IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360

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IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 30, 2006 12:39
If the PlayStation 3 was equal or lesser price (as)than the Xbox 360
what would you do?
(Lesser)
Get both

(Equal)
I wouldn' t Instanly buy either still but I would be happier that the
PS3 has a more gamer friendly price.

Playing a system in a intimate (private home like not) enviroment
and the game of my choice would help me much more understand
the games pull.

I see that if the PS3... I just realized I have nothing to say on the subject.

Your thoughts.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 30, 2006 17:25
It would have made it more easy for people to warm to I think considering everything else it' s got going against it. And at a similar price also I think they would have been in a lot of trouble from the offset....well moreso than they are now.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 30, 2006 18:31
What would you do kannon if xbox360 costed as nintendo wii?

For me its the same machine as 360,but also a blu-ray player.
Do i prefer 360 games,or do i prefer ps3?
That should be the question,never about blu-ray,i thought games was what mattered...
Now before someone wrote,well multiformat is gonna be used a lot and bla bla bla.
I can still buy a cheap HD-DVD externa drive with the 360 so drop that.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:32
ps3 isnt that overpriced compared to the 360. Its only a 100 Dollars. you swear it was a thousand. And with 360 you never take into account the fees for live and how they end up costing you much more than ps3 free online in total.

Remember, it isnt the quantiy but the quality.[:' (]
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Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:36
Actually,where does it says that you gonna be able to dl content for free?
Havnt seen that,instead they gonna have a free fee for online and charge for dl content,while 360 at this moment has the opposite,dl content=free while online play is charged.

Also,i will judge sony for their online service when its up,they claiming they have something,but couldnt show it at e3?
If they havnt anything at TGS,i wont belive them at all.

And btw you talked about price...

xbox360 premium cost here 480 dollar.

600 euro=780 dollars.

So not just some 100 dollars here in europe atleast.

Also,look at the 360 premium price for 34.000 yen,while core for ps3 is gonna cost 58.000 and some online sites in japan already charge 76.000 yen for the premium.

is that 100 dollar?

the 360premium in USA when it came out costed 399 dollar.

Well premium in USA gonna cost 599 dollar.

You compare core to premium,however in USA,EU and Japan 360 premium is around 150 dollar cheaper at this moment.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:38
I thought it was $200?

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:42

I thought it was $200?


He compare 360 premium to ps3 core.

And even then its not 100 dollar.

For ex 3700 kronor=480 dollar and thats what 360premium cost here in sweden.

ps3 premium in europe gonna cost 600 euro=780 dollar=5600 kronor.

Ofc then add on the taxes,and we gonna have even more fee,thats why i say its more like 150$ for ps3 core then 360 premium.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:42
he should do his math may be... oh i see he compared thepremium 360 pack , with the core ps3... yeah he' s almost right

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:44
quez please stop giving sweeden prices as reference, i don' t give prices in Morocco , it' s pointless IMO

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:46
Retards. Compare the 360 premium with the PS3 uh..premium whatever it' s called. That will make the difference $200 right? In percentage that' s.. um... 50% more expensive? That' s alot.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:50
Nvm,my point was to show that the price is almost the double.
And that euro is so much stronger,that 100-200 euro means much,even though many doesnt think so.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 01:54
I took ps3 price in swedis currency after takin it from euro,and then took " negative" .

And the diffence was 250$

Check yourself, 5600-3700 and then remember 1 USD=7,7 kronor.

Therefor by taking the swedish price,and REMEBER we have not included the taxes yet for ps3,some stores here in sweden say its probably gonna cost over 6000 thanks to our taxes,but im not gonna use our system cause ABO doesnt like it,then it would have been aournd 280-300 USD.

But if we skip our system and go pure euro price you gonna have 250$ exactly from the diffrence bwteen ps3 premium and xbox360+ premium.

And there you have the wii60.

Now i done the math,and you gonna save 250$ if you live in europe if you choose 360 over ps3,you gonna be able to buy that wii.
Since Nintendo said it will not be over 250$ now a lot of people gonna think,but taxes for that?

Well ofc when its cheap the taxes will be much lower cause % of that price is lower tehn ps3 and 360 well you get the picture...

And the second thing to remember is,they havnt said a price yet,they just have said it wont go over 250$ might be on how to see how people responde to the price,or later change to 229 USD for ex...
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 02:06
That Wii60 thing is so great.
Even though the PS3 might be better than the 360 it sure as hell can' t defeat two amazing consoles for the same price.
Personally, I' ll buy a Wii and use the remaining $300-$400 on about 8 Wii games.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 02:15
Well,it boils down to this...
Even if you gonna like ps3 better,you gonna get next gen graphic with awesome new IP on 360.

For a 250$ Cheaper.

Its up to you. :)
My brother is gonna pay for the ps3 cause he is a dumb person,who cant look at games,but buys for the name.

But for me well...nvm i bought my 360 prem in feb24th,so i had no idea of the price of ps3 at that time ofc,however havin seen Mass effect,halo3,gears of war,blue dragon,Ninja gaiden 2 and lost odyssey,was enough to make me going 360.

ANd yes you can name as many ps3 titles,but then we have some titles thats worth buying it for also like... GTA4,resident evil5,Dead rising,forza,fable2,viva pinata,pgr3,bioshock,graw,ob,table tennis and tri-ace new rpg.

But what i mean is,you will be a happy gamer even if you choose ps3 over 360 or 360 over ps3,and its 250 $ USD cheaper for 360.

So its a nice war,we are in :)

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 02:32

My brother is gonna pay for the ps3 cause he is a dumb person,who cant look at games,but buys for the name.



My friend says he' s gonna buy the PS3 because he likes Sony' s stuff, the PS2 for example, but he doesn' t know shit about the PS3. Nothing, hasn' t even bothered looking at trailers or announced games or anything. He' s getting the PS3 anyway. He' s not a hardcore gamer, he' s more of a mainstream guy so it seems that' s where Sony will get their fanbase. Again. Among the people who doesn' t know shit about gaming .
When I told him the price he just said " Oh well I better start saving" .
When I said tons of good stuff about the 360 he just said that it sounds good but the PS3 will probably be better anyway.
The only good thing about him is that he' s a FF lover. He' s got ALL of them, including the old NES games. He' s also got tons of FF stuff like a wrist watches and such. Lots of " limited edition" stuff. Crazy guy.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:09
would you please remind me the deal of a ps3 core vs xbox360 premium?,

i need to remind myself

so ps3 +wirless controler + 20 gig right?? + cable componenet HD (i' m nto sure about this one ) + blu ray player

vs

xbox 360 + wireles contorler + 20 gig + mic + cable components HD

so the diffrence is = a blu ray player - mic = 100 dollar not bad at all.

P.S: even without HDMI ps3 can stil play blueray with HD, that is without downscaling it because of that copy protection that require HDMI, this however will be enabled in 2012, at that time i guess , sony has another console and bluray players have become very very cheap.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:25
I guess that if you want a Blu-ray player as soon as possible then the PS3 is a really good deal. Amazing in fact.
But to those of us who doesn' t want a Blu-ray player, which I assume would be most of us, it' s a pretty bad deal.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:30
no i don' t need a blu ray player right now, but it' s a ood thng to own, it will be useful soon enough and you' ll have it for 100 bucks, isn' that amazing enough? + that 100 bucks will include the brand power of Playstation a,d well let' s say it " the additional power" it' s not a bad deal when you really think about it...

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:44
The brand power? That' s worth nothing to me. I don' t get your point, would it be like a bonus to know you' re owning a PlayStation product?
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:52
www.gamesradar.com

Saturday 13 May 2006
Sony has today cleared up the confusion over the differences in specification between the two models of PlayStation 3 - and the cheaper version won' t support wireless controllers.

As announced by the company on Monday, two versions of PS3 will be available at launch - one with a 60GB hard drive, and a less pricy model that features a 20GB hard drive. However, what the company didn' t mention at the time is that the 20GB machine also lacks a number of key features that are included as standard in the more expensive model.

The 20GB console won' t include an HDMI output, which means that it won' t be able to deliver high definition pictures. But perhaps more disappointing is that wireless bluetooth controllers won' t be supported; instead, gamers will have to make do with retro-style wired-up versions of the increasingly controversial PS3 pad.

In addition, the lower-end model also lacks WiFi and the slot for Memory Stick Duo cards included in the full-spec PS3.

A Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won' t be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version; if that' s the PS3 incarnation you opt for, you' re permanently stuck with a 20GB memory limit.

Amazingly, Sony big boss man Phil Harrison, in a BBC interview earlier this week, insisted, " What we should be clear about is that the functionality is identical in both machines. There is no difference in what the machine does."

Unfortunately, the actual facts seem to suggest otherwise.

The lack of HDMI output in the 20 GB model could potentially cause problems with restricted output resolution on Blu-ray video. An ICT flag can be set by content producers, which forces non-HDCP video down to resolutions comparable to DVD-Video. SCEA president Kaz Hirai stated that it is " too early to speculate at this point" whether movie producers will activate the ICT feature.[5]
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:56
NO mister, brand power , it' s when you have all ps2 developers on board with ps2, all your beloved franchises.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 03:58
They should' ve never announced a retard pack!
People would' ve been more satisfied with just the expensive premium version.


NO mister, brand power , it' s when you have all ps2 developers on board with ps2, all your beloved franchises.


But that' s not the case. Lots of great developers that made the PS2 a success are now turning to the 360. More and more titles are also becoming multiplatform.
So saying ALL PS2 developers are with the PS3 isn' t quite right.
The games that made the PS2 successful like GTA, Devil May Cry, Tekken, Gran Turismo and such, I' ve never liked those. I only liked a few like FF and Ico. The Gamecube (!!!) had more titles I really loved than the PS2. Not the Xbox though, man I dislike that console.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 04:00
If i want a HD-DVD im gonna buy the external HD-DVD drive for xbox360 when i feel ready for it.

And dont say that blu-rayer costed you 100 USD.
its more like 200 USD+
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 04:08
no it' s 100 $ quez, the math is simple.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 04:23
I thought the games radar article was incorrect?

but I can' t find anything to back that up. Oh well.

I don' t like this topic anymore it' s gotten dirty.

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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 05:02

no it' s 100 $ quez, the math is simple.


No,the blue ray is 200 $ no matter what they try and tell you.
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RE: IF the PS3 Was Same (or Less) Price as 360 - May 31, 2006 08:02
You guys are silly!

I think if the PS3 was the same price as the 360, we' d DEFINITELY see another Sony victory. I would DEFINITELY get one, as well.

As it stands now, both of those things are uncertain. Will Sony come out on top? Maybe, but it will be by a smaller margin if they do. Will I buy one? Maybe. It just depends on how much cash I have available at the time. I mean, I have to get the HD-DVD add-on, as well as a Nintendo Wii and games!

As for the PS3, yes, it is quite a deal to get the game machine with built in Blu-ray. Whether it' s $100 or $200 more, it' s still an AWESOME deal if you want Blu-ray! That' s the key thing. It' s not worth ANYTHING if you don' t want it, or can' t use it! I like it, though,as it' s the primary reason I' m interested in the thing!