EVERYTHING PS3

Sony' s Playststion 3 is not MY main priority right now, although i AM keeping my eye on it like pretty much everybody else. I do think everything we know and have on the machine is worth compiling though.

So, anything worth knowing or seeing can just be posted in here.

Since the video' s we' ve all seen of the PS3 demo' s shown at GDC were very bad quality, i' m posting stills (actual photo' s, not stills from the videos) of the demo' s running during the presentation.

The stills are generally much clearer although one or two DO still leave a lot to be desired. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT EVEN SITES LIKE IGN DON' T HAVE THESE IMAGES...

Firstly, the games...

Ratchet & Clank









Resistance







MotorStorm







Warhawk







Heavenly Sword







Ok, i' m not posting The Getaway and the F1 interface shots because a) The Getaway didn' t show anything new and there are proper screens available already that show off it' s quality, ...and b) the F1 interface wasn' t all that impressive and it just what they would like to do and not a representation of what the game will be like.

Now for the non-games (tech-demos)

Vehicle Dynamics











Heavenly Sword/Ragdolls







Ok, now i do have more but i need to sift through what i' ve got and decide what is worth putting up.

What i will draw your attention to is one of the F1 interface slides. Now, in the bottom right-hand corner one of the players is holding a pad. See for yourself...



If that' s just a Dual Shock 2 stock image then the interface is pretty much bullshit and Sony are just trying to impress AGAIN. Yes the pad is wired but there are also wired 360 pads and there will probably be wired PS3 pads too.

It' s probably nothing.



Anyway, ...for comparison, i' m ALSO posting screens taken from the E3 CG video' s which should give you an idea of how close PS3 will get to them.

MotorStorm









Warhawk





Heavenly Sword





Resistance



While they might not be perfect for comparing the visual quality, it' s all we have to go off right now.

I' ll update shortly once i' ve sorted the rest of my stuff out.

I wanna know exactly what you do.... I envy the time you have.

(Lucky sod)

Can we comment on what you have put up?

Or is this a provide info only forum?

Comments are always encouraged!

I' m adding higher resolution video' s of the Warhawk, MotorStorm and Lair video' s. They are much better than the ones on youtube.com and have sound.

Warhawk

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PRUZSWBM

MotorStorm

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04FAF0Y1

Lair

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7MX6303M

Now because they are being hosted by megaupload.com, you have to wait 45 seconds or so, and towards the end of the countdown a popup will appear over the counter/download link and you' ll need to close it to download the file.

Thoughts?!

UPDATE: here are the Heavenly Sword, Car Destruction and The Getaway videos. Again they are higher resolution and have sound.

The Getaway

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DGRSFENZFVP42KH78BV929INP

Heavenly Sword/Car Destruction

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ER2Q60Y7MBN20VNSKRTOPILRF

UPDATE: this is the final video i' m posting, it' s the UT2007, duck and fish demo' s from GDC this year. It' s a direct download too.

http://zdmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o1/New_Folder/...wmv_640x360.zip

What are the chances of Lair being actual gameplay Majik?

In my opinion, someone' s been sniffing and getting high on the fumes of Panzer
Dragoon a bit too much.

It is a stunning demo, amidst a load of clouds and rain. And with all this talk
about companies using the console' s in-game engine to render graphics as
opposed to going to expensive developers really makes me wonder.

Oh, and explain " anti-aliasing" please Majik...

There is technological jargon that I have yet to come to grips with..

Well majik, nice thread, I' m sure despite your efforts that hundreds more ps3 threads will still come about.
Also thanks for the car damage vid, it' s the only one I hadn' t seen yet and wanted to - Although I' m getting server busy atm.

As for the PS3 GDC stuff... well i was reasonably please with what was shown at GDC, and originally impressed with the water effect on warhawk (like farcry 360), however that feeling left me shortly after watching the craft fly RIGHT above the water, and there being absolutely no .... what' s the word.... reaction to the water.
I like the mud demo (motorstorm) because even if people think it' s nothing new, IF the team use it as they say... It' ll be nice to see new things done. I mean that the cars creating obsticles in the effect of bumpy roads. (I don' t think i' ve really seen this in a game before (last gen) - and can' t wait for a snow boarding game to use the idea. (ssx5?)

I can' t wait for E3 to see what has really been happening in the world of PS3 development, and this new pad (Nintendo rip off anyone? - I mean building suspense on a pad... Come on Sony..)

Well for now, this is all.

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y' know it' s a sad thing when the thing that excites me most is that there' s a possible ps3 controller that vary' s from that ridiculous bananna-handle design.
sigh... there needs to be more news on this son of a biscuit! I can already tell that it' s gonna be a long month untill e3.

Now granted all the video' s look really pretty, all probably using some revolutionary new physics engine that hasn' t even been revealed yet, like all
supposed real-coughprerendered-time videos right?. but untill i can see someone with a controller in their hand, and the little person/aircraft/dragon/soldier/rubber duck? moving around on the screen, i' ve got to be impartial with sony on this one.

This is a good idea though, maybe this one will stem the flow of OMGOMGOMG! it' s so pretty! kind of posts, in about a month when e3 hits.

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Well I for one wanted to give that bat-erang controller a go, It was something new and I didn' t find it as bad as everyone was saying. Still I hope they do well with the controller.

As for the screen comparrison on motorstorm... Well I don' t find it disappointing, the demo shown does look similar (look it has mud and a yellow buggy thing). Sony said the videos were representations of how they expect the games to be like (or something to that extent i guess). Already they are trying with the mud bumping and spraying (technical terms here as you can see ) clinging to cars etc. I believe they showed stuff like this in the CGI right? If they can do all the things they did in the demo, it might be a pretty fun game. - I' m still not gonna buy it though (Even if it did look like the CGI)

It will indeed be a long time to E3, Sony have their speech on like the 8th of may if i remember correctly, a couple days before E3. So that' ll be nice.


PS. Still don' t find that Ratchet and Clank demo impressive - I think i' ve set my expectations way too high. Crysis, and that cell-something game you showed a vid of majik, they look cool... - the latter for it' s fun and coolness factor.

PPS. THe thing about the motorstorm vids is, the mud on the CG looks wet so the mud splash looks right, but the demo looks like desert, doesn' t seem right...

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The PS3 controller concept was said to be VERY comfortable, but it still looked horrible...



...but i don' t think the re-design will be vastly different. Maybe, i dunno, ...something like...





They need to move the left analog stick to where the d-pad is though, the whole symmetrical think they' ve had going on since PSone needs changing!

I used to agree with you about the analog, but it' s grown on me.. and I actually prefer it now, my thumb slips off with i use it the other way now..

Besides the D-Pad is in the perfect place for when they bring 2D back in ultra high res!!

Yep thats right folk capcom, exclusively for PS2 (for the d-pad placement) will release a new installment in the street fighter series... The hinted and rumoured Street Fighter 4 from a while back? No... Street Fighter........II.........but now in all new High Res.
- Could you imagine giving Capcom the chance to further milk street fighter games by re-releasing all the games upscaled to HD - without new sprites or anything.

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Im sure sony delivers a great hand control they have to many people who can make a great controller and to much experience to now what sucks and not,that controller they showed at e3 sucked by the look,but mayby it was nice to hold O_o .

XBox360 control is superb,and now i hope ps3' s gonna be too.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

what bothers websites about ps3 controler is not the look but how it' ll hold in the hand, it just feel awkward, i had the same feeling but i think sony is not stupid to release something awkward specialy after dual shock 2, they could just keep it if they didn' t know hwo to make something better ... well may be they forced because of that lawsuit... but anyway, i think if they keep that " boomrang" it' ll be nice too ..

I think the PS3 concept controller is coolest looking controller ever created.
It looks like a piece of art and the choice of colour is great.
I think the symmetrical design is great but the old analog sticks needs to be improved. There have never been enough resistance in those.
But the concept controller still looks very uncomfortable.
I hope Sony does what they always do and steal a new d-pad from someone else. Preferably Segas Saturn d-pad. If they steal that I' ll buy PS3 at launch!

That looks much nicer than Sony' s concept, but bthe thing that mos people don' t realise about the concept they showed is that it' s very small and all the buttons can be accessed very easily.

For some reason, many people think it looks big and you' d have to stretch your fingers...

If thats what they think,then how tiresome doesnt NR controller looks to be,i mean holding your arms in the air,both of them with a distance :S

And i been in the army wearing 5kilo ak5 for hours.
Before someone write 5kilo? :P
Well we also had 25 kilo backpack on the back,and when you have to pretend like you aim at the forest like in real combat with 5 kilo gun all the freaking time for hours,your arms fall aparat.

Well for a general gamer,this will be tiresome,...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I actually prefer Sonys concept controller. The one you' re showing looks like a normal controller. It' s got the nice colours but it needs that boomerang shape to really get attention.
Quez, the army sounds like great preparation for the Nintendo controller. I wouldn' t want to fight you in Metroid Prime 3 Online.

Or in Advanced Warfighter!

Im level 5 now,without any cheat,i have lost 3 games of around 200+ in team deatmatch.
No joke,dont belive me,challenge me,i be on tomorrow,and after that day and so on,challenge me any time.
Me and funner is angry people,we gonna play graw tomorrow again.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

sorry Majik, i should have clarified, when i said the thing about the controller, i meant when i can play it myself, or see some member of the public play it, then i' ll be satisfied.

Yes, the controller is smaller than i expected, my friend has a mock-up, and the buttons are placed a little bit better than the dualshock. My big problem though is the tiny thumbsticks, they already look small in the picture, and they feel even smaller in my hand, It' d be great if they' d switch over to a concave design, something akin to the 360. but i suppose that' s unrealistic. sony' s too stuck up to use a good idea.

no thats untrue, they steal other companys good ideas. Shame on you for bringing down sonys name!

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

They havent managed to steal a good d-pad yet though...

I get disgusted by juse hearing the word " D-PAD" :S i remember my old pc controllers that had those.YUCK!!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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They are required for games that you maybe don' t play. Games like KOF or Gradius (Terry), ...sometimes Quez an analog stick just doesn' t cut it!

Now you could argue that the kind of games that require d-pads would play much better using an arcade stick, but only a small number of people are willing to shell out for such an item, ...especially when a good d-pad does a more than passable job!

I' m trying to play Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max on the PSP with the regular d-pad on the PSP. It works... sometimes. it' s kind of frustrating to lose 10 fights in a row when you know you would have won if you just had a better d-pad.
Sure, I suck at Street Fighter, but still. I would suck less if i had a better d-pad.
I' m thinking of taking an old Saturn pad and mount it on the PSP. You think that would work?

again, i made a mistake, sony won' t claim they stole anything.[:' (] (I can hear the Immersion execs lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks)

a good d-pad does a more than passable job

playing Metal Gear or any of the 2d Zelda games are a testament to that.
Semi-floating off topic, not having a green-machine myself i have to ask, are there any good games on Marketplace that play better on a d-pad?

guys here is some news about ps3 according to ps3 magazine

1) Monolith will release an exclusive game to PS3.

2) Hiroyuki Kobayashi, producer of Devil May Cry 4, think it would be better if ps3 be released in 2007.

3) you can take your photo via eye toy and make it as your avatar in the playstation network platform.

4) what is most probably the line up of ps3;

Lair

MotorStorm

Tom Clancy' s Rainbow Six : Vegas

Resistance: The Fall of Man

Stranglehold

Sonic The Hedgehog: Resistance

Tekken 6

Untold Legends : Dark Kingdom


4) Level 5 developers (dark cloud, dragon quest..) develop a PS3 RPG.

5) the next issue of playstation magazine will cover the new game from free radical.

I agree with Majik about Sony still needing to steal a good d-pad.. Come on Sony, steal the Saturn d-pad idea, I sure as hell won' t hold it against you for stealing a d-pad made by " GOD" ...

I LOVE d-pads way more than I do analog sticks, always have, and probably always will.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

I agree with you there terry

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I don' t think they will you know I think they will be stealing something though.

Revmote!

Yeah that would be funny if they turned the boomerang into something like the rev *shudders at the possibility*.

No, it' s be copyright infringement.

They won' t drastically alter their standard controller, but at some point they may introduce a Revmote-esque controller for specific games or whatever.

I hope they don' t do it, but if it takes off well (the rev and it' s controller) bet m$ and sony are quick to copy.

I am happy with conventional controllers for most games, would like to get my hands on the " revmote" though to see how it works.

PS3 and rev are the only 2 machines i currently care about. This is because they hold promise, whereas 360 is old now and im not blown away and though I know i wont be by ps3 either (unless some miracle happens) it' s fine to dream. The 360 has some good games coming, but they don' t sell me the machine... after seeing God of War 2 trailer, i was thinking yeah i' d buy that to play on my PS3 (and the only game i currently am hoping to play on it )

Did see on joystiq some mario rev alledged screens at both 480i/p and though they are probably faked, I was impressed and am more happy to see something like that than red steel.

Anyway I' m tired and i' m sure this is quite jumbled, so i' ll just say, roll on E3.

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The folks at Team Xbox have picked up the latest issue of PSM, also known as the Unofficial PlayStation Magazine, and let us know that the magazine is claiming to have the official launch date and price of Sony' s latest game console. The PlayStation 3 is set to launch in early November, just in time for the post-Thanksgiving shopping frenzy, simultaneously with its online service. The asking price? $399 for US, €322 for Europe, and ¥45,965 in Japan.

While we' re sure that a magazine entirely devoted to Sony' s platform has some pretty good inside sources, and the prices and date seem pretty likely, consider this speculation until we get the official word from Sony (or, at least, the Official PlayStation Magazine).

Taken from Joystiq, Sounds reasonable to me, wish they' d say a uk price not Euro' s though... but in any event if this hold true, I think it' s a good sign for people (like myself) aiming to get a PS3... (also that sony will lose lots and lots of money with this one)

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Well if thats true it would be £224 or £225 but that would be a big dip wouldn' t it? not a very good idea I don' t think. Because a) if you' re going to do that you would have to e sure it' s gonna totally sell out and always be in demand and b) it' s going to take longer to recoop. Any way it will be interesting to see.

Well got to correct you uumai, it was stated in euros as in europe, its the offical curreny. Not the sterling.

322 euros sounds very reasonable for the ps3, since 360' s went for 600+ and the ps3 is meant to have the uber fantatsic blue ray, cell chip and the 60gb hdd inclucded which probley includes a controller and a demo disc. Isnt bad, hell i' d say Sony are great to offer us such a low price, expecially if the online really turns out to free in the long run, i am still a little bit iffy about that. Cant wait to e3!

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Either sony is gone completely nuts and are willing to do next to anything to stay on top or they have something else at hand like slimming down the package or something...either way it will be very interesting to see how this ' ' console war' ' drives the main players.

or trying to make blue ray mainstream and make buket loads from it, from rolyites by other film companys using it. Sony want blue ray to sell, and sell well. If they sell out the ps3. make a loss. Its only a small loss compared to the massive fortune that they can make in the blue ray.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

UUMAI do you have any links or something to those fake Mario images?

I' d love to see them :)