Super Smash Brothers Brawl

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.aspx

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Snake in in This Game Solid Snake lol

I wonder if they have anymore un specified charaters?

And it still has traditonal controls

The video looks good, I hope those aren' t the only new characters though. It would be cool if Nintendo could crack a deal with Sega and have Sonic and Knuckles in the next one, or maybe Capcom could lend Mega-Man.

Official Site
http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.aspx

YES!

This is what I' ve been waiting for...

I' m so happy right now. It might not be a launch title anymore, but that might be for the better. I was worried when I heard that they had only started work on it in December. The delay will give them time to get it right. I can' t believe they got Nobuo Uematsu to do the theme song. I wonder if he' s going to have anything to do with the other songs in the game.

Of course those aren' t going to be the only new characters, and considering how many characters they added for Melee, they have a lot to live up to.

They introduced Samus' s new " form," I wonder if you' re going to be able to switch between this form and her classic one, similar to Zelda/Sheik. How many characters could they give alternate forms to?

Just what I wanted to see... and then some.

Is that Pit and Meta-Knight? It is about time they showed up! I' m surprised Konami and Kojima allowed Snake to show up though. That' s a kickass bonus if ever I saw one.

*Watches trailer*

Oh my... that looked sick. That fart was absolutely nasty!

You wa Shock!!!

Yep this is pretty much what I' ve been expecting for this one, damn now I need the Wii.

hideo was almost begging nintendo to place snake in it :)

there will be lots of other characters - japan got a special voting service on who they want in it.

It looks so beautiful ...(I saw the high res trailer)

Snakes special weapon should be a 30 minute long codec conversation.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

I kind of predicted that Wario, Pit and Meta Knight would be in a Smash Bros eventually- but Nintendogs and Snake? Damn, online play sure will be class!

Well I hope Other companies(SEGA Capcom Treasure Hudson I would take anyone )
get their characters in SSBB.

Imagine the possiblities...

Veiwtiful Joe and...
Sonic and...
Bonks and Bomberman Classic (not the 360 version lol)
Han Randy Nicole Ginjirou Serena Valgar Kannon Undead Hero
(I basically want Guardian Heroes sorry {I should not have thought about it}
*cries a lil bit*) Red Blue
More Konami Alucard...

I mean if they can fit snake in their Then they can fit anyone (almost)

I really would take Rachet if he was up for grabs
Master Cheif lol

Too bad they could get some free publicity but money make the disk spin.

actually kojima was asking them to include snake in GCN version - he really wanted him there , but game was to far in developement so this time Shigeru made it cause he promised it.

New characters are being discussed on a corporate level right now - there will definitely be Sonic I' m sure of it , but I wish Viewtiful joe is there too.

And this time single player will be even more fun than in GCN version.

Yeah Viewtiful Joe, i forgot about him. SSB3 needs Joe,Sonic, and Mega Man.

If any of you have played Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble then it' s plainly obvious that Joe was meant for a game like Smash Bros. Team Viewtiful tried to copy Smash with Red Hot Rumble and didn' t quite do it. Giving Joe to Smash Bros. would be the only way. Both Capcom and Sega really need to jump on this opportunity.

https://forum.kikizo.com/tm.asp?m=48885&appid=&p=1&mpage=2&key=&language=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#48919

Jumping here from that topic about " microsoft and nintendo buddying up?" .

If it is remotely true that Microsoft is trying to promote Nintendo for numerous reasons, then the likelihood of seeing Microsoft IPs in Smash Brothers is actually greater than zero, which makes for a very interesting situation.

Master Chief is now actually a VERY remote possibility instead of an impossibility.

You wa Shock!!!

Let' s not take the comments made my Microsoft out of proportion. What they said was mainly the truth. Who would buy one expensive console when you can get two that do more?

It doesn' t instantly mean that Mario is going to find his way to X360 or Master Chief to Wii. I think it' s still an impossibility.

But back on topic, while it was inevitable a sequel would come out, god damn it' s good to hear. I just hope they don' t make many of the characters too similar like they did in Melee. Let' s see some new characters with new moves and new strategies.

Yes, the less clones there are in this iteration, the better. I did not like the Captain Falcon clone Ganondorf one iota. Falco was kinda lame, and the jump often-times lethal when coupled with the bunny hood, especially in the Game & Watch level. Roy and Marth... well, I kinda liked ' em, they had some differences, but still, they too were clones. Clones are cheap cop-outs to me. The developers should take their time to create individual character to each character in the roster.

Edit:
I did not say that it instantly means the IPs are going anywhere. I just said it opens a remote possibility... oh who am I kidding, it won' t happen. Still, one can dream

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Until I heard the news, I didn' t think it' d feel right with third-party characters- but now I think Viewtiful Joe, Sonic, Pac-man and possibly a Final Fantasy character should be on it!

Oh, and Conker!

Plus it uses the traditional controller. OMFG I' m in heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait a second, Snake? Solid Snake? Who' s next, perhaps CJ, with his special move " Hot Coffee" (with matching outfit(or lack of outfit)). Or maybe Atrus, the everloving übernerd from the Myst games. OOH! Wait! I Know! What about just abandoning the whole Game v. Game thing and put Lawrence of Arabia in there.
And we' ll throw Gollum and Margaret Thatcher in there just for kicks.

I don' t think that would work Hounderdoggen. The lawrence of Arabia idea would be too tough to pull off, I mean we ALL have an idea in our head of what OUR Lawrence of Arabia should look and sound like, and If Nintendo goes and puts him in the game, it might not be right, and the backlash could be huge. Not only that, but I think Gollum and Margaret Thatcher would be unbalance characters. I mean come on, the one ring, and the right to make your own rules (as long as they' re voted on by parliment and then passed by the proper judicial systems) whenever you want??? No, I think they should stick to Video game characters.


As a second note, could someone explain to me why the hell I' d ever want to play this game??? I love Nintendo, but I can' t figure out what' s good about the smash brothers games? I' ve only played one for about half an hour, and it was entirely forgettable. Any insight would be great.

Did you play it by yourself or with friends? Friends make this game awesome. Although it' s still great playing against the AI too.

Melee was the reason that I bought a Gamecube in the first place. So not even God himself can stop me from getting Brawl! *Ducks with the thought of something really bad occuring*

Yet more information on the game.

I have just recently read that Dr Mario will no longer be a full character but will instead be a different suit for mario. If this is infact revealed to be true than I would expect there to even be a nurse Peach.

Pichu will be removed and set as an devolution of Pikachu, but he will be smaller and weaker just as he is in Melee. Also Raichu will be an evolved Pikachu but will be slower heavier but stronger than Pikachu. Pikachu will still have Ash' s hat.

This is just speculation, but I think Snake' s box will be used as his shield thing- which were previously used with the shoulder buttons.

Tom Nook is supposedly going to be added into the game as an extra character(sign swinging inevitable).

Sonic will make an appearance and will have a final battle with mario where there will be a short ingame film where mario meets sonic and shortly after mario and sonic will fight. The entire battle will be seet in emerald hills, and will have an epic soundtrack for the final showdown between the two once and for all.

That last one was a lie, I got it from gamespot, it would be the defining moment for games though.

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As a second note, could someone explain to me why the hell I' d ever want to play this game??? I love Nintendo, but I can' t figure out what' s good about the smash brothers games? I' ve only played one for about half an hour, and it was entirely forgettable. Any insight would be great.

If you weren' t fighting against friends, then that is the reason, like UnluckyOne said. The single player is not very fun at all, even in Melee, though it is improved. Multiplayer is the reason to play it, and not against just bots, as they don' t provide the same level of entertainment or skill that a real human player does.

Masahiro Sakurai said that he wanted to make the single player mode more immersive, but wasn' t able to focus on it as much as he wanted to because of time constraints, etc. With the delay, this Smash Bros. will have more development time than any of the others, and Sakurai has said he' s going to use the time for a much better single player.

*Edit*
Also, even if the single player doesn' t end up well, this game will go ONLINE. A feature that will be the main selling point for many.

CJ, with a Hot Coffee super tech? ROFLCOPTER! Like that would ever happen. This is Smash Brothers, not Def Jam.

Smash Brothers is meant to be a multiplayer experience, ESPECIALLY when you can get a group of three others for a four player smash-fest. Egos, alliances made on the fly... heck, it' s like the best parts of Survivor in quick 2-7 minute spurts, mixed with classic and current gaming icons! Classic stuff to be sure.

Sonic vs Mario. Many of us have envisioned that confrontation. Newgrounds has multiple parodies based on that one matchup, although I prefer the Newgrounds' Megaman vs. Samus/Arthur games more. Sonic and Mario were THE rival mascots of the 16 bit era. Someone get Sonic on board the Brawl ASAP!

Online Smash... no more excuses about not having any friends. Won' t cut it anymore. Still, you should try to find local buddies to train with anyway. Better to trash talk in person, after all.

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While I love having many, many people crowded around the screen and shouting into it as if they thought it would respond, I think it is still always nice to have at least one unlucky bot on the field every once in a while. When my brother is too cowardly to play, me and my dad usually go for a free-for-all with bots on as well- just to laugh at the damn things' stupidity. It' s so fun!

On a side note, I do hope that the battle stages are as balanced(if not better) as the ones in Melee- and also VERY interactive! I prefer the original Smash Bros mostly for the more frantic feel it had with it' s smaller levels. I also hope that Nintendo see sense and bring back the clever character entrances just before the start of the scraps- Those were class!

I think it would be neat if Brawl had some sort of flat Mario Party board for a level, in which players can trigger events by stepping on randomly flashing icons on the ground. I also believe that Paper Mario would make a great addition(seeing as the unsuited Samus is in the game)as well as Diddy Kong(paired with Dixie for the up + B move).

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I also hope that Nintendo see sense and bring back the clever character entrances just before the start of the scraps- Those were class!

Those were awesome! I was incredibly dissapointed when they didn' t include that in Melee. Ness' s warp entrance was my favorite. If they include them, Wario needs to ride in on that Harley.

I also believe that Paper Mario would make a great addition(seeing as the unsuited Samus is in the game)as well as Diddy Kong(paired with Dixie for the up + B move).

Diddy they can get, but Dixie I don' t think Nintendo has the rights for. They got the rights for Donkey Kong (of course) and Diddy when Rare left for Microsoft, but Rare kept Dixie and all the other Kong' s. I' m not even sure if they' re going to be able to reference Donkey Kong Country or not. (Though this might come as a relief to some as it means the DK Rap will not be making a return.)

Bowser Jr is in the game, as well as Falco, cel-shaded Link, and Ridley(Metroid).

Ice climbers and Game & Watch will not be returning.

There will be no more clone characters, all characters will have their own unique move sets.

HAL is aiming to include about 40 characters in the game.

Provide links please.

Oh yeah, I apologise.

SSBB info

I' m not sure how official this site is- hell, I wouldn' t be surprised if it' s all just a big rumour- but Baby Bowser and Ridley surely can' t be a bad thing(if it' s true that is).

This, I think, is an essential read for anyone wanting Smash updates.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642&page=1&pp=40

Apparently, though the English SmashBros site hasn' t seen many updates, the Japanese site has received some responses for emails sent in. This is supposed to be a translation of part of it. Not really official, I know, but if anyone knows another way to translate it, or wants to try themselves:

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/

Have at it.



Any way, some of this I find very interesting (and frightening), like " This time, we' d like to stress easiness over the small details of combat, so overall it might become somewhat easier." I hope they don' t take item-catching and the other abilities out! I still want some challenge when I play!

Also, they' re apparantly rebuilding the characters to allow more freedom in aerial combat, which seems to be the focus now.

Sakurai says that 1-2 non-Nintendo characters (besides Snake) are planned, and those characters have to have appeared on a Nintendo system before, which makes sense. In addition, " Sakurai will eventually reveal all the secret characters (most likely before the game' s release), and he will make Snake (and all other guest characters) into an unlockable character." So, Snake' s going to be an unlockable? That' s going to be the first one people go after. It' s really going to make him seem that much more awesome, since the player had to do that much more to get him.

Also, when talking about Kirby' s copy ability, Sakurai says, " I guess I have no choice but to make a Snake copy, too. Should it be a bandana? Or perhaps a beard?"
MULLET!

There' s some other interesting stuff I didn' t mention here, just read the post.

Sakurai has updated the Smash Bros. site again, though sadly this update is just informing us that he will no longer be updating the site until the release of the game. It' s probably better for him to just focus on working on the game anyway.

Additionally, why haven' t there been any responses to my previous post? Did you guys read the link? Had you already known about it? Input?

Another bit of information, but this one isn' t nearly as monumental. Kojima is said to be developing the stage for Solid Snake in Brawl.

link

This might point to other things, though. Could Kojima also be developing weapons for Brawl from the Metal Gear series? Sakura has already said that he won' t give Snake any guns or knives (even though Smash Bros. has guns and swords already), but other weapons (Stinger or Nikita, perhaps) may be eligible.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl is going to be great!!!

The Wiire is reporting that there is going to be new Brawl footage at Nintendo World this year (link).

Bowser Jr is in the game, as well as Falco, cel-shaded Link, and Ridley(Metroid).

Ice climbers and Game & Watch will not be returning.

There will be no more clone characters, all characters will have their own unique move sets.

HAL is aiming to include about 40 characters in the game.

Not like i would miss game & watch and the ice climbers, but didnt they already say everyone thats been in a SS game would be in this one?

It looks great, I just can' t wait until they release it.

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I wonder if they have anymore un specified charaters?

There' s a rumor that Sonic made make it in...which actually makes a whole lot more sense than Snake being in it if you think about it...

I don' t want Sonic to be in Brawl... They' ll either under-speed him or... give him
a weapon...

Either way,they' ll make a lot of cust from his character and who he is.... Then
they' ll make a gay classic " Mario vs. Sonic - The oldest rivals" special event...

DON' T PUT SONIC IN SUPER SMASH BROTHERS BRAWL!!!!!!!!!!

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

If Raikov could be a different skin for Snake in Brawl...

Would we get a couch-grab move o_0?

If they could get the Harvest Moon guy/gal in there, I can imagine all the moves you can do with the different barnyard tools...

sonics controlls would be too screwy. they would have to do somthing to make him useful, but they will probally make it even gayer by throwing tails in there and making him follow sonic around like in every other game