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10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 04:15
So to break from all the PS3 Topics, I think this will do nicely.


10 years down the line [or next next generation assmueing ps3/360/wii are current] how do you expect games evolved, since each generation passes the graphical differance, while noticable, is becomeing less and less.

Who do you expect to be Market leader? Any new Companys? And exits [like sega]? will all games be avaible to download beside the launch? Will the new Graphics/sound matter now? will The Unreal engine 5 on Ps5 look that close to reality? How will they Play? How will they controll?

How will Games Change?
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 04:24
All I expect from every generation is quite simple good games that make you laugh, think or simply have fun. As for who will be the market leader I won' t even attempt to make a guess or assumption but I think it' s going to be down to which feels most comfortable, easilly accessed and easier to upkeep.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 05:09
Sony will lead the market, just like they have since they started.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 05:35
I think lots of development studios will merge due to higher development costs.
Big publishers like EA and Sega will pretty much publish all titles except games on the Wii and its successor since Nintendo keeps the small developers happy.
Sony will still be No1 but only after a slow start in the 360/Wii/PS3 war. The success is mostly thanks to the japanese market. But Microsoft will be pretty close, almost tied, with bigger sales than Sony in the U.S. Nintendo will make a success with the Wii as most buyers will buy it as a complement to the other two consoles and casual gamers will choose the Wii of course.
The generation after the Wii60PS3 generation will give Sony the lead again as they' ve learned from their mistakes with the PS3. Nintendo will keep going the same direction with the Wii-successor but this time they think they' re ready for HD. Microsoft takes the final step in combining PC' s and consoles and makes some kind fo strange hybrid that does really good. Both Sony and MS are forced to innovate their successors as the Wii-successor now has powerful graphics. Graphics won' t be the focus as it can' t get much better. Microsoft will release a handheld but it will be as popular as the Gamecube was compared to the PS2/Xbox. In the end Sony might end up as a powerful leader with Nintendo and Microsoft trying to beat them. But Sony won' t have a big lead.
I could imagine some kind of Nintendo-Microsoft cooperation that would disrupt Sony' s lead though.
That was just my pure imagination. Probably won' t happen. I' m bad at predictions.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 06:37
Why would they learn from PS3 if they didn' t learn from PS2? Even better ,what would they learn from PS2? That they will succed no matter what crap they release?

PS2 is crap comparing to both GCN and Xbox , but it walks all over both of them in terms of sales.It' s all about brand - they had it with PSX and that saved PS2 - which then turned out to be even cooler than PSX was.Now PS3 - more hype , more lies , more units sold.


I honestly can' t see anyone stopping those motherfuckers anytime soon.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 06:38
The PS2 was released long before the GCN and the XBox so Nintendo and MS had plenty of time to improve on the PS2.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 06:43
Actually I' ve had this idea about insane future graphics.
Gosh its gonna sound stupid, but it evolves around 3d scanning of actual live objects, so you can use real people to play with.
Kind of controll film if you get me. Nothing or atleast characters wont be drawn anymore, but captured and programmed into a game.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 06:49
That' s a good idea. It reminds me of the thing at the Aichi world fair where you scanned your face before watching a movie and in the movie all the characters had faces from the audience. That will probably work much better with videogames so that' s really something that might happen.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 06:57
yes, and not only that, 3d scanners are a technology that really begins to bloom within industry that requires it. This technology has far more potential and I just hope someone sees it.

I remember som really old golf game I played on pc, where the golfplayer was an animation that was put together by stillframes of a real person. It was the same moves all the time, but the idea was good, and it was super realistic because basically, you controlled a real life character there.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 07:13
3D Scanning surely will have a place in the future of gaming. It will be one method of the various ways in which we will see user-generated content.

User generated content I' m sure will be a big buzz for the next Next Gen. We' ve already seen it take a foothold on the 360: Upload your own music to make your own soundtracks, universal control settings and other user preferences...

After all, in 10 years time, prettier graphics won' t be a draw any more. Each and every console will already offer photorealism. So the industry is going to have to start thinking outside the box.

Like Sony did with the EyeToy, and how Nintendo have taken it to the next level with the Wiimote.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 07:20
Squaresoft also made a beautiful example of how this will all look. They shot Gackt in livemotion and insterted him in a cgi film, and even made him hold a 3d person, and it all looked perfect.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 08:29
10 years from now Sony will not be doing consoles anymore! The PS3 will be the start of their downfall, as the price is prohibitive to most casual consumers. 360 and Wii will both command about 40 percent of the gaming market, with the PS3 taking the last 20.

With the downfall of the PS3, Blu-ray will also falter, and then die, with HD-DVD becoming the industry standard.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 09:01
Amen!

But seriously,even though i belived xbox360 had no chance vs ps3,i actually do that now.
The price tag and not having something to counter xbox360 AAA titles and price and while gamers know xbox360+wii will cost as much or even lesser then a ps3.

They are in serious trouble,i doubt they will lose their fanbase,but a part of it will probably leave them.

I predict something like...

40% for ps3
30% for xbox360
30% for nintendo wii.

I would never have done that before,but sony and their blu-ray is really putting them in problem...

If they didnt use blu-ray and took a normal price on their ps3,you would have seen something like 60% of the marketshare.



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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 09:52
Ive got this feeling (and ive had it way before E3), that Wii will be the most successful and will have the highest sales.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 11:50
I remember hearing Nintendo saying about how they hoped one day to have console games that could somehow project the entire environment in a room Let' s hope that they keep that dream alive. They could be the first console developers to bring about technology like that!

Otherwise, I can' t really think that far ahead, but I think we' ll see a divergence from merely 3D graphic posturing, to something more essential to the gameplay.

An example is the jump from the SNES era, to the PSX and Dreamcast era aka the advent of 3D games. It wasn' t just about the visuals, it was the jump in the entire basis of video games from that point on. 3-Dimensional movement and psuedo freedom produced an entire new experience for gamers playing those 2D sprites.

So, tie in with Nintendo' s speculations, that would seem the logical next step. Bringing that virutal 3D environment even closer to the gamer

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 12:07
what i thought will come to game generation hasn' t change a bit.they all look the samething i mean the graphics,when will they do different thing from now n i don' t thing so either cuz from now to 10yrs it will like that
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 17:21
In 10 years I' ll be 29... *sigh*

...With that thought in my head I am now depressed and can' t think of games for the moment.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 17:37

In 10 years I' ll be 29... *sigh*

...With that thought in my head I am now depressed and can' t think of games for the moment.


nothing like a quarter-life crisis! i had one myself at 21!
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 17:43
I also think the Wii will do the best. Especially if the current predictions that it will become most gamers " second console" (a prediction stated even by reps from MS and Sony). If that happens, then Nintendo' s marketshare will be enormous.

EDIT: Oooh, VxChemical is aging himself, reminiscing about his " quarter-life crisis." ...and he' s a SENIOR member of the forums.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 18:38
Im 26 years old, with a daugther and a house, im an old man!

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 18:54


ORIGINAL: Dionysius

In 10 years I' ll be 29... *sigh*

...With that thought in my head I am now depressed and can' t think of games for the moment.


Me too...*dreads to think hitting 30*. (@vx) nah 26 isn' t old at all but when you have children I could imagine how old it must make you feel. Also I think in order for the wii to do well people will have to be entirely convinced and what worries me is how nintendo always starts off with the most promise but somehow falls by the waist line a little (Imo).

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 18:57
I dont really get people being so upset about the price.
Thing is, thats exactly what the PS2 launch price was, atleast here in my country. So I will spend the same ammount on ps3 as i did on ps2.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 18:58
That' s nice.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 22:22
Cetra, where do you live?


Im 26 years old, with a daugther and a house, im an old man!

That' s not so old, mister.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 22:39
Norway, and on launch of PS2 here, it costed exactly 600 dollars too, (abit above 5000 kroner)

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 22:51
Yep, I will be 29 in 10 years time as well..

Hopefully, I will have accomplished the four games I wanted to release before then...


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1. Never tell all you know.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 22:59


ORIGINAL: Cetra

Norway, and on launch of PS2 here, it costed exactly 600 dollars too, (abit above 5000 kroner)



That' s the first iv' e heard (but what do I know), i' m just thinking considering the ps2' s launch price was $368, but then again I do remember someone from norway saying he bought his ps2 for 4500kroner, but I highly doubt the ps3 is going to be exactly the same when everything' s converted unless you have a majical taxing system.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 23:24
As expected from one of the worlds most expensive country.

By the way…

”Varför har du rakat dig i nacken?”, frågade svensken.
Och norrmannen svarade: ”Hoppsan, jag har visst satt skjortan bak och fram.”

And in English…

“Why have you shaved your neck? “, asked the Swede.
And the Norwegian answered: “Whoops. I’ve apparently put my shirt on backwards.

And to explain this silly joke, it’s just that I’m a Swede and we have a lot of Norway jokes (none are funny), just as the Norwegians have Swede jokes, similar to the English jokes about the Irish. Also sorry for posting the joke in Swedish as well. I' m just fullfilling my task as " the Greek guy" .

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 23:36
ps2 costed ca 5000-5500 kronor when it came to sweden.
Even then many thought that was sick...
xbox360 premium costed 3500-3700 kronor.
And Nes costed around 2000,same with MEGA drive and Ps1.

Ofc currecny change but...
Today you can get a ps2 for like 1400 kronor,and btw 600 euro=750 dollar.
And 750 dollar=5600 kronor,and remember sweden has some of the highest taxes in the world thanks to our goverment.
So expect around 6000 :S
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 23:45
6000kr would be a lot I think infact that would be even more expensive than the uk' s £425=$793=5,787kr (according to currency converter).
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 23:56

Original: QuezcatoL
ps2 costed ca 5000-5500 kronor when it came to sweden.


I got mine at release for under 4500 kroner. However 4500 kroners today represents just about 5000, which indeed is a lot of money. But then again... *points finger in direction of Eritrea* Think of all the starving children, when complaining ' bout how expensive things are.

Edit:
Oh! And I wern' t trying to be cocky.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 24, 2006 23:58
My brother,dennis worked at karolinska institutet as a summer job,he got 18000 when he was done,the store we checked in took 5100 kronor :S
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:03


Im not gonna pay 5600 kronor+ for this kind of graphic or game at launch.

Perhaps my brother will do,but not me,.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:05
Your brothers name is Dennis, huh? Coincidence, as so is mine. And this Dennis bought his Ps2 for 4500 kr.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:07
:)

I bought my xbox for 3300 kronor btw.
Btw,xbox costed 5500 kronor at launch.
However it just took 2-3 weeks until the price was lowered with 2000 kronor.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:18

Im not gonna pay 5600 kronor+ for this kind of graphic or game at launch.


What you talking about Quez?? That games absolutely mind-blowing (Woah!)

PGR eat your heart out..

10 years down the line, games will definitely look like the FMV' s we see, with
a more or less perfect draw distance..
Everything will be full interactive and have substance.

Sony will show off the Dual Shock 4, it changes hot to cold from time to time.
(Coincidentally, Microsoft will unveil before that, that their control pad heats
up after prolonged use and cools down when left alone..)

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:22
I also got the Xbox fro 3300, I only waited as I originally didn' t intend to get one. But then I saw that the Shenmue license had been bought by Microsoft and then I HAD to get one, so I could just as well by one as soon as I heard that, which also would let me play that Halo game which I back then was very interested in.
Unfortunately I have to admit that I wasn’t all impressed with Halo (although I did enjoy the multiplayer) and all in all I actually feel disappointed in the Xbox now that its era has ended (mostly because I never saw the light of Shenmue III for it ). My two favourite exclusive games for it is Panzer Dragon Orta and Dead or Alive 3, and the best games I have for it is Shenmue II and Beyond Good & Evil and I guess those games is what makes it worth owning one for me. But that’s alright, because I really like those games.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:23
To be fair it actually looks like this



:)

But nowhere close to what ppl thought of what sony showed last year...







Now a lot of people knew from the start it was CGI,as i ,however we dont have a mission to convert and try to put that into sony fanboys head,instead they see what they see when its out,but what pissed me off what i loved about motstorm was the sense of speed and not having control in the race,its looks totally awesome in the crazyness,however that was far from what we saw.

Instead monstertrucks racing in MUd...very slow.
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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 00:32
I kinda liked motor storm cos it reminded me of buggy heat the terrain and scenery, i' m just wondering why it' s gone a little quiet.

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RE: 10 Years Down The Line - May 25, 2006 04:44
I don’t like to sound exaggerating or anything and the game definitely doesn’t look bad, but the difference in those images almost look as big as the difference between this first generation 360 games and last generation of Xbox games… Disappointed. But oh well, good thing I’m not all that into rally and racing games. *Phew*

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