Cell perfect for MMORPG' s?

Well, based on the CELLs technology and advanced multithreading, doesnt anyone agree that it would be perfect for MMORPG' s?

Just imagine all the people in a place would have lots of advance and unique functions, and for the cell, that would be a perfect task.

And you have blu-ray with 50 gb.
Could be a big mmorpg yes.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

mmorpg are evil. The futher away from them I get, the better! [:' (]

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Yeah bluray too. I havent seen anyone shouting about MMORPGS for the next gen, except Age of Conan for pc. But I keep waiting for someone popping out a great MMORPG dedicated for ps3, as it should be the ideal machine for it.

There is a mmorpg coming fpor ps3 that will use Unreal engine 3.0
They only showed a girl in real time in it.
She was as detailed as in...well not GoW,mass effect or MGs4,but nearly.

So can be amazing.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Why on earth would the Cell be better than the 3 CPU' s in the 360? they are virtually equal in every other way! and as far as i know the CPU isnt really hard at work in MMORPGS since there really isnt that complex AI or physics in them, its the graphics that requires most!

because the cell is a special multithread processor, which are based on allowing more graphical identities in the picture. 3 cpus doesnt need to be better cause its 3 of them, when they arent programmed in depth for special graphics like the cell.

None of the 3 processors is remarkable at multithreading. Its just allowed somewhat good because theres three of them. While Cell, one processor, harnest more power than the three, and function differently.

The thing about the cell that i highlighted, is because of the genuine multithreading. When its made to allow many many different objects to move in their own unique way, it would be perfectly suited for an MMORPG because thats the prime genre for many different characters having their own identity.

Except from Sony you' re pretty much the only one I' ve heard say good stuff about the Cell being used for videogames. How much do you know about processors and similar technology?
Or have you simply been brainwashed by Sony?

heh, no im not the only one you' ve heard say that

you see, when i mention other people who say it, you make up a reason that their either sony slaves or have been payed to say it, or something way off, so in that little world you live in there where all people who say something good about the cell are liars, i have nothing to add that can become useful for you

Well,cell is good at diffrent things like Physic,A.i and lesser at graphic,atleast carmack said that-
So i think its that what he based on.
Seeing how in a mmorpg the physics often sux,and the A.I is often importent,or rather NPC.
However,ofc im no dev ofc :)

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Well then Cetra, save me from my ignorance. Enlighten me!
You have to admit that NaughtyDog isn' t a reliable source when it comes to commenting the PS3.
If you' d say that Capcom or a company like that likes the PS3 more then I would be convinced.
I' m very confused with the fact that Hideo Kojima wants to develop for the most powerful console and chose the PS3 for MGS4 when he also seems to be preparing development for the 360. Someone said he feels obligated to give Sony MGS4 because they set up his studio but that seems a little far fetched. Maybe they just payed for the game... as usuall.

Naughty dogs makes sony games,Itagaki makes xbox games and call the xbox360 the console that will be the best.
Remember he said that in late 2005.
He didn' t like the ps3,but that doesnt mean its truth,just what he liked or thinked,and ofc he dev for xbox camp.

See the trend here?
Naughty dogs and Team ninja has their fanbase at diffrent camps,why would they say A is crap if they dev and sell to B,when the fanbase is at B who buys their games.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I dont have to admit anything, especially not based on your assumptions. Naughty Dog is a company like any other who makes games. And when these people give the ps3 credit, im not gonna convince myself they are sitting there and lying.

Maybe you think sony pays them extra money to say only good things about them? And that they are lying their ass off, and creates their successfull titles for a machine they hate programming to?

Well...when carmack said working for ps3 is gonna be a pain in the ass,it was because he dev and release 360 titles...

Now im confused...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Oh I see, you' re one of those guys that just takes in all the corporate crap you hear without being at least a little sceptical. Great.

TT :P

No he is a kitase fanboy!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Hey Quez! It says you joined Kikizo July 16th 2005?
That' s the day when I joined too! Cool!
But you' ve managed to make twice as many posts... Am I lazy?

Yes :)

My life > yours.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

nice way to raise the number of your posts
like what i just did ...

Abo,seen rouge galaxy yet?
I want it >_<

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

looks pretty awesome !!

right now i' m playing Dreamfall: the longest journey so far i love the game..

Same here,i finished it for some days ago,was a 9/10 for me,cant understand how many reviewers trash it,gamespy gaved it 5/5 saying if you expect anything else then a perfect interactive film,you will be dissaapointed,and i agree.

The story is 10/10.
And its like a movie you want to follow.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Cetra! Most people who think they Xbox 360 is just as good as the PS3, even excels in some area' s like graphics, are we all mistaking?

yes, if something is better then its better

also, the xbox hardware is pretty standard but very good hardware, however, the cell is a highly advanced piece of hardware with much more mini functions than the xbox has.

developers say they have only scratched the surface of what ps3 can do, and by time, games will look far far better on ps3 when its prioritated right in the programming.

already they look somewhat better, but this will take off, especially with the physics, the cell is a processor designed especially for physics, the xbox just has raw power, which is not grouped or designed for anything special, just power to take advantage of, and all power will be powering things together, not powering things individually as well as the cell does

its like with xbox, " how big can i draw this" but with the ps3 is it more like " how well can i draw this"

Is xbox standard?
Is multi thread processors with 3 core standard?

Hello?

Is havin the best GPU ATI could make for 360 standard for a console?
And yes,its better then ps3.

I think its funny how every dev talk about ps3 as much raw power,thats much harder to take advantage of.
And you say xbox has just raw power.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

multithreading between two processors is normal, 3 is just a build on that, however, multithreading between 7 cores withing one own processor is non standard

the rsx is the best nvidia could make, and they are no less good than ati


oh and besides, hideo kojima has credited the cell processor for being genious. he did it in the 2005 mgs 4 trailer

There is a diffrence,as majik said,and ATI ceo,and what dev has said.

Sony basically said,what can we have- for that many 7800 gts 256mb,ofc in early days it was 6800 but nvm.

While MS said,dev the best GPU you can,ATI people never got asked,we want that for that much,therefor they could dev a better GPU a stronbger one.

Ofc dev has so far said its,Slightly better,while ATI claims its much better.

Yes i use myself 2 processers,but GABE,said while having 3 core,its much much much harder to dev for console games,cause you have to transfer it into the console with cores speaking diffrent language.

he said this.

If dev a xbox/ps2 game is today a 1/10.

Then 360 is 4/10
And ps3 will be 10/10.
Thanks to cell.

Carmack said it will be a pain in the ass to dev for cell.

So basically you have Half life,and doom,quake and wolfenstein creators saying Cell is not easy to work or dev for.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

nvidia said more than twice as powerful as 6800gt,
i have 7800 gtx, even overclocked, and the rsx is still more powerful.
the onlye more powerful cards are the new flagships from them both

yes RSX is a bit better then the 7800 gts 256mb
While xeno' s can be compared to a X1800xt 512mb.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

The Cell is a very advanced and powerful processor but it hasn' t been optimized for videogames and developers will have a hard time using it to it' s full potential. The 360 on the other hand is 100% custom made specifically for videgames which will make it easy for developers to create great games. Maybe the Cell will make the PS3 slightly more powerful in the distant future but the years to come the 360 will have the advantage.
As for graphics the 360 is much better. The GPU in the PS3 is very powerful BUT it' s still a normal GPU with counterparts in the PC world, although it is much more powerful. The 360 has a next-gen GPU with no equal.
This has been said by most tech-people and several developers.
Oh and Microsoft of course but they don' t count.

when its better than 7800, then 1800 would be its counterpart

PS3 :
GPU: RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)

Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz


Xbox:
Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture


Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture


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As you can see, the ps3 has the same ammount of ram, but on the one brick, it runs at 3.2 ghz and therefor has faster memory than the 360


You can see the RSX runs at 50 mhz more.

Now you' re doing exactly the same thing Sony did at their 2005 E3 press conference. Showing numbers which means nothing. On paper the PS3 looks more powerful but it really doesn' t show anything. As I said, both the CPU and the GPU in the PS3 are very powerful but the overall structure of the PS3 doesn' t allow efficient use of the power in an easy way, especially not for videogames.
It' s not only about the separate components, it' s how they work together, and that' s what the 360 is better than the PS3 at.

sure sure, 3.2 ghz ram isnt better than 700 mhz ram right :)
no point in using numbers and mathematics since they obviously don' t work

XBox used a cpu with 733 mhz 64mb ram and geeforce 3 64mb 3d card.

Try get a PC like that and play Half life2 or doom3 on it.
Also the core' s running at 3.2ghz should not be compare to anything near a pc cpu.
Or do you actually think ps3 is a 7x3.2 ghz?
22,4 ghz CPU?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

no, and the entire purpose of cell is exactly this, to define the role of cores withing a cpu, rather than just putting more cpus in so you have enough power to care less

cetra, I' m a computer science major, I' ve built shitloads of computers, have studied computer architecture and hardware, and countless other things.

It is easy to tell you have no idea what you are talking about.

Xbox 360 is superior to PS3. If you really want to find out why search through previous topics in this forum.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

as far as i know about the trend in this forum and with all sony haters, most people didn' t dare to say that 360 is superior than ps3 (hardware), as far as i know some people here say that it' ll take them time to push ps3 to the limit since it is harder to program for...but overall power ps3 is better

but you' re saying something different i suppose... well wait and see
so me first gen ps3 look much better than first gen x360, but i remember very well those pictures from Project gotham racing 3, and so far nobody of you 360owners would comment on this:

do you remember those two building that Blizzard have showed off and said it was ingame, now that some of you played the game, is it true that could see buildings of these quality?? please answer

Rather than blindly debate about which is better between the PS3 and Xbox 360 how about we all just wait till E3!!!

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Yes, the buildings are exactly like that in game. They actually showed wireframe screen shots of those buildings in the game as well since people wouldn' t believe it was in game graphics.

btw its Bizarre not Blizzard

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."