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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 15:56
Y' know, i almost forgot Microsofts biggest mistake with 360...

...RUSHING RARE TO FINISH PERFECT DARK ZERO!!! ...

...it could have been awesome but instead it was horrible...
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 15:59

RUSHING RARE TO FINISH PERFECT DARK ZERO!!! ...


Yeah, it wasnt really that good! I havent even booted it up, since i got my HD TV

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 16:49

Moto GP 2006
Prey
Chromehounds
Dead Rising
N3: Ninety-Nine Nights
Test Drive Unlimited
Tom Clancy' s Splinter Cell Double Agent
Just Cause
Tom Clancy' s Rainbow Six Vegas
Phantasy Star Universe
Tony Hawk' s Project 8
Call of Duty 3
Viva Pinata
Too Human
Brothers in Arms: Hell' s Highway
Killing Day
Sonic the Hedgehog
Stranglehold
Gears of War
Unreal Tournament 2007
Huxley
Soulcalibur 4
Galaga
Stuntman 2
Mass Effect
Castle Wolfenstein
House of the Dead
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2
Jade Empire 2
Forza Motorsport 2
Resident Evil 5
Alan Wake
Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007
Crackdown
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Lost Planet
Elveon
GTR
Virtua Tennis 3
Overlord
Dark Sector
Grand Theft Auto IV
Fable 2
Lost Odyssey
SEGA Rally Revo
The Darkness
Haze
The Club
Indiana Jones
Omikron KARMA
Halo 3
Hellboy
2 Days to Vegas
Project Sylph
Blue Dragon
The Outsider
Ninja Gaiden 2
Avalon


Bullet Witch!!!!!!!!!!!! B-U-L-L-E-T W-I-T-C-H!!!!!!!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 16:57
Bulletwiitch kinda underwent an upgrade didnt it? I saw it last year and it looked cool but graphically like an xboc game and i saw it about 2 months ago and it looks much better. I hope it gets released in europe though and i dont see the point in releasing it just in japan because the install base is so small.

1 I dont like the 360 headset because it' s tacky
2 I didt like most of the launch titles like Gun and American Wasteland
3 I think the pad should use a lithium ion battery and just be regargable instead og having to buy a bettery for it.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 18:19

The x1900xt can do AA+HDR in Oblivion when you use a patch. But I dont have one...


Wohoo, I' m getting a new PC in september and that has a x1900xt.


Majik, wtf? You usually hate GTA and now you' re looking forward to it? Weirdo!

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 18:25
I just didn' t want to miss it off. It' s an important game for 360 and i' m hoping that Rockstar change some stuff so it' s not just a retarded sandbox.

The GTA games have so much promise, i just wish they weren' t stupid. Still, i always say that GTA3 and GTA: LCS were technical achievements on their respective platforms so there' s no reason to think that VI won' t do the same for next-gen consoles.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 19:26

RUSHING RARE TO FINISH PERFECT DARK ZERO!!! ...

Nooo! Don’t open the box of sealed memories… But seriously speaking, that game was probably the biggest disappointment I have had in gaming as of late. Just thinking about the positive reviews it got makes me want to puke, and then stab someone. I can’t believe they went from the great original to the seriously lacking Zero, which deserves a score similar to its name. And what has happened to Rare, who went from creating nothing but top notch titles for the Nintendo, to only release mediocre games for Microsoft. Though I do admit to not having played much of Kameo which seems to actually be a nice game.

BTW Majik, that’s one impressive list. Still, why no Dead or Alive Code Cronus? Sure there’s not much know about it, but you DO know it’ll be great no matter what!

Edit:

Halo 3 Trailer Documentary Released

Hehe… You know a game is seriously hyped, when they release a making of the teaser trailer for a game sequel, which lasted for a couple of seconds. I mean WTF?!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 19:32
I never played the original PD, as i never had a N64. But its really too soon to tell if Rare will get back in the game, and make great titles. Kameo is decent, i found it boring though, not really my cup of tea i guess!

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 19:35
People are overexaggrating how bad PDZ was,it was a good fps,in terms of SP and MP.
However PD was one of the best FPS ever made,which clearly pdz wasn' t,but its one of the best looking ever made,so rare deliverd a extrmeley good looking game,and forgot the gameplay.

COuld that have been cause people just keep on trashing PDZ graphic 2005?
Perhaps.
Also lets not forget it was dev for GC then xbox then rushed fro 360 release.

Next game rare done cant be blamed for nothing,Pinata and the next has been dev for 360 in mind from the start.


ps! about GTA4,i chatted with majik before e3,and said i never was into GTA serie,and Majik said he liked it,so i dont know what he said on kikizo and what he says in the xbl chatt.
But he clearly seems to dissage with me and like GTA.
GTa for me can be fun some min,and some missions was cool,but its like majik said,only gta3 was fun cause it feelt so fresh and new when it came.

The graphic and the big city and the camera angle,it was a good game,for me 8.7/10.

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Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 20:02

People are overexaggrating how bad PDZ was,it was a good fps,in terms of SP and MP.


Really now, the SP really wasnt good at all! Okay the gameplay might not have been exstremely bad, but the story simply sucked ASS

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 20:10
The story was horrible,and the PD had 21 SP maps,where PDZ had 13 which last one was just a easy boss fights that take 1 min so basically it had double amount of maps.

I can go back to Co-op over XBL and enjoy PDZ SP.
I think the SP was fine,was like a 83/100.
However this is really an XBL game,thats run with the MP.

ps! PD had also co-op over its 21 maps,but nvm...
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Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 20:35
I love Bullet Witch! If you guys have time, go over to gametrailers and look at
their new Bullet Witch video, graphics have been upgraded, story looks interesting
framerate issue resolved and should see an even bigger improvement.

Personally I love it, it has a real japanese feel to it, even if she has a f$cking huge
gun on her back and looks moderately like a third person shooter. But she can
use SPELLS AND INCANTATIONS!!!! Who needs crappy ShadowRun or
whatever it is called...

I can' t wait until TGS 2k6 I wanna see my Bullet Witch!!!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 20:39

BTW Majik, that’s one impressive list. Still, why no Dead or Alive Code Cronus? Sure there’s not much know about it, but you DO know it’ll be great no matter what!


I know it' s probably going to end up on PS3 though so it' s not in my list.


ps! about GTA4,i chatted with majik before e3,and said i never was into GTA serie,and Majik said he liked it,so i dont know what he said on kikizo and what he says in the xbl chatt.
But he clearly seems to dissage with me and like GTA.


Lies i tell thee!


People are overexaggrating how bad PDZ was,it was a good fps,in terms of SP and MP.


The game is awful all round. The story, the cutscenes, the character models, the animations, the physics, the overly shiny plastic looking textures, the lack of a sprint button etc etc etc...

I hated playing it but played through the SP because i' d just paid £50 for it.

The online is bad too, being way too slow with dodgy animation and stupid looking characters. You can' t even choose who you play as. The maps are boring and only the guns are cool.

My point wasn' t that the game sucks (because that' s just my opinion), but rather that if Microsoft hadn' t made Rare rush it it could have been so much better!

Kameo on the other hand is amazing. It' s a little short (about 6hrs), but it' s an absolutely fantastic game with tons of depth and replay value. It' s also absolutely gorgeous, especially in HD (i can' t stress enough the difference HD makes). It' s one of the best 360 games out and the co-op mode is very cool too.


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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 20:52

Kameo on the other hand is amazing. It' s a little short (about 6hrs), but it' s an absolutely fantastic game with tons of depth and replay value. It' s also absolutely gorgeous, especially in HD (i can' t stress enough the difference HD makes). It' s one of the best 360 games out and the co-op mode is very cool too.


Yes Kameo was a brilliant game, you can tell Rare had taken a lot of base ideas
from Nintendo, but bring on Bullet Witch!!!

Please no-one shoot me down and tell me their bad opinion on Bullet Witch, only
say good things please!



BTW Majik, that’s one impressive list. Still, why no Dead or Alive Code Cronus? Sure there’s not much know about it, but you DO know it’ll be great no matter what!


I know it' s probably going to end up on PS3 though so it' s not in my list.


PS3????? Say it ain' t so! Didn' t Itagaki say that he didn' t want to develop for
Sony as long as Tekken was there? Apparently he hates it...

But Code Chronus on PS3??

I definitely hope not!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:00

PS3????? Say it ain' t so! Didn' t Itagaki say that he didn' t want to develop for
Sony as long as Tekken was there? Apparently he hates it...


Well, Bishonen knows what' s what with Team Tinja, but i keep hearing that the title will end up on PS3, with Project Progressive and Ninja Gaiden 2 on 360 and a golf game on Wii.

There' s one title missing and i always forget what it is. Whaich is the game that will be about Ayane and Kasumi?


I can' t wait until TGS 2k6 I wanna see my Bullet Witch!!!


I' ll tell you what it' s like after i play it then.
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:09

I' ll tell you what it' s like after i play it then.


????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I take it you' re going to the Tokyo gameshow then? How did you get to go?

I think the title with Kasumi and Ayane is called Project Progressive....
Not sure though...

But if you do play Bullet Witch, please, please start a hands on forum, I wanna
know what it is like. It didn' t interest me at first, but the more they release,
the more I want it!!!!

I wanna be a Bullet Witch!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:13
坂口 博信!!!
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:16

坂口 博信!!!


You sure you' re not a dev Quez?
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:19
Also, any1 that is on X-live, im playin Doa4, so send me an invite to a game, and
ill play.. Either Graw, R* table tennis and Halo2.. also doa4..

Edit: I am under IMeReDiTHI..
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:29

I take it you' re going to the Tokyo gameshow then? How did you get to go?


Yup, i wanted to go to to E3 but couldn' t. Anybody can go to TGS so that' s where i' m going this year. I' m hoping i can convince jtype to go to but i' m not sure if he will be able to get the uni to fund the trip or whether he' ll have lectures to do while the show is on.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:50
How much in £' s did ya pay? Or how much did ur Uni fund you?

If I can' t go E3. I' ll def wanna go TGS...
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 21:59
Ha, i haven' t paid anything yet. I' m funding it myself and there are 9 of us going from my course and a further 2 who are doing digital imaging degrees.

jtype is a lecturer at a different university and a great guy to boot and he wanted to go to E3 but the uni wouldn' t pay for it.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 22:14
Ok first off, I' m no fanboy or a hater torward Microsoft, but it' s true that their console has it' s flaws
The original xbox was very big and heavey, the console design was way off, but it turn out better then the concept design the X model with the green circle in the middle, which was ugly, the controller design was bad, but thanks to Japanese support the controller there was redesign and called the S-type, then Microsoft brought it here in America and it took over the first pad.
The 360 has a bad problem with over-heating it even cause the system to crash and freeze and the other major problem is CD scratches wich has cause some rental store like gamefly I heard back a while ago stated that they will not be ordering any more 360 game disc becasue of this issue.

The lack of Japanese support, this by far the most important task for Microsoft, I remember Microsoft went to Japan and they tried to buy off as many developer as they can as in to make contract, they even offer millions and millions of doller to top developer to make exclusive titles, and it seem that their so called money talk, did' nt really go well, so instead they use this tatic on American developer, such as Bungie and Rare, and these two company rarely release much game only one exclusive title every 3-5 years, but Team Ninja wasen' t just a company that sold themself to M$ they lend their hand to help out M$ and they are trying their best. As for Team Ninja Tomonoubu Itagaki dislike his Japanese developer around Japan especially Namco he really hate the develpoment team, because no one is really takeing advantage of the American hardware and thats the XBOX, saying that ' ' If we don' t help the American we will lose' ' I think he ment in the relationship between Japanese and American game development, and thats the reason of lack of development from Japanese 3rd party, You see if Square-Enix and other top Japanese developer lend their support to M$ they would have a chance on makeing a goal, then you would see other Japanese 3rd party going along as well.

Sure the 360 has some support right now, but do you think it' ll last, because once the PS3 comes out these supporter will move to Sony next-gen console, here' s a good example two 360 title is makeing a leap to the PS3 Namco Rige Racer 6 for 360 and now Namco is ready for Rige Racer 7 for the PS3, the other one is Sega Full-Auto now there is a sequal and it' s for the PS3

Alot of people and M$ fanboys out there are saying ' ' Who cares about the Japanese we don' t need them we got Halo' ' well if you agree then you' re dead wrong, you think Halo is gonna help Microsoft alone, even when Halo 3 comes out, by the time Sony release the PS3 it well even have more titles even exclusive titles, give it about 2 years Sony is gonna unleach it' s hell to Microsoft, and by that time the 360 is gonna be like its counterpart the original xbox, while the PS3 is gonna be like the PS2 even growing stronger.

I apologize for the long and to some of you boreing sentince, this is just the major boo boo of Microsoft the lack of Japanese support.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 08, 2006 22:34

Ha, i haven' t paid anything yet. I' m funding it myself and there are 9 of us going from my course and a further 2 who are doing digital imaging degrees.


How much is it looking like it will cost?

And what are the requirements to go to E3 anyway?
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 00:06

I think the title with Kasumi and Ayane is called Project Progressive....

Tsk, tsk... The game starring Ayane and Kasumi IS Code Cronus. Very disappointed at you guys… VERY!
And those fearing the game will land on PS3 can relax, since Tomonobu Itagaki…


Source: Gamespot
…Dead or Alive Code: Cronus' development has been shifted to the Xbox 360.

…said that! It is also rumoured to be a RPG’ish game.



Also, this might fire you up!


Source: GameDaily interview with Tomonobu Itagaki
While Itagaki did confirm that the next title in the series will be called DOA5, in our opinion, this indicates that the story and possibly many of the characters will be changing. The story for DOA4 took 10 years to develop, so Itagaki wants to spend a bit of time deciding how things will take shape for DOA5 with a new chapter in the story.

Already? Wait, I’m not ready… and… YAHOO!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 00:45

And what are the requirements to go to E3 anyway?


Some sort of tie to the gaming industry.. i.e. own or work for a gaming website that has its own domain, meaning no Ezboard sites count (last I heard)...

I' ve heard of people that work for EBGames and Best Buy being able to attend, so I suppose if you own a pawn shop that sells games you' ll qualify!!!

You also have to be 18 or older. So they say. But the security sucks anyway and I' ve seen many youngins get into the show even though they were younger than that.. Also, I remember reading that one of the former writers at Gaming Age attended E3 back when he was just 14.
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 01:05

Tsk, tsk... The game starring Ayane and Kasumi IS Code Cronus. Very disappointed at you guys… VERY!
And those fearing the game will land on PS3 can relax, since Tomonobu Itagaki…


It was Majik, he made me eat the forbidden fruit..

So what' s Project Progressive about then?

Hayate and Hayabusa?

Well I have always wanted to go E3, I am a good writer, so Im gonna get a job
at Edge or something.lol... I think Kikizo should bring all the forum members
along... The ones that live in London that is...

(I think thats me, Majik and Dasher232...)

Sorted.. We will pay for our own meals...
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 01:40
*passes Tiz a whole bowl of forbidden fruit*

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 02:23

*passes Tiz a whole bowl of forbidden fruit*


U see, now that I have all this fruit in front of me, I am gonna release some
important gaming mistakes...

DOA 4 was made by Namco...

and..

Heavenly Sword is made by Team Ninja..

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 02:36

Heavenly Sword is made by Team Ninja..



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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 03:03
Hi here' s my first post and I' ll start by getting this back on topic. Although I maybe should have put this in the " Fanboy" thread ;)

Downer - The Xbox360 powewr supply issues. I' m on my second one.
+ - MS support is awesome, when they changed my first xbox for me I got a new one delivered the next day. My new 360 arrived within a week. I' ll forgive them as it was a launch issue and PS2 had similar stories when it launched.

Downer - No HD DVD fitted. I bought a HDTV to play my 360 on. I know there' s an external one coming out, but that' s just more money. Gonna have to wait and see what Hollywood adopts - I wonder if Sony and MS are pouring money into the scene???

Someone complained about paying for online gaming? £40 a year I thought was reasonable, I play on live every night!!!

Having to pay extra for the remote on the original xbox DVD *REALLY* sucked.

Downer - Wheres my Street Fighter on Live? In fact, where is the 1 arcade game a week we were promised????

Downer - Core system - I was bumped buying this. I think they should discontinue it. You need a Hard Drive, really.

Now having said that, I ditched my PS2 when I got the xbox and havn' t looked back. Save for GTA, I never missed the PS2, and GTA is out now. I' d like to play God of War, but not enough to buy back into Sony.

I' m old school Nintendo as well, and didn' t think I would get the Gamecube after the N64, which sucked, however I was rong and I dig the cube although I gave it to my little sis.

I will be buying a Wii but just can' t get over that stupid name.

Lastly, I think the 360 kicks ass. PGR3, Call of Duty, GoW and Oblivion all rule, but I do think it needs a better variety of games. Can' t wait for Viva Pinata though!!

Hope you all had the patience to read that!!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 03:11
Welcome!

Sit, relax, enjoy yourself. Just don' t feed the fish today as they' ve already eaten...

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 03:36

Original by: industrocyberbot23
I' m old school Nintendo as well, and didn' t think I would get the Gamecube after the N64, which sucked, however I was rong and I dig the cube although I gave it to my little sis.


I’m chocked!!!

You’re on my list, pal… you’re on my list!

Edit:
And hi!
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:04
Good God.

That' s blasphemy in its most vile form. Some of my happiest times in gaming were centred around that fine console.

How can anyone not enjoy four player GoldenEye, Mario Kart or Mario Tennis? My walls are covered with the battle scars of flung N64 controllers from the stupidly tense hours upon hours of playing.

And Ocarina of Time is teh r0><0r.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:29
Haha. 007, yes. Orcania of time, absolutely. You all forgot (oh my God how could you!) the awesome and still the best wrestling titles. No Mercy spawned Can Mania, where we all got loads of cans of beer in a bath and played No Mercy all day.

However, it was done in by the PS1 and apart from the games above was a bit of a let down. I forgot SpaceStationSilicon Valley, that was good as well. But a distinct lack of adult titles underwhelmed me, something Nintendo should have addressed instead of just concentrating on the kids market. I love Nintendo for their own brand of crazy japanese mayhem, but there has to be room for gore in there too! Lastly, Mario really disappointed. I havn' t enjoyed a Mario game since 3. And I thought Sunshine on the Cube *really* sucked. He was practically uncontrollable!!

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:32

You all forgot (oh my God how could you!) the awesome and still the best wrestling titles. No Mercy spawned Can Mania, where we all got loads of cans of beer in a bath and played No Mercy all day.


I originally typed WWF No Mercy but then deleted it for Mario Tennis

Awesome game.
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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:35
Wrestling games?!

Errrrr, ...guys, ...wrestling games are BAD (although i know Terry will disagree)

I guess spandex doesn' t do it for me...

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:43
Bah!

Wrestling as a sports entertainment is awful, but No Mercy was excellent.
Ranked 11th out of all N64 games.

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:53
But the controls are always rubbish. The only near-wrestling titles i would consider playing are the Def Jam games.

But each to their own!

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RE: Microsoft boo boos! - Jun 09, 2006 04:58


Errrrr, ...guys, ...wrestling games are BAD (although i know Terry will disagree)


lol.. Well had you limited it to just American wrestling games I would have agreed about MOST being bad ;).

But I LOVE Sega' s Giant Gram series.. I DEMAND that they develop an update for next-gen consoles!!
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