PS3 more powerfull than Gaming Pc' s?

" The PS3 will jump out ahead in hardware performance, but the PC isn' t far behind. Nvidia replaced the GeForce 6800 Ultra with the much more powerful GeForce 7800 GTX last summer. It turns out that the RSX and GeForce 7800 GTX share a similar architecture, but the RSX is still slightly faster. Nvidia has since released its GeForce 7900 GTX refresh part, but the PlayStation 3 still has an advantage in that the entire system is built specifically for gaming instead of general processing."

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125429/p-2.aspx

if that is true, then it would put on par with top of the range gaming pc' s, which is nice, and what you expect for the 500 price.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

The thing is that Sony still chose an off the shelf card. Their GPU isn' t as advanced as 360' s but they have a slight advantage in the processor department.

It' s all well documented.

Oh, and GameSpot will only say nice things about PSP for the ame reason IGN will. They have deals with Sony for Playstation HUB.

360 and PS3 will eventually output roughly the same quality of visuals but 360 will achieve the better results quicker and it' l take a while for devs to get the most out of PS3.

PS3 HASN' T been built as a games machine and that what people like John Carmack have been complaining about. Sony even screwed up the memory allocation and have a processor that has a horrile yield (they' re making more faulty chips than usable ones).

It' ll work for games, that' s a given, but it wasn' t built for that purpose. They weren' t even going to have a GPU at all and were going to render everything using multiple CELL processors but it didn' t work properly.

slight ???????????????????????????
better gpu ???????????????????????
are you drunk or something ????????????????????????
or an xbox fun ??? i bet you are.
anyway just kidding for the drunk ok ?
cpu ps3 = 1cpu x8 spu (all 3.2 ghz) working together = 2 teraflops
cpu 360 = 3 cpu 3.2 ghz = 1 teraflop
gpu 360 = custom made from ati ? they dont say what exacly but its sure worst than
the last ati before november right. (they dont have a future machine i supposed
to bring the new ati huh? anyway...)
gpu ps3 = nvidia 7800 gtx (rsx) that blows away the last ati (not the 512 version )
mem 512 mb each but sonys are faster...
last sonys games uses hhd because has it from start.
360 not ....and that forced dev to streaming data right from dvd (result framerate issues)
its natural everything that its made 1 year later or above its better for sure
in tech dep

NO the latest ATI card (even the 512 mo) is better than 7800 GTX , this is already a fact.

what reallly really worries me is that xbox360 has some slowdowns in games like oblivion, or quake 4 (slowdowns or look less impressive)

Saberwolf, you are an idot.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Its already been said by dev that 360' s gpu is strongher.which i said many times,however ps3 has cell as their cpu O_o

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

You sound like a complete fucking retard. I know my way around gaming and PC hardware.

You evidently have NO grasp of the technical specifications and have read into the pompus Sony bullshit about the machine having a floating point peak performance of 2 Teraflops.

It' s bullshit.

The 7 available SPE' s (the eighth is reserved and it' s not SPU) can only do single calculations with very simple data. They' re directly attatched to the PPE and so are clocked accordingly, but that doesn' t mean that you multiply 7 by 3.2GHz and add the cores 3.2GHz to get 25.6GHz! That isn' t how it works.

CELL only has slight advantages over Xenon in that Xenon has 3 general purpose cores (they do most of the work) and CELL only has one. CELL can calculate things slightly quicker by giving simple tasks to the SPE' s and letting the PPE handle the big data loads but it' s only a minimal difference.

As for the GPU. The custom built card in 360 is based on technology that isn' t even on the market yet. Microsot paid a shitload of money and even had it built to thier requirements so that it interfaces perfectly with XNA and DX10. RSX on the other hand is a slightly modified retail card and Sony picked it up in a " how many can we get for £x" fashion. 360 has a sizable GPU advantage.

Sony fucked up their memory allocation by giving the CPU and GPU 256Mb respectively that could be split any way other than all, half or nothing. RSX can render the entire 512 but it can' t just take what it needs, it has to take all of it or nothing. Microsoft made it so they had 512 that could be shared between the 2 as the developer required. So if a dev needs an extra 13Mb then it can take 13Mb.

mem 512 mb each but sonys are faster...

That' s a fucking lie. Not even Sony are claiming that!

As it stands, 360 has an additional 10Mb of extremely fast eDRAM which is specifically used for things like anti-aliasing and takes a ton of work off the GPU.

360 has more bandwidth too which is very important, and if you couple that with a faster drive (since PS3 will ship with 2x or maybe 4x) and you have fater loading times.

So for you to cliam that i' m drunk or just making things up is daft because you' re only making yourself look like a plank!

whats the matter rampage 99
what for ?????
you know something else ??????????
this are the numbers that sony posted
are you angry for 360? are you get paid from ms or something ?
developers complain to ms about hhd didnt you know that
journalist ?
do you know that itagaki said that doa4 it 80-90 percent of 360s power ?
i have the interview r99 i will uploaded when the servers get fixed.
journalist ....................... hmpf...................... just calling names ...for that you
are the best....ΕΙΣΑΙ ΣΤΟΚΟΣ......

Fucking punk. Read my last post instead of trying to insult the regular forum members and a journalist who works for this website.

FOR THAT REASON PLAY YOUR GAMES 15 FPS LIKE GEAR OF WARS
AND LET SONYS GAMES BE AT 60 FPS APE.
and you want to believe you and NOT sony ??
are you working in their labs or something
and you believe to ms
you are to naive ΠΙΘΗΚΙ

Gears wasn' t running at 15fps when i last checked. Sony have displayed framerate recently, but that' s more likely due to the games being in early stages of development.

Is your avatar a picture of Brad Pitt?

ΡΕ ΦΙΛΕ ΤΙ ΓΙΝΕΤΕ ΣΕ ΓΑΜΑ Η ΜΣ ΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧ

βλάκας

he insult me first.
there is no way that a journalist didnt know this things.
how about itagaki ? i have the interview............ he is liar?
and you and r99 are right look man here in greece i have a videogamestore
and before that i was working inside nortec (nintendo of greece )
and before that in plaisio computers
and before that in cosmodata computesr
and before that i was finishing my school ( programming pascal cobol basic ,fixing pcs
i know about this things ....too....but poeple must know the truth.
poor child

βρε στοκε το οτι ξερεις μια λεξη δε σημαινη οτι ξερεις και
τη γλωσσα.
τσιρακι ε τσιρακι

Why do we always get stupid punk kids coming here posting garbage?!



Sabrewolf, IS your avatar a picture of Brad Pitt?! Do you like him?!

φαιδρός

IGN: What is it like to program and design the game for Xbox 360 versus the PlayStation 3? We' re not looking to start a blood war here. We' re more interested in what it' s like to program for each, and what each one' s strengths and weaknesses seem to be? Also, how do you foresee the two versions differing in the final product visually, gameplay-wise, sound wise?

Magnus Högdahl: The PS3 will have a content size advantage with blu-ray and a CPU advantage for titles that are able to utilize a lot of the SPUs. The Xbox360 has a slight GPU advantage and its general purpose triple-core CPU is relatively easy to utilize compared to SPUs. I expect that it will be near impossible to tell Xbox360 and PS3 screenshots apart.




xbox360 has better gpu?
Now stfu.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

how old are you lazy kid?
fast because i must go to sleep
i have a store to run you know?
oh and tell them what consoles you have.........
i know ............that with itagaki have hurt you eh??
dont worry i will posted it on every site and everyone will see it, because
journalists hide it right away......................

Oh wow, looksie Sabrewolf, i AM right!

Thanks for coming to my rescue Quez, you know your my hereo!



What should be noted is that i said exactly the same thing way back in December (only a couple of people will remember that though, people like Gangsta) and that was before this interview and before most of the developers comments.

majikdra6on i know it' s soooo lame to make brad pitt as avatar lool but dude brad pit is a good actor , don' t you agree? movies like fight club, snatch ....

but yeah it' s FUCKING lame to put him in an avatar as any otehr actor or actress..

YES ITAGAKI WILL MAKE A NINJA GAIDEN GAME TO PS3 AFTER He established a fanbase on xbox plattform and then said in famitsu dont worry i will never leave my xbox fans.

And then announce he is making 5 games,and two of them has been 360 so far.

And then responding how he feelt it was wrong of IGN to even speculate if NG2 gonna come to ps3.
And then adding NG2 is under dev and its going well as can be read at 1up.com

Now dont come with crap that NG2 is coming to ps3.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

well as you can read in nintendo wii thread.
i told to someone that TEAM NINJA ALWAYS PUSHES THE PLATFORM THAT THEY
WORKING FOR FROM THE VERY START
just like doa 3.
even pgr 1 (60 fps) on xbox 1 was limit because the pgr 2 was 30 fps
bizzare said we have to cut the frames because we add MORE detail.
anyway if you are good at this you should know that when
we speak about power and graphics and who is more powerfull.
WE SPEAK ONLY ABOUT ENGINES THAT RUNNING AT 60 FPS AND ABOVE ASK ANY PC FAN.
ΑΝ ΕΙΣΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΛΥΠΑΜΕ

That' s it, i' ve blocked wolf boys messages. They' re not worth reading.

majikdra6on i know it' s soooo lame to make brad pitt as avatar lool but dude brad pit is a good actor , don' t you agree? movies like fight club, snatch ....

He' s a GREAT actor, but because this guys is from Greece he' s chosen that avatar specifically and THAT is sad.

Troy was a terrible film too!

SORRY TO MAKE YOUR THREAD A WAR ZONE
BUT THEY STARTED IT
ΒΑΣΙΛΗΣ.

So Heavnly sword that was supposed to have 5000 enemies and running in 1080p and then was shown in e3 with 720p and 10 enemies at most was any over achivment by the ps3?

Ofc they run at alpha kit,but look at xbox360 alpha kit last year,most was the same graphic but at better fps.
Instead of 30 fps in cod2 it ran in 60- fps with finale kit.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ΚΑΙ ΕΓΩ ΤΟ ΙΔΙΟ ΡΕ ΧΑΖΕ ΝΥΧΤΑ

Btw troy is a greece story :P made by homers that could had happend in reality,yes troy was probably a turkish city,which the greece invaded and destoryed,ofc the tales of the battle has then been exaggerated and had some heroes added in ,or with famous people from that battle that has been exaggerated also.

And yes brad pitt is a good actor.
Angelia jolie is a crackhoe though.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

OK troy wasnt turkish not even CLOSE.

Also, Itagaki NEVER said DoA4 used 80% of 360s power, he said he' d filled 80-90% of the disc space, and that' s only because they used shoddy compression techniques.

Oblivion proves what can be achieved and even if a game spilled over onto multiple discs, what was the greatest RPG ever made and how many discs did it fill?!

The cell chip is exciting, I think maybe Sony are getting ahead of themselves in putting it in PS3 though. The cell chip is already being used in SGI workstations but if they can' t yeild a decent crop that allows them to cheaply produce FULLY WORKING chips, then you know PS3 is a bad egg. I forget how many cell chips they were gonna have to start with last E3, but it' s gone to one, then to 7/8ths of it working, now they' ve cut another unit out so you have a single cell chip working at 3/4 it' s capacity.

While this still gives it raw processing power, it won' t be harnessed properly yet so i think the PC won' t have much to fear, hell, I think in a few years we' ll have Cell PCs.


Oh yeah and put your wiis away boys and fight in PM if you have to.

haha, I made a wii joke.. kill me now.

IDIOT BEFORE YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE SAID ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.
DONT WORRY EVERYONE I WILL GIVE THIS INTERVIEW TO DASHER22 AND THEN
YOU ALL SEE THAT Majikdra6on IS A BIG JOKE
AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WANT THIS INTERVIEW

Itagaki said the disc space is more then fine,however not if you gonna add hours of HD CGI movies.

Also,i find it funny how enchanted arms that has 50 hours main quest in their rpg and 10' s of hours sidequest,and Oblivion that has 200 hours of gameplay use 1 DVD.

And the only one who really complain is a guy making a fighting game,how much things does they have?

Nothingm ;) but as i said,itagaki wanted to add a lot of CGI.
Which takes lots of space,and if you ask me,is just dumb to have,better to have as in HALO1,2 and now Gears of war,have everything real time cut-scenes,instead of a video.

You feel much more into the game then.
And btw,no one forced itakagi to make HD cgi,he could have used CGI,or the character models.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

BEST RPG EVER
ZELDA OCARINA OF TIME
NOT EVEN A CD Majikdra6on
GO GAMERANKINGS.COM GUYS

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Itagaki said the disc space is more then fine,however not if you gonna add hours of HD CGI movies.

That' s Final Fantasy buggered then, few hours of CGI scenes, bugger all left for gameplay. Pretty bog standard if you ask me.

THe only game that really made me say wow from PS3 was MGS4,and its coming 2008.

Trust me if gears of war thats coming this year,could been delayed to 2008,and used real time cutscence then you would have seen a lot better graphic.
My point is...

Xbox360 hasn' t showed its best yet,Mass effect is the best looking game i seen so far,and thats just the first of three games.
Once the righ dev is getting used to xbox360 then you gonna see what havin a better gpu means.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

That' s Final Fantasy buggered then, few hours of CGI scenes, bugger all left for gameplay. Pretty bog standard if you ask me.

Mm,look at MGS4 none was HD or CGI,you can make great cutscenes with real time also :P
And if you ask me they look the coolest,when you have in-game graphic.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

saborwolf is the biggest dumbass on the forum
jodes tu madre
omg i spoke another language i' m so cool.....

Saborwolf you don' t know shit about games and we wouldn' t have a problem with that but you go about talking like you know all this stuff and you are completely fucking wrong. Now STFU.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Of course they do, you don' t get jolts from different levels of realism in your characters. I can understand wanting detail and maybe better control over how the character look back when PS1 and PS2 were around and not doing much of a job of graphics. But even then, there were games likes skies of arcadia which didn' t even use voices, let alone CGI cutescenes and you still had a story and characters which drew you in and brought you along for the ride.

I really think square need to decide if Final Fantasy is a movie or a game. Cuz right now they can' t seem to do much of either at the moment (in my opinion anyways).

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

Saborwolf you don' t know shit about games and we wouldn' t have a problem with that but you go about talking like you know all this stuff and you are completely fucking wrong. Now STFU.

Don' t feed the fire.

What they can though is delivering some of the best graphic ever made.
And FF13 looks truly amazing visually.
I would have bragged about those visuals if it came to 360.
Ofc for me Mass effect still looks better but... oh nvm :)

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

BEST RPG EVER
ZELDA OCARINA OF TIME
NOT EVEN A CD Majikdra6on
GO GAMERANKINGS.COM GUYS

You know why?
Cause in Final Fantasy 100' s of mb' s was thanks of the CGI,dumb ass.
This just prove my point even more,no videos=much room for space.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.