$499 PS3 lacking features

That' s right, no force feedback in either and no wireless (Blutooth) controllers for the cheaper model.

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

So it means that the 20Gb model will have:

- No HDMI out

- No force feedback

- No wireless controllers (note that not only will they not come with the console but the console won' t actually support them)

- No Wi-Fi

- No Memory Stick Duo slot

- No ability to upgrade (which is a joke in itself)

I would' ve put it in the " PS3 Controller" thread but bit may not have been noticed by everybody so instead it' s getting it' s own.

What the hell? Are they actually expecting people to buy the core package?

So even if you went out and got some wireless ones it won' t support it?, if so I wouldn' t understand why. Also if thats the case it looks like my comment about steering towards the 599 bundle is not that far from fiction.

No, they wouldn' t work because the Bluetooth tech isn' t being put in the core package.

The " premium" (proper) system will be identified by it' s chrome lettering (i wonder where they got that idea...)

PATHETIC!

Thats a really weird or rather bizarre tactic (imo)because why waste money on production of the ' ' core' ' version if they are different to it' s brother by a wide margin and also I think if most people got the 599 one you' d have to go without some games and other stuff for a while. By the way how' s you find that out?.

Y' know, the complete model will cost £425 in the UK. If i convert that by crrent exchange rates then it works out at $800 ($798.89).

So anbody in the states who is pissed at the price tag should think about us and our more expensive purchase!

By the way how' s you find that out?

Sony announced it.

It' s being reported on by Games Radar here...

http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060513133719562032§ionId=1006&releaseId=20060314132311609002

Ken Kutaragi = KK and Phil Harrison = PH..

KK: Core version? You mean like Playstation 1.5? Interesting..

PH: Yes. (Temporarily removes head from KK' s ass), that way we can still
bring in money for this $499 version.

KK: You make a valid point <atchoo> motion sensing...

PH: Pardon?

KK:My distinctive sneezing sounds like I am saying something...

PH: I think you may be onto something..

KK: World dominance with 2 PS3' s! Haha, and those dumb american b!tches and
european fags will lap it up! So will my beloved japanese family and their forty
wives... MORE SALES!!!

PH: Like me! Since I was imported as a slave.

KK: But you know, the Sony bank has been filled with butterflies and moth' s lately.

PH: Yes, the acquisition of CELL did put a deficit in the account.

KK: Sell one at $600 and the other at $500!

PH: So that' s the 60GB at $500...

(Kutaragi pulls out something from his inside pocket and slaps him)

[b]PH: Hot sh!t diggity, what was that?

KK: Oh, the original dual shock, I like Killzone multiplayer. But this is about
acquiring cash!

PH: SO sell, the 20GB version and.. lower cost lower cost... No wireless pads!

KK: If only more american slave were like you...

PH: Blu-ray production ramped up...

KK: No! Those blu -ray drives stay under my bed.

PH: But what about customers..

KK: Well seeing as the lower version is virtually a paper weight and by here on
is not a PS3, we can make all sorts of things go wrong! It won' t play blu-ray..

PH: No HDMI ouput....

KK: No wireless...

PH: No 1080p...

KK: No wi-fi...

PH: No games?

KK: I' ll allow it...

PH: Yes!! And no upgrade ability! Yes <clap, clap, clap> forcing them to more or
less get 2 PS3' s....

KK:.........
............. I like the way you think..

PH: Oh, here' s something I sketched...

KK: Looks like the one in my pocket, and what in Nippon ichi are these 6 arrows?

PH: You know how we fired the design and electronics team..

KK:? Mm- hmm.. I didnt want another Dual Shock..

PH: And you always wanted to leave E3 with a bang...

KK: You know, more American slaves wouldn' t go amiss.. To E3!

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

Y' know, the complete model will cost £425 in the UK. If i convert that by crrent exchange rates then it works out at $800 ($798.89).

Wow, that really sucks. Not only is the core system shaping up to be a joke, but the PS3' s price is not going to be universal? I wonder why Sony' s favoring America with the price difference. What' s its problem with Europe?

Do you know what the price will be in Japan?

But why?....I honestly don' t see what it takes to have the chrome lettering put onto the 20gb one. So in effect you' re paying for

Wireless bluetooth
Chrome lettering
Hdmi output
Wifi
Memory stick duo

And also if you choose the 20 gig you' re stuck with it as it' s un-upgradeable. I still don' t understand it.

@Tiz

Hilarious!

" ...if only more American slaves were like you..."

Majik it is speculation, not confirmed by sony. I was reading joystiqs article on it. The HDD is upgradable on either version also. I' ll copy it here.

There' s a story making the rounds suggesting that the $500 PS3 " Core" system is missing something else in addition to the aforementioned Wi-Fi, HDMI, and memory card support: wireless controller functionality and an upgradable hard-drive. While the Xbox 360 Core system doesn' t ship with wireless controllers, it does support them; however, Games Radar writes that " wireless Bluetooth controllers won' t be supported" in the lower-priced PS3. Similarly, whereas the Xbox 360 Core system ships sans hard-drive, it is possible to add one and match the functionality of the more expensive offering. Games Radar writes that a " Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won' t be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version."

Sony' s press release (.doc) clearly states that both models will ship with " Wireless controller (Bluetooth)" so, until Sony issues an official statement saying otherwise, we' re going to disregard this rumor. The lack of credibility on this one doesn' t bode well for the second rumor, that the PS3' s hard drive won' t be upgradeable.

Examining older press shots of the rear of the system doesn' t reveal a removable hard drive solution similar to the PS2' s combo HDD and Ethernet adapter, so it is possible that the hard drive is intended to be permanent. The omission of a user-upgradable hard drive would certainly pressure consumers to " get it right" the first time and opt for the more expensive model, further marginalizing and diminishing the value of their lower-priced offering. If the 360' s dual SKU' s were " confusing" ...

(Update: It appears our skepticism was well placed: readers were quick to point out that the removable hard drive bay is on the bottom of the console when vertical, or on the left when horizontal. Here' s an image where you can clearly see the bay. Games Radar is 0 for 2 on this one.)

And taken from IGN http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708601p1.aspx

IT Media asked Kawanishi to give details on how Sony will be explaining to potential PS3 purchasers the difference between the two models. When playing games, explained Kawanishi, there will be no problem if you consider both models to be the same. The level of importance of the lack of HDMI on the 20 gig model depends on if your television has an HDMI port. Also, the difference in hard disk size can be fixed by swapping the 20 gig drive for a larger one.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

Interesting.

But if they' re removing the Wi-Fi anyway then it would make sense to remove the Bluetooth too.

Joystiq is just a blog though...

True but sony' s spec sheet that shows the ps3 has no wifi and smaller hdd no card slots etc, shows both systems having wireless controller.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

Where?

It doesn' t say anything on the press release.

EDIT: Nevermind, i' m blind.

Y' know, the complete model will cost £425 in the UK. If i convert that by crrent exchange rates then it works out at $800 ($798.89).

So anbody in the states who is pissed at the price tag should think about us and our more expensive purchase!

I' m sure I' ve posted this elsewhere, but again for comparison and to update on the current exchange rate...


Japan (11th November)
20Gb Ver. = 59800¥ ($542.35 / £288.55)
60Gb Ver. = Price set by retailers.

America (17th November)
20Gb Ver. = $499 (€389.96 / £265.62)
60Gb Ver. = $599 (€468.12 / £318.85)

Europe (17th November)
20Gb Ver. = €499 ($638.67 / £339.97)
60Gb Ver. = €599 ($766.66 / £408.1)

My calculator' s never seen so much action.

The american 60g and the european has nearly a £100 difference (£398) pretty steep but how come?. I have a feeling it' s going to end up cheaper in japan. Saying that when I imported the psp I had to pay something like £57 import tax.

ORIGINAL: dasher232

The american 60g and the european has nearly a £100 difference (£398) pretty steep but how come?

Because once again, tech companies like sony forget about exchange rates and just to a straight number port. Meaning we europeans always pay FAR MORE than americans do for almost everything. I see this behaviour all the time and it sickens me.

Weird... kinda makes you dizzy just thinking about it.

It was the same with the 360. $400 in the US vs equivalent of $525 in the UK. J Allards excuse last year was that Europeans don' t mind buying it at that price, because they have a different sense of value.

If we had a choice we' d take it at $400! [:' (]

360 games are £50 ($94), and PS3 games are probably going to be more!

Yeah the americans always get the good end of the stick price wise when it comes to consoles. If only there was a european company willing to join the console next gen era....or the one after. Nah it' s probably best then just waiting for a price drop like most people I know...but i' m too hasty sometimes.

J.allard is a bastard for saying that then.
However we have higher taxes/and hostile trade imports from USA here in europe.
But seeing how MS wants to win you could assume they would pay for that diffrence,ofc SONY never cared either for that.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

what a load of shit as if, sony have reli cocked up bigtime if thats true, its r8 though av preorderd me 60gb ps3 today so a dnt give one. but still asif

Ohh and also av erd that ps3 games could cost £60 a mean OMFG wot do they think we are rich

ORIGINAL: Joe_1110

what a load of shit as if, sony have reli cocked up bigtime if thats true, its r8 though av preorderd me 60gb ps3 today so a dnt give one. but still asif

Ohh and also av erd that ps3 games could cost £60 a mean OMFG wot do they think we are rich

What are you saying?

Seriously, you' re harder to understand than SABREWOLF.

I work in Gamestation in the UK and the premium pachage will be £425.

We don' t have a price for the cheaper unit because it may not be released here.

The prices are NOT universal, you can' t just convert it from another countries price. The UK always has a different price to Europe and the US whereas the EU price usually mirrors the US price.

It costs more in the UK.

This is a stupid rumor passing around the net.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/14/clearing-up-some-ps3-confusion/

the controller isnt what is pushing up the price.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

ORIGINAL: Joe_1110

what a load of shit as if, sony have reli cocked up bigtime if thats true, its r8 though av preorderd me 60gb ps3 today so a dnt give one. but still asif

WOW...

Ok, I' ll take a shot at it....

" What a load of shit. As if (valley-girl colloquialism) Sony has made a serious error if this is true. It' s alright though (because) I preordered my own 60gb ps3 today. But still, as if."

Joystiq fucking sucks. It' s a bloody blog!

It wouldn' t suprise me one bit if it was true. It would go well with all the other stupid fucking mistakes Sony are making.



On a side note, Monster Hunter Freedom (PSP) absolutely rules!

did you look at the .doc?

Joystiq rocks, I dont know what YOUR takin about.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Yeah i looked at the press release as i noted earlier. It still wouldn' t suprise me though.

Joystiq blows!

its not jsut the games industry that weighs heavy in the uk, not only are we a service-heavy based country now, where as if we were manufacturing based our import / exports would balance better, but its not.

Also, having spent half a million quid on IT in the past few years in previous jobs I can tell you it has ALWAYS been $1 = £1, regardless of exchange rate.

car stereos for example...

If we exclude the fact that the US get fobbed off with tuners that dont do RDS or DAB, and have the wrong tuner spacing (so less chanels etc..)

a JVC AVX2 Headunit in this country costs £450, in the states it costs $450 dollars.
My dilemma is how much is RDS lacking adn a stupid sirius satellite logo being there instead really worth!

This is the same for TVs, White goods etc..etc..


it sucks and makes me buy US / Jap whenever I can to save pennies..

Now the chinese are getting involved things are going to get even weirder!

ΜΗ ΜΟΥ ΠΕΙΣ ΟΤΙ ΕΙΣΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΡΕ ΦΙΛΕ

Prices are really bad in Canada since were now getting almost 90 cents on the usd, but prices haven' t been adjusted. I think the ps3 premium pack is said to be 750$ cnd, FUCK! Screw ps3, I' ll just invest in a high end pc instead:

Window Vista (direct X10)
AMD 2X 4400+ (overclocked)
2gb ram
250 gb HDD
next gen gpu (Ati R600)
Physics Proccessor
Xi Fi sound card

my pc>ps3

SEAsia prices generally adopt the US price with exchange rate. Premium package for the Xbox 360 is at $660 currently; but Xbox games and certain Xbox parts are made in Singapore, so the price might be lessened from what it could be if it was directly imported. The Xbox itself is formated to the NTSC-J format for SEAsia, but becaues NTSC-J games with English versions are made in Singapore directly, we can play English games that ordinarily are Japanese

PS2' s are currently straight from Japan; so there are no English PS2 games in Singapore/SEAsia [:' (]

Importing from the US would mean about $800 for the 20 GB package, and close to a thousand for the high-end package. This is disregarding the initial launch inflation (if any). Games would also cost approximately $90-$120, I' m unsure whether a Blu-Ray format game disc would have how much a higher pricetag.

Importing the Japanese version...I' m not sure. What was the Japanese pricetag again?

The japanese have' nt a fixed price tag they' ve left it down to retailers....what I would like to know is why only in japan?.....

Because most of their console will be there and they know japanese people wont buy the core package.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Sorry if you knew that this post was Bullshit already , but just in case :

" Both queries to my knowledge are completely false," a spokesperson told GI.biz.

" Both configurations will support bluetooth PS3 controllers. The only non-upgradeable feature of the 20GB configuration will be the HDMI output."

Yeah it seems that way, but the 2nd quote is a lie. The 20Gb version doesn' t come with mamory card duo slots either...

Maybe there is a way to upgrade it anyway... for like $50/£49.99 - Sony, well they wouldn' t surprise me...

Infact knowing sony, prob the 20gb version would have bt, but support only 2 controllers, you need a sony branded ps3 multi-tap for 3/4 player gaming.

Not that i ever need more than 2 controllers - not a big fan of multiplayer games.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

Not a big fan of multiplayer games? You mean you never were exposed to the joys of playing Contra with a pal? Or any coop game? Whoa, that is pretty bad. Hopefully you get some games that truly show off how good multiplayer can be in the future.

Well, it is a little reassuring that both configs get wireless compatability, but I still don' t like the $499 package. I need HDMI out so that when it does become the norm, I have it all ready to go.

You wa Shock!!!

vdig, I used to enjoy multi-player, but it lost it' s appeal to me in most games.

Sure i' ve played co-op contra, streets of rage, street fighter, smash tv, halo, and many others, but as games are moving to multi player online experiences, I tend to be moving towards immersive single player games, (or where i get to hack something into pieces and get covered in blood ((anyone played Berserk on PS2 [or dreamcast]?)) )

The last time I played a multi-player game was... actually a couple weeks ago, going through Streets of rage 1 and 2 again... Those were the days..... But been playing my saturn more than anything else lately - I think it' d rank up there as my favourite console, with mega drive second. Saturn era, for me, absolutely rocked (And I loved defending it against playstation fanboys)

EDIT: Just to comment on the topic, I do have an HDMI TV, so I will be getting the full version, but i doubt it' ll be this year, money, and launch machine tend to be risky investments. I don' t want to risk it too much.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast