GTA4

Rockstar says that Gta4 is coming out at the same time on PS3 and 360. Since PS3 has Bluray and 360 uses DVD that means either the ps3 one will be underpowered or the 360 one will have to go over several discs. I know microsoft are making an HDDVD drive but whens that coming out?

that drive for the 360 isnt supposed to play games.

Here' s what I think. The Xbox was significantly more powerful than the PS2, but how often did games really look waaay better on Xbox. Usually it was just smoother textures but the same graphic engine. My guess is that we' re going to see the same similarity but only flip flopped now. With developers having more time with the 360, the PS3 models will probably be only slightly improved from 360 games.

the PS3 models will probably be only slightly improved from 360 games.

What is it with people that think PS3 is superior to 360?!

It isn' t. Even developers have said it isn' t. Hell, Sony ALWAYS overstate and underperform, that' s just what they do.

Technically 360 beats PS3 hands down in almost every single area, and with it' s 1 years advantage and 7 month XNA advantage, there won' t be a single PS3 game in the first 6 months of it' s shelf life that looks better than 360 games that come out at the same time.

PS3 isn' t what Sony have cracked it up to be. I had thought everybody had started to realise that by now, but obviously some naive folks are still under the impression that Sony were telling the truth when they said that 360 was just Xbox 1.5.



Oh, and GTA fucking sucks. I don' t think there' s a single self-respecting member of these forums who actually like the games, ...and even if they do, they' d never admit it!

360 has a better 3d card.
Ps3 has a better Cpu.

And what does dev say?
No diffrence for them.

When you melt that you got basically the same stuff in terms of gflops,however you have to take advantage of cell and 360' s graphic card in diffrent ways.
Im no dev but thats what they say.

About blu-ray,feel free to tell me which game will req 9gb of space.
If not using HD CGI,and we all know how much GTA serie use them.

hahaha .

There you have it,bye!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: Insanity Prawn Boy

Since PS3 has Bluray and 360 uses DVD that means either the ps3 one will be underpowered or the 360 one will have to go over several discs.

Don' t confuse storage space with power. I don' t think Rockstar will have even
had the time to make a gta game that actually REQUIRES the amount of space available on Bluray.


...can i call u crazy shrimp boy?

Oh, and GTA fucking sucks. I don' t think there' s a single self-respecting member of these forums who actually like the games, ...and even if they do, they' d never admit it!

I like GTA. Why are you bashing me?

No, just because I' m relatively new does not mean I don' t count either.

I say to each one' s own. That said, you will NEVER catch me playing a GTA clone. Those games always suck, because GTA is the only one that can make a solid and thorough experience. Hey, I see that! You are muttering that it is a thorough turd! Don' t think you can hide that from me!

That being said, GTA is quite low on the priority of games to play. If any more interesting title comes out, I usually pick the other game first.

Compared to many other titles I rent to get a sense of value over, GTA is not bad. I mean, the new Pacman World games are far superior in being turds than GTA manages. Pokemon now drives me up the wall, and heck, even Radiata Stories really bombed. I could not believe I cleared Radiata over a rental period... and to top it off, the plot derails as soon as you are expelled. (I won' t elaborate that here - some people might not have played it yet)

You are right in one thing though - there are epic, must own games out there, and GTA 3/VC/SA are not among them, but they do come close to being bottom of the best. The cream is reserved for titles like Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Ninja Gaiden: Black, Final Fantasy 8, Disgaea and Disgaea 2....

I' ll still check out, play, and quite probably own GTA4 when it comes out. However, I' m looking forward to other titles like Crysis more.

You wa Shock!!!

GTA has always been a chav' s game to me....

I prefer the 2-d one' s because they were amusing and entertaining and then
they tried to put a story on mindless violence and we were left with a couple of
bad Soprano touches and a very poor incarnation of Scarface.

GTA is good if you want to do mindless things, I have honestly only played Vice
City for about an hour, and I played until my bounty couldn' t go any higher; and
I had everyone chasing me. The novelty wears thin so quickly...

Rockstar says that Gta4 is coming out at the same time on PS3 and 360.

*cough* link?

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I played Vice City for the music, but i like story lines in games, and GTA is sooo boring!

Oh, and GTA fucking sucks. I don' t think there' s a single self-respecting member of these forums who actually like the games, ...and even if they do, they' d never admit it!

damn right

About space - I don' t think it' s that easy to make a GTA game on several discs since the whole game world is accesible non stop.

For some RPG or action game it could be possible , but it' s like making a VF game on 2 disks.

Anyway - it' s impossible for a crap like gta to go over 9 GB - unless ofcourse they force it to take more space.

The GTA games are simply pathetic. They appeal only to complete retards, just like the Need For Speed games.

I' d like to meet and slap the guys who actually make the games!

Need for Speed is also for people from Blackpool,

who plays that when they have Burnout....

Wait...

Burnout' s a chicks game as well...

GTA is for people with sh!t for brains..

Well I just hate it to be honest..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I know a lot of people that play the gta series simply because you can beat up hookers (and other people) run from the law and.......well really be a commoner I don' t mind the series but what I hate about it is how it looks inferior to other games in terms of graphics even movie games.

I think the GTA games are extremely overrated but I think they' re kind of fun, but not for long though. I get bored of them very fast.
And if you' ve played one of them you' ll never need to play another one.
In my opinion they' re just mediocre crime/action games. Some fun elements but in the end they have too many faults to be really good games.

Calling the games pathetic and saying only retards play them is a little too hard but I guess that' s the way you' d expect Majikdra6on to comment on something he doesn' t like .

I say what i' m thinking and don' t mind offending people.

I enjoyed the topdown original way back when because whilst completely inferior to other games of the time it had a novel approach to it and i was young enough to think that it was funny.

GTA3 was a huge technical achievement for a console game, and the same could be said for Liberty City Stories on PSP, but the content of the games is just stupid. The missions aren' t even interesting and the premise is obviously questionable.

I can' t quite understand why somebody would want to actually play a GTA game when there are far more rewarding titles out there. Funnily enough, it' s because of GTA (and other BETTER games) that Sony have done so well and have such a vast install base. I' m not looking forward to GTA4 though, even if it is being released on 360 before PS3.

I actually don' t like any GTA clone. I thought The Getaway was retarded too!

ORIGINAL: ginjirou
Calling the games pathetic and saying only retards play them is a little too hard but I guess that' s the way you' d expect Majikdra6on to comment on something he doesn' t like .

Yup....somehow I don' t see majic saying ' ' I distinctly express a distaste for this game due to the fact that it lacks the type of story, game play or even look that I expect from a next generation...I think it' s absolutely atrosious' ' . As impetuous as they are sometimes I like Majic' s comments they make me laugh and it' s raw honesty (which I respect).


By the way if gta was a huge part in sony' s success what does that say?.

I just think it' s too bad if Majik' s honest comments scare other people so much that they don' t dare to say what they really think. Some new potential new members might even give up the idea of joining when they see his hard attitude. Not getting along with Majik isn' t fun.
I mean, he' s like a big brother in this forums so...

I' m far from the worst offender!

I quite like GTAs awkward sense of humour and style. Rockstar have always been one of my favourite dev houses, especially with titles such as Manhunt. GTA has never been about graphics, and the story is meant to be just a series of satirical jokes. Of course it wasn' t popular for these reasons, it was popular cos kids like to blow stuff up. But that was all part of the joke. It had to be.

GTA' s gameplay was fresh for the first few, but still I have to say I have no interest whatsoever atm in GTA4, even if they do think of something else fun to take the piss out of. So.. think of something else Rockstar (like table tennis or something!)

Well who cares about majik' s comments and if they scare off newbies. It is just his opinion (if not a little harsh now and again) and often he has very good posts, and sometimes he actually surprises me.... but Back on topic.

GTA, to me it is a game to play for 5 minutes and enjoy only for music. Get a tank destroy things, get 5 star wanted. Turn the game off. This was back then vice city came out. The games do suck. GTA is something that even if someone offered me the game for free, I' d have a tough time to accept (and then only to ebay ), most certainly wouldn' t be found playing it.

It' s high time Rockstar either do something good with the series to make it at least respectable, mildly decent game. And sort out, what I think is a really crap control system, with very unengaging story, and characters.

Let' s bring about the death of GTA, once and for all.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

My brother and me share the exact game taste,however he loves GTA i hate it.

Dont get me wrong, i think it was cool driving in vice city with 80' s music,that was a 9/10 moment for me,but it got quickly boring,and i never really digged the missions,however i do get that many does that.

However i always said i think GTA has sold on how media and parents has reacted to it.
Yes im probably wrong but thats how i think...its a nice game serie i would give it 7-8/10.

Before someone ask why i would give GTA a 8 if i hate it,is because the control,graphic and sound is worth it.
Even if i hate it i have to acknowledge it works great.
And basically deliver what its selling on.

I dont bash pokemon for thinking its to childish,when i know what audience it seek,even if i at 15and 16 played pokemon gameboy,and know it sells millions of copies to adults aslo.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

I' m far from the worst offender!

Correct but you are the only respected offender. With great power comes great responsibility .

With great power comes great responsibility

Why can' t i remember where that' s from?!

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

With great power comes great responsibility

Why can' t i remember where that' s from?!

Some movie named spider.....something. Anyway I kinda agree with the newbie thing it' s always daunting being the new guy especially if you' re jumped on soon without having a feel for the place.

GTA sells consoles here in the UK, with PS3 losing exclusive rights to it, its a major
blow.

We have in the UK what you call " chavs" and " cockneys" who don' t have half a
brain to pick up a console for some of their more compelling titles, and
unfortunately, they dominate half of the population. Yes there are people that buy
consoles just for the Pro Evo games and the GTA' s, which were 2 main perks to
buy a PS console in the past, but with Microsoft getting both first; that' s gonna
sting.

Im glad that R* are branching out to violent sports like table tennis, and are
showing that they can develop other games apart from GTA.

In my opinion, GTA is as boring as Final Fantasy (whilst FF has a richer storyline)
at the core they both play the exact same as their predecessors which leads
to boring unexplored gameplay territories.

But for other people that dont know what happens when Squaresoft try and
branch out and do different IP' s, it' s not a pretty site..

The Bouncer?[:' (]

Driving Emotion Type-S?[:' (][:' (][:' (] (Square trying a racing game? WTF?)

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

We have in the UK what you call " chavs" and " cockneys" who don' t have half a brain to pick up a console for some of their more compelling titles, and unfortunately, they dominate half of the population.

Cockney is a term used to describe people from London. It just so happens that Adam is from London....

Vagrant story,parasite eve,chrono trigger/cross,and kingdomhearts.

btw for 360 they gonna do a action shooter in space...i hope it will be good O_o...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Cockney is a term used to describe people from London.

There are people with cockney accnts in London, but it' s not used to describe
people from London....

Or...

....if that is so, I have pretty much shot myself in the foot. (Being from London
and all ^O_o^

btw for 360 they gonna do a action shooter in space...i hope it will be good O_o...

Anything that is not within a hair strand of RPG essence for Square turns out
rubbish.... Square doing a shooter?? At most I reckon it will look pretty and
play like crap, have too much boring story, and somehow they will incorporate
magic into it... They will always go back to FF roots, remember The Bouncer?
I could swear the way it began was in a train station..

FFVII anyone?

There is no way Kingdom Hearts would have seen the light of day and the
mass success it has achieved if it didn' t have the Final Fantasy characters in it
to relate to..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

Parasite eve...
was not a normal rpg.
But yes,they are RPG dev at the core.
But who knows...
i never thought bungie could do fps after myst :P

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I' m from london and I ain' t cockney govner....but yea it is a bit of a chavvy game...

I would call you a cockney. I' m from Manchester.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

I would call you a cockney. I' m from Manchester.

The weird thing is, is that most of the hardcore cockney speaking people I know are builders, mechanics or police oh even a dental practicionner, but it' s not really that cockney where I live, which means my cockney accent never realy sees the light of day too much.

The GTA games are just a bunch of complete shitacular games thrown into one big game to make it seem really big. All it is is a big pile of Ultrasaurus poo.

controls for shooting are complete shit, controls for driving are complete shit, controls for movement are complete shit, graphics are complete shit, the whole game is complete shit

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

The GTA games are just a bunch of complete shitacular games thrown into one big game to make it seem really big. All it is is a big pile of Ultrasaurus poo.

controls for shooting are complete shit, controls for driving are complete shit, controls for movement are complete shit, graphics are complete shit, the whole game is complete shit

Why don' t you tell us how you REALLY feel?

I' ve been loving loco' s posts lately!

The GTA games are simply pathetic. They appeal only to complete retards, just like the Need For Speed games.

Hey, just because I' m not jaded, does not mean you can insult my intelligence.

GTA is for people with sh!t for brains..

....

And if you' ve played one of them you' ll never need to play another one.
In my opinion they' re just mediocre crime/action games. Some fun elements but in the end they have too many faults to be really good games.

That, is more like it. Jeez, the previous two comments really puts my blood into a boil. Try to keep your opinions of others and your opinions about games separate.

Yes, the mission objectives in Grand Theft Auto is downright stupid. It is mindless. Such things are fun for a while, but they do get boring quick. GTA is not Rockstar' s worst offender though. State of Emergency was a very pathetic game. Could not play longer than 5 whole minutes. The Warriors was not that great, despite the decent reviews for it. Similar things can be said for flight games like Ace Combat or Afterburner to that effect, in that the mission variety really does not vary at all. Heck, Outrun 2 (and SP) qualifies as a similar game. I can put many more games on the same tier as the GTA series. I' ll keep them to myself, though.

Anything that is not within a hair strand of RPG essence for Square turns out
rubbish.... Square doing a shooter?? At most I reckon it will look pretty and
play like crap, have too much boring story, and somehow they will incorporate
magic into it... They will always go back to FF roots, remember The Bouncer?
I could swear the way it began was in a train station..

Einhander, anyone? That game kicked MAJOR ass.

The $600 dollar question is, if GTA 4 was an exclusive title for the PS3, would I go out of my way to buy the PS3 for that? NO F$%^@#% WAY!

Now, if you' ll excuse me, I' ll paint Majikdra6on and locopuyo' s avatars, tape it onto a punching bag, and beat the hell out of it... nah, I' m too lazy.

You wa Shock!!!

i don' t want to hear of that game anymore it isn' t good for inocent guys like us

hello friends today

Innocent? Really?

You wa Shock!!!

i don' t want to hear of that game anymore it isn' t good for inocent guys like us

I don' t believe we forced you into this thread. I mean, we wouldn' t want to corrupt you, or anything...

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

That, is more like it. Jeez, the previous two comments really puts my blood into a boil. Try to keep your opinions of others and your opinions about games separate.

Ooooohhhhh, sorry Mr i' ve only been here 3 weeks!!!!

As i' ve said before, we' ll do as we please and if we do something wrong the staff will notify us.

Now, if you' ll excuse me, I' ll paint Majikdra6on and locopuyo' s avatars, tape it onto a punching bag, and beat the hell out of it... nah, I' m too lazy.

Do you even have a punch bag?! Do you even have the right colours of paint?! Do you have tape?!

loco' s comment was pure genius! It can' t just be me that sees it...

controls for shooting are complete shit, controls for driving are complete shit, controls for movement are complete shit, graphics are complete shit, the whole game is complete shit

There are no lies there, not even an overstatement. The game it rubbish in every sense, and that' s just the visuals and ingame mechanics, -- when you take into account the idiotic stuff the game has you do, the awful dialogue, useless animation, the amount of glitches and bugs present and the super-uber immature content, -- it' s retarded.

quote:

controls for shooting are complete shit, controls for driving are complete shit, controls for movement are complete shit, graphics are complete shit, the whole game is complete shit


There are no lies there, not even an overstatement. The game it rubbish in every sense, and that' s just the visuals and ingame mechanics, -- when you take into account the idiotic stuff the game has you do, the awful dialogue, useless animation, the amount of glitches and bugs present and the super-uber immature content, -- it' s retarded.

ahmen

NiGHTS into Dreamcast