like if a skater screw up on a trick, which means he ate it)
W00T- Hell Yeah
I don' t really know much, forums and site through out the net are use alot by poster.

To the topic
I hope that Rock Star use the TT(Table Tennis) engine for the upcoming ' ' GTA4' ' but for some reason, I don' t think that the charactor models/detail/texture will look exactly like TT, because GTA4 will have lot' s of interaction, and there for the graphic animation will be strip down. You all may have already seen the ' ' Saint Row' ' trailer and the graphic was ok, it didn' t impress me, but if the charactor animation was like ' ' Fight night r3' ' or ' ' Table Tennis' ' then I would be very impress.

I know that they are PCvariations Kaoru, thanks. But it' s been buggin me as to
what:

What does FTW mean?
and pwned?
and W00T!
and Rofl?

all means...

Someone help, this is thekinda thing I lose sleep over.. Yes that is sad..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

WTF is what the fuck


pwned is Pawned (humiliated)
WOOT is WHAT, YEAH
Rofl is rolling on the floor laughing!

Tiz,

a couple I had to look up myself, but:

For The Win;
Pwned - owned i.e. you own that person (usually used in halo when you beat someone down!)
W00T - WooHoo!
Rolling On the Floor Laughing

hehe you learn someything new everyday, IMHO.

SS

Swedish skillz!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Theres still nearly 2 years for the games engine to be tweaked and played with. Hell with that amount of time maybe they could find a way to allow that kind of detail whilst maintaining the size of the ever growing GTA cities.

Im more curious about what style they plan on using with the next one. First one went with the Mafia, second went more with drug cartels, third used the urban lifestyle theme...what does that leave?

I want the 4th one to take place in Prison, WITHOUT any ' Hot Coffee' elements ;)

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

I want it to be in Hong Kong.
GTA IV.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Imagine Grand Theft Auto using an improved version of the Dead or Alive 4 graphic engine!!! Does that NOT make your mouth water??

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

No.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

gta4 will be in europe, or maybe London to be excat, since all games before hand followed the route of the ps1 games citys, vice city, san adreas etc. London is the only one they havent done yet.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

The graphics shown in Table Tennis for the 360 are easily possible on a larger GTA type scale on the 360. There will not only be minimal to zero downgrades there will also be more graphical bells and whistles than those shown in Table Tennis.

Fact is that was rockstars first 360 title it will take money more attempts to truly max out the potential on this console and after Table Tennis we can be pretty much assured that they have a better understanding of how to utilize the 360 far beyond what they did on Table Tennis.

There' s very little actually going on in Table Tennis. You only have 2 functional characters to worry about, 1 NPC' s AI, minimal animations outside of the player characters and CPU opponent, no worries about draw distance or realistic (read ' natural' ) lighting or whether effects.

The game, like FNR3 is a graphical showcase. GTAiV will NOT use the same kind of detailed character models during gameplay. Like Mass Effect, cutscenes will feature much more highly detailed characters than you' ll see walking about in the street (whatever) when you' re actually playing it. Right now, even with XNA and DX10 it' s virtually impossible to recreate that kind of detail on such a massive scale.

San Andreas was huge but suffered because of it' s size. It has framerate issues, long loading times and tons of bugs and glitches. Creating something on that kind of scale (or even Vice City) using the same kind of high quality character models used in R* TT would kill 360 and PS3 alike. The game will have to have enough NPC' s walking about and enough traffic to be a convincing city, along with AI (although basic) for them all, animation cycles, realistic physics and advanced lighting, wich is a lot for the processors to worry about before it starts calculating user inputs!

It' s more realistic to expect character models akin to Oblivion.

All we know for sure is that the graphic we seen in Table Tennis is created by their Graphic engine.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

All we know for sure is that the graphic we seen in Table Tennis is created by their Graphic engine.

I' m sorry QuezcatoL, but you confuse me!

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

It' s more realistic to expect character models akin to Oblivion.

True. That' s a good thing, right? I mean, I don' t need hyper-realistic NPCs in a free-roaming environment. I like the way Oblivion does faces. It' s so refreshing to play an RPG where the NPCs don' t all look the same.

What i meant was...

What we saw in Table Tennis was all made with their new graphic engine named " RAGE" ,that they also use in GTA4.

That' s positive...right?

In some real time cutscenes or place they might add that cool sweat on main characters.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

What i meant was...

What we saw in Table Tennis was all made with their new graphic engine named " RAGE" ,that they also use in GTA4.

That' s positive...right?

In some real time cutscenes or place they might add that cool sweat on main characters.

Yeah, but just as in the MGS series, the cutscenes will look better than the gameplay.

Table Tennis looks awesome, and Fight Night Round 3 is one of my favourite games on 360 so far, but to have those kind of models in a huge evnironment like those in GTA games would require more processing power than any of the consoles offer.

The RAGE engine will obviously be scalable and so like N3 where the cutscenes look f**king amazing, the gameplay will be dumbed down visually because of the amount of stuff that will be going on at any given point.

It' ll no doubt look good, but i don' t have very high hopes for the game itself. Like Terry said, it' d be better if it was set in something like a prison (they are setting Bully in a school afterall), and then, in confined spaces with less NPC' s and a much shorter draw distance, there' d be a better chance of the game looking as good as TT.

Hong Kong,would love a asian main character or some white honkey going to honk kong making bad things there :P

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Hopefully the next GTA will feature a similar create-a-player as Oblivion hell they used the same thing in Top Spin 2. And since 2k games is a subsidery of Take-Two Interactive...meh probably not. However, since Saints Row is allowing for fully custom players I hope GTA does similar. Chickapoo88 was angry when a female custom character was ousted from Saints Row.

ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

gta4 will be in europe, or maybe London to be excat, since all games before hand followed the route of the ps1 games citys, vice city, san adreas etc. London is the only one they havent done yet.

Wow, I didn' t know that. London would be cool! The ps2 games took on the look and feel of various movies. Vice city had kind of a Miami Vice/Scarface feel to it and San Andreas was Boyz in the Hood all the way. They should make the fourth one mimic the Guy Ritchie movies. Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch! That would be cool!

Maybe Jason Statham could voice one of the characters! Yeah! Or that guy who played Bricktop! Sweet!

Maybe Rockstar should take a leaf out of Shenmue' s books....

THEY should include an Arcade that you can go and play Table tennis all-day,
if you were running from the law, you could always break off into the table tennis
arcade and play 1 on 1... If you lose, you go to jail.. I f you win, he gives you
all his weapons, his wife, family and all his cop vehicles (helicopter, car, hummer
etc), and all his personal vehicles too. That would make the game so much fun.
You should also be able to break into houses and steal someone' s cat, then hold
a gun to it point blank and hold it as a hostage.

THAT WOULD ROCK!!!!!

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

possibley you are a cop this time and you chase down criminals but end becoming one yourself at the end, set in london, and the new gameplay would be all the policeing dutys, with real time work hours just like shenmue.

Anyone see The Getaway for ps3? that looks fantatsic while still being quite large.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

yeah gataway is a sweet game

Also remember this,dont you guys think GTA4 has a much bigger budget and team then Table Tennis had?

I think they had a timeline and a budget that was just enough to fit this off spin with a Table Tennis game.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

not to mention that the ps3 is much more powerfull than the 360 so I think GTA4 on ps3 will look BETTER than table tennis.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Perhaps you can demonstrate on what a ps3 does that proofs its much more powerful.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Anyone see The Getaway for ps3? that looks fantatsic while still being quite large.

Getaway looks great. It' s being developed by one of Sony' s internal studio' s so i expect it to look better than 3rd party PS3 games.

Hopefully it' ll look as good as in the trailers!

(note that the caracters in the Getaway tech demo' s are relatively low poly but have very hard shadows and highlights applied to them from what looks to be some snazzy lighting)

I' d much rather play a well done Getaway than a GTA game any day of the week!

R*' s Table Tennis is AWESOME (i picked it up today) and not only do the characters clothes move freely and realisticaly but they also sweat and the sweat comes through your clothes after a while. It' s well worth it' s asking price!

Yes,we need to play again in Table Tennis

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.