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Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 06:44
I just saw this on the web an apparently it' s from the revolution. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/07/red-steel-first-revolution-screens-revealed/
Wanted to see what you guys think.
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 06:53
Well that ought to calm some people. I know it' s not going to have the textures of 360 or PS3 games, but the fact that the games are running at 480p instead of 1080i or 720p means that the smaller hardware can turn out great images, just not at hi-res.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 06:58
I still don' t really know what to make of it to be honest.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:00






It seems like these are genuine in that they have been confirmed to be scans from the May (just out) issue of Game Informer, and are believed to be ingame screens.

Details are sketchy at the moment (this just hit the web), but from the article several things have been described...

Supposedly a sword and the guns can be twisted in your hand, by twisting the rev' s remote.

Split screen and online multiplayer is planned.

You can also jump over and take cover behind objects by moving the rev' s remote towards a upturned table or a wall, and reload by pulling the remote back.

I' d like to note that although these are supoosedly genuine ingame screens, ...we shouldn' t overlook the possibility of these being renders.
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:03
Yeah I read that aswell and was thinking ' how would that work' I know how it would work but it' s sure to feel awkward, but a little intriguing.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:07

Yeah I read that aswell and was thinking ' how would that work' I know how it would work but it' s sure to feel awkward, but a little intriguing.


I think it would work well and feel very natural. Now all i need is for these to be verified as ingame and i will be passing on a PS3 at launch.

Boody good work getting them here so quickly dash!

Here' s the magazine' s cover...



http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200604/N06.0407.1251.24078.htm

People should also note that i posted last week to say that NOM had a BIG story in their May issuse, ...could this be it?!
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:17
Looks good! Those textures are really awesome! the models themselves aren' t very high poly but the texturing makes up for it. I' ll give it to Nintendo, that game looks nice. I hope I get to test it at E3!
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:19
Thanks lol
You know what I think I might get a revolution (I was planning to pass on the ps3 anyway) I think for the first time i' m kinda intrigued about it.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:26
I dont know, this looks very good for just a ' pumped up xbox' but then Gin Nintendo was meant to be putting some sort of advanced textureing thing in the rev, so i' ll give them the benifit of the doubt.
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:29
Displacement mapping.

EDIT: Bigger versions...





...and some of the article in the magazine...











This definately looks next-gen!
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 07:44
Heh,looks great!!!
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 08:05
...

Text from the artice...


“at their best , video games are about immersion . players shouldnt feel like they are observing the action onscreen, they should be figuratively transported into a different world.

your avitar’s life should become your life , and its adventures should be your adventure. the controller in a player’s hands should transcend its role as a mere interface device; it should become the weapon that you see onscreen .most games try to push immersion with better graphics, more intense action , or overwhelming sound. but one upcoming console is doing something different , trying a new way to make that controller in your hand become something more. that console is the nintendo revolution.

with the unveiling of the revolution’s motion based controller, most gamers envisioned the kaleidoscope of unique ideas that nintendo would use it for. but while the gaming public was preoccupied with demos of cooking and fishing games, one developer asked itself the question of how the revolution could be used to take a familiar genre to the next level.this company wanted to figure out how to use its unique controller not to develop an entirely new type of game, but to elevate an already-popular style. that company is ubisoft, and the answer to its self-imposed challenge is the revolution launch title known as red steel.

it is highly unusual for a company like nintendo to allow the axclusive first look at one of its consoles through a 3rd party game like red steel.but as it turns out , nintendo has been closely involved in the development of this game, and has great confidence that it is a perfect way to introduce the world to revolution . developed by ubisoft paris , one of the publishers oldest and most experienced teams , red steel is a mixture of old and new: a fps that that uses the revolutions controller for aiming - and much more. while nintendo obviously has several games in development for the revolution launch , the company simply doesnt make games like red steel , so letting a respected publisher like ubisoft introduce the revolution through an easy -to - understand game type allows both companies to demonstrate what they do best ..”



http://gonintendo.com/

This is said to be a launch title.
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 11:33
Those are good but I know they will look even better than that.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 12:10
I think it' s funny how when people see pics from the PS3, they' ll say " FAKE!" but when they see pics from the Revolution they just automatically believe as if Jesus came down and told them Himself. You kiddies make me sick. Remember, UBISoft is NOTORIOUS for showing renders and claiming they' re ingame. And we are also in a videogame generation where it is EXTREMELY RARE for any company to show actual in game pics. Most companies are not proud of their games so they use alternate angles or high-res renders. Those screenshots look a bit higher than 480p, though it is hard to tell from those lousy scans.

Wait until you see it in motion before you start your fanboy engines!
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 16:02
Tentative screenshots eh?!

Looks like Joe is right...


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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 18:18
You are right though joe.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 18:21
prince nine one said it' s not a rail shooter , otherwise it' ll be 100% nes not next gen...

so what is " rail shooter" , games like virtua cop and time crisis ??
if so , why is he referring to the nes ? .... is he talking about that duck game ?

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 18:34
A " rail shooter" is something that does not allow you to wander wherever you want to go in a level. Panzer Dragoon and Space Harrier are " rail shooters" . You are on a preset path and can' t really do much about it. What this has to do with the NES is beyond me.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 18:49
thanks joe, well this is more confirmation of what i said, virtua cop and time crisis.

i guess he said the nes because of the duck game, since you can' t move you just hit targets, same principale with virtua cops, the difference is that the latter is in 3d.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 19:31
The story is true , 1up featured some news about it - it is going to be a very adult oriented game.

Ubisoft made Next Gen graphics on Xbox (chaos theory?) so it' s not impossible with some new technologies on a more powerful system.

I wonder if this article says anything about it being concept art or ingame screenshots.

Anyway you' ve missed one important point of all this - UBISOFT? Launch title for Revolution? Original (not ported) one?

It may appear to look worse and shit ,but one thing is for sure - 3rd party is onboard big time.

And look at Rampage99 - if he can say something like that about Rev then Nintendo is definitely doing something right :)

By the way I think that the kind of visuals these screenshots provide are amazing , but if it turns out to be a rail shooter - it won' t be half that impressive.

But from what I' ve read on 1up it' s an adult themed FPP so it sounds like good news.

I' m not familiar with Ubisofts policy but I think they pretty much deliver what they promise in terms of visuals at least.

I think those Raibow Six screenshots looked amazing but not impossible on 360 by any means.

it' s all about E3 now ...

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 19:42
E3 Is inching even closer i' m mostly interested to see what the pricing on the ps3 is gonna be and what else nintendo and microsoft have up their sleeve. And if this is a more adult themed game it will be interesting to see how it will be accepted particularly in europe and america i' m getting the feeling that most nintendo consoles are going to be parents buying for children (might be wrong).

By the way have you guys seen the xbox live academy aliens they r kinda funny I think they should use things like that along with the whole pinyada to market to a younger audience aswell. http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/live/aliens/
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 22:21
Why i belive in this pics?
Cause gameinformer had their exclusive magazine where they played the game itself and said it look the same.

O_o
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 23:07
I am waiting till e3.
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 08, 2006 23:09
That was a good answere :)
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 00:29

Ubisoft made Next Gen graphics on Xbox (chaos theory?) so it' s not impossible with some new technologies on a more powerful system.


Absolutely. Chaos Theory on Xbox was gorgeous, and since REvolution is based on Gamecube architecture, and the Gamecube version of RE4 looked utterly superb, ...with more power, a company like Ubisoft could do an awful lot.

I have heard that the screens are definately ingame but have been slightly touched up, much like the screens for Double Agent on 360.


It may appear to look worse and shit ,but one thing is for sure - 3rd party is onboard big time.


E3 should be VERY interseting. You think Nintendo will announce a list of 3rd party support?!


By the way I think that the kind of visuals these screenshots provide are amazing , but if it turns out to be a rail shooter - it won' t be half that impressive


It' s not exactly an on the rails shooter though. You can move to, and hide behind things, ...take cover etc. But It' s played with both the remote and the analog attatchment, so i would think you' d be able to move around because an on the rails shooter would only need the remote right?!

Also, there is split screen and online multiplayer so it' s almost certainly not an on the rails game.

Oh, and the way you hold the remote, directly affects how you hold the weapon ingame, so you can tilt the gun sideways or whatever and Gangsta can really live up to his name.



Roll on E3!!!

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 00:35
Rev is sounding really cool right now, im just looking forward to seeing the price tag. I really like how Nintendo is going at it this Gen, super nice!

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 01:05
I' d say less than or exactly the $250 sweet spot...

There' s a SLIM-chance we' ll (at least 1 territory) will see the console released BEFORE November...

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 03:58
I found a video that shows how the Revolution controller can be used in games. It could' ve been better though. The video is probably old and maybe you' ve already seen it but those who are having a a hard time understanding how the controller will work should take a look:
http://dl.qj.net/Nintendo-Revolution-Controller-Demo-Video-Nintendo-Revolution-Videos-Trailers/pg/12/fid/672/catid/260

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 06:56

Gangsta can really live up to his name.


Actually it happened in Perfect Dark for N64 (when you got close to enemy - which I did very often hehe) ,but yeah ...I' ll definitely hold it sideways LOL

I' m pretty sure it' s a typical FPS (from what I' ve read) and it' s lookin mighty fine

It' s a nice hint for what to expect at E3 - and that would be :A LOT

Majik you have a really hard name to live up to actually - I mean I just need to smoke somebody and that' s it but you ....I don' t know man :)

EDIT

What IGN has to say about this?

-these are gameplay screenshots (the game was shown in motion)
-16/9 Widescreen
-FPS
-Ability to take cover , block and so on with the controller
-Guns and swords as weapons
-Launch title

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 07:09
Hahahaha...

Yeah, i' m not sure either...

Check your messages...

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 07:25
Will Revolution titles be allowed to NOT have 16:9 widescreen? I sure hope not.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 07:56
it should' ve been a standard since PS2 launch ...

as for Revolution - I think it will be up to developers (and that' s bad) - like it' s always been.

That' s why I' m happy to see Ubisoft making their game in 16/9

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 08:08
It' s possible that it will be a pre-resiquit and that ALL games on the console will have to be formatted that way. Not certain, ...but it' s possible.

Hey Joe, ...you' re a level headed guy, you don' t get carried away in the hype of things...

...what do you suppose Nintendo' s so called " final secret" is?!

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 08:51
Maybe it can run all games at 1080P without any loss in quality?

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 09:45

what do you suppose Nintendo' s so called " final secret" is?!

I haven' t really thought much about it, but it' s most likely not something huge, as in deserving a lot of hype.

Here' s what I' d like it to be:

-Actual HD support
-Requirement that all games run in 480p and 16:9
-Dolby Digital 5.1 sound
-Ethernet jack


Here' s what it most likely is:

-Some sort of " connectivity" with the DS. Yay.
-Some sort of online BS, which I will not take advantage of because I MUCH prefer wired internet.

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 11:35
It seems like the FPS genre has a new home...and I guess mario party can add a host of motion oriented mini-games now.

Im still not sold on the idea behind Revolution. Mostly the litte wand thingy there. Its just not as functional as many make it out to be. You need to many add-ons just to go from one genre to another. Sim racing will be hell with a wheel thats so free. 3rd person games will pretty much render the wand useless except for a few novelty ideas here and there that will in the end be more of a hassle.

Its gonna be fun and enjoyable for the whole family. But it wont be anything that will blow me away. More for the get togethers, like Mario Party.

Games I dont see the wand taking a major part in or have much comfort:
-Fighters
-Various sports (basketball, football, soccer, etc)
-Sim Racing
-3rd person games
-flight games
-RPGs
-Adventure games
-...probably a few more im too lazy to consider

The only way these games will be enjoyed decently is to throw on the appropriate add-ons.

Games that will benefit the most:
-FPP
-Rail games
-Party
-Baseball (um yay...., however this would make sence what with Japans obsession with the sport.)
-Fishing...


Of course you can implement the motion aspects into any genre in some creative way, but for the heft of the game its not gonna be much.

Then again Im probably just to closed minded on the whole thing. And will have to see the ' light' a bit later then everyone else.
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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 17:21
Since Mario appears everywhere I' m wondering if we' ll see Counter-Strike: Mario now that Nintendo has got a taste for FPS .

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 17:26

Here' s what I' d like it to be:

-Actual HD support


It' s going to be possible through USB - it' s almost official (they said it but didn' t really explain much) - there' s a lot of pressure from developers.

As for the secret I think it' s something great - depending on how you look at it , it' s as big or almost as big as the controller itself.

I think it has something to do with visuals (not HD) - they have patented some new " view perspective" optimal for games so I wanna see this in action :)

Still it could be some minor feature , but features like that are often underestimated (like microphone in DS).

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 21:05

they have patented some new " view perspective"


VR headset!! [:' (]

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RE: Revolution graphics - Apr 09, 2006 21:21
VR, ...Stereoscopic 3D, Optical projection...

It' s all possible.

Maybe...

SMELLOVISION!!!!


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