Virtua Fighter 5 on 360+arcade? wtf?!

is this fake?
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2532

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Misguided maybe as it' s not been officially announced for any console yet.

Still, if it only ends up on 360 i' ll laugh my head off at poor old Sony. I seriously hope Microsoft have paid tons for exclusivity because i know there was a exclusivity battle going on for this title amongst others in December, and we' ve heard nothing since.

I want my VF5!!!

Yeah,it was one of the newest trailer and come up today.
At the same time as the event...so well..we will see.
Wouldn' t suprice me at all if it in fact did.
SEGA want to become a huge western publish and releasing it for 360 very soon is a good idea,cause then they have racing,rpg,action,rts,sports and fighting games covered in their publish genre for ocnsoles.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

VF5 exclusivity could swing things massively for MS in territories it is currently failing to gain a foothold. I' d love it on console. It looks fantastic. Shame they will want to leave it a while to let the arcades make their money!!

it would be nice ,but laughing at Sony wouldn' t be very smart since no VF game has ever sold good.

My guess is it could be different this time if it' s online and Arcade Perfect Conversion (for the first time) - plus it' s released soon after Arcade version.

(VF3 for DC was released years after arcade so it' s no surprise it was like the Arcade Version)

no VF game has ever sold good

Actually they have. Saturn VF2 and PS2 VF4 original managed to sell over 1 million units. DC VF3 sold poorly due to the game being 2 years old at the time, and the featureless home conversion didn' t help matters either.

Making VF5 a 360 exclusive would be a huge mistake for SEGA. The game is only popular with the hardcore audience in the west which make up just a small percentage of the industry today. Secondly, VF alone can no longer sell a console in which the Japanese have little interest, and much less support for.

The fact is most hardcore gamers in both Japan and in the west are waiting for PS3 as it would seem at the moment that' s the machine which will gain the most support. Just like PS2 had with Tekken, Vampire Night, King Of Fighters, XenoSaga, Star Ocean, Time Crisis, Guilty Gear, etc.

The only exception was Sega' s early Xbox exclusives like Panzer Dragoon Orta and JSRF, which although excellent were still not enough to convince gamers in Japan that the XB was the one to get.

I would rather VF5 have more guaranteed success on PS3 rather than dissapointing sales which SEGA cannot afford to have on such a high profile title.

best thing would be if VF5 was ported to PS3 and 360 AND PC.. I feel a game as good as VF should be on all formats, especially if they can handle a decent conversion. When u do Multiplatform you might aswell do it properly.

And as for a VF game ' online' .. No chance in hell..

VF has a 60fps hit-/collision/ratio.. You' ll need a mega fast BroadBsnd connection to mantain its tight, instant gameplay mechanics..

Games such as ' DOA' and ' Tekken' could get away with it, but VF, no way in hell.

VF5 was ported to PS3 and 360 AND PC

I completely agree. However SEGA in terms of their Japanese management are more likely to release the game exclusively for the most popular console in their home territory. Also I believe that AM2 once said that they had inadiquate resources to pull off large multiplatform projects. It was the reason they didn' t internally do the conversion of OutRun2 or SP.

Maybe if SEGA Europe push for a multi-platform conversion then it may well happen. Hopefully it does, just as long as both PS3 and 360 conversions are arcade perfect.

Online VF would be cool, although I remember reading an interview with Yu Susuki stating that it would require ' super broardband' (fibre optics) style speeds to have it work perfectly. Maybe with VF6 when broadband speeds that are fast enough and are at reasonable costs.

" Not sold good?" LOL

Actually VF4 is pretty much the higest grossing game ever in Japan on any format: In the arcade. I believe it' s the highest player-to-spend ratio of any game in history. To be good there you spend $5000 on playing over the last 5 years. VF is massively profitable and it will be moreso with VF5 becaue Sega owns the arcade venues and the VF.net infrastructure. They' re seemingly onto a massive winner.

As Kyo mentioned VF2 is also the best selling console 3D fighter in Japan as well.

Western VF4 sales on PS2 were respectable.

VF5 anticipation is quite high and I am sure a PS3 version would do quite well.

By the way everyone look at these direct feed gameplay videos NOW.

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200604/025.asp

Saw those this morning. To say they made my day would be an understatement. I haven' t been this excited about VF since the arcade release of VF3.

You can see clearly in the vids just how much the play style has changed, looking like a perfect cross between VF3 and 4. Hopefully SEGA will release this over in the UK, even if it' s just in a standard Naomi universal cabnet (the display is still awesome).

Either that or I' m going to find an execuse to travel all the way to Japan.

As for Virtua Fighter games doing poorly :P...

On the MagicBox platinum selling list the Saturn version of Virtua Fighter 2 sold At least 1.7 million copies in Japan alone. That' s not even counting the stores that the charts didn' t track. That' s beyond phenomenal and like Adam said, easily the best selling 3D fighter in Japan..

Virtua Fighter 3 had to be one of the most popular arcade games in Japanese history, with one of the most dominating performances in arcade gaming history. I believe it remained #1 on the Japanese Top ten arcade charts for 3 years straight.

Virtua Fighter 4 sold surprisingly well in the U.S. with at least 500,000 copies sold, it showed that U.S. gamers were finally warming up to the series. The series is already uber popular in Japan,

While I hate the word " exclusive" when it comes to 3rd party games, if Virtua Fighter 5 does go to a single platform, I to would like to see it land on the console with the highest install base in Japan. That' s where its bread n' butter is at...

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

I to would like to see it land on the console with the highest install base in Japan.

That console could even be Revolution...

That console could even be Revolution...

Abso-friggin-Lutely!!!

If the Revolution leads in Japan then I' d want Virtua Fighter 5 on that hot rockin machine! But I swear, if the game ever did get released on the Revolution and Mario winds up being a playable fighter in the game, I' m killing SOMEBODY, ANYBODY!!

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

The VF5 videos look great by the way. And i' m so psyched to see which console it will land on.

VF5 looks as awesome as i expected.

Still need a few tweaks (noticed a few little collision bugs).. but overall its looking hot, animation looks the part and the backgrounds are lush.. the Music tho.. im not so sure about.. One track sounds like a soundtrack to Soul calibur, while another one to Castlevania?? But..the more i here them, the more they grow on me..

If the Revolution leads in Japan then I' d want Virtua Fighter 5 on that hot rockin machine! But I swear, if the game ever did get released on the Revolution and Mario winds up being a playable fighter in the game, I' m killing SOMEBODY, ANYBODY!!

HAAhAA!


More like buying a Revolution with a copy Vf5, and Ten Revolution controllers to attach to each of your limbs..

I didn' t mean that VF4 Arcade isn' t profitable.

I think a game like VF4 - made for a system with huge userbase ,should sell more than 500 k in US.I guess fighting games don' t sell so well anymore.

I had no idea about VF2 though :)


The Online thing sux - I have noone to play VF with so that' s why I' d love to play online.

I do understand however why it can' t be done ...shit

I think a game like VF4 - made for a system with huge userbase ,should sell more than 500 k in US.I guess fighting games don' t sell so well anymore.

You' re right in that the Virtua Fighter games should sell a truckload, but you have to remember that 500,000 copies sold in the U.S. is a Great step for the series in a region that hadn' t warmed up to it in the past because many felt the games were too complex with too high of a learning curve. There' s like a night and day difference between the popularity of the series in the U.S. and Japan... Baby steps

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

i' m no pro in virtua fighter , in fact i never owned a virtua fighter although i played all of them , anyway i' m Supernoob.

still i' ve seen videos in kikzo about virtua fighter 5, and i' m extremly disapointed, it seems like fighting games don' t evolve a bit, tha animation is sooo this gen, same kinf of moves, same physics, no real weight to the fighters, same way to block attacks... i mean what' s the fuss all about, the gameplay ? hearing peopel talking about this game is like a revolution in gihthing games which i don' t see any... i don' t know how the controls are but from the look of the video this is vitua fighter 4 with nicer graphics, virtua fighter 4 which in return is virtua fighter 3 with nicer graphics...

i guess i could say the same from the evolution of tekken

tekken 3 --- 4 ---- 5 well almost

i eexpect a lot from ps3/xbox360... it feels like graphics are getting so top notch bud sadly the animation doesn' t match that realistic level at all.

to sum up,

after seeing video of virtua fighter 5, there was no WOW at all...

that kind of shock ater seeing MGS4 or gears of war or even fight night round 3.

i don' t know how the controls are but from the look of the video this is vitua fighter 4 with nicer graphics, virtua fighter 4 which in return is virtua fighter 3 with nicer graphics...

There are noticeable and subtle differences between Virtua Fighter 3 and Virtua Fighter 4 , which is why I still prefer Virtua Fighter 3.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Why evolve a game that' s already perfect?

there is nothing in this game that shows next-gen except for graphics, and even those they are not very impressive.

But what' s next-gen for you? I mean, why the hell should they alter it so much that it becomes something else than Virtua Fighter when the game probably is as good as a fighter can get. Sure they could do the same things as with Fight Night Round 3 but then it wouldn' t be Virtua Fighter anymore. Some things just don' t need much improvement even though there is a new generation of hardware.

man i mentioned fight night for its graphics, i said virtua fighter is not as impressive... and they do much better.

what they can improve, animation, how fighters interact with each other.

Hmm, you' re right! That could be improved.
You' re saying you didn' t go WOW when you saw the trailers but did DoA4 make you go WOW? Beause if it did and VF5 did not then I find it strange. I find it hard for fighting games to really give you that WOW feeling. The VF5 trailers made me go more like " oh yeeeeeah!" . You know that gut feeling when you just know it' s gonna be good .

no DOA was worse.... i said fight night round 3, and tekken 6 if the characetrs look actualy like the Jin they showed

Abasoufiane is that a final Fantasy charactor there? are u a fan it it?

yes it is , although i' m not sure if that' s Tidus or cloud, but it' s probably Cloud...
and yes i' m fan of final fantasy games , i' m a huuuuuge fan 6 7 8 9 1 0 10-2 , beat them all

why you asking f3hunter ?

yes it is , although i' m not sure if that' s Tidus or cloud, but it' s probably Cloud...
and yes i' m fan of final fantasy games , i' m a huuuuuge fan 6 7 8 9 1 0 10-2 , beat them all

Well FF hasnt exactly ' evolved' over the years has it? lol

Well I for one really liked Virtua Fighter 2. Since 32 bit died so has a lot of my interest in fighting games. VF4 was cool though, didn' t get into 3 much on the DC, but by no means am I good at the games, just competent enough to get by. The VF5 trailers look great, and I love the series for it' s depth, to see pro level people playing is nice.

However I understand what Abasoufiane is saying to a degree. Without drastically changing the game system I am sure they could have altered how characters interact. It was mentioned in another thread (I think " what do you expect from next gen" ) about character really blocking moves, having proper animations for it, rather than how it currently stands.
Anyone ever play the Naruto games on Gamecube? See the way that Shikamaru guards - he dodges rather than block. It doesn' t cause him to play different from the other characters (Except, obviously, guard damage) but it looks much better. Now I' m not asking for much dodging, but it would look much more like what you see in a film if they' d have better animation.

But for the graphics, they are very nice, and I don' t at this stage expect anything truely amazing just yet, so I guess the same can go for the animation...

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

f3hunter are u kidding me?
final fantasy has always and always changed a lot

Story
Combat system
graphics
sound (at least from generation to generation)

man i just read an article about this idea that people have about final fantasy, that it doesn' t evolve.. damn i forgot where i read that , 1up may be ... anyway your statement is totaly wrong.

uumai thanks i see you got my point,

as for graphics i didn' t say they' re bad , they are good , but i expect " much" better from ps3 and 360. i guess we will see visualy the same difference from Tekken tag tournement to tekken 5 in this generation as well.

Nomatter what console this game lands on, it will not look this good, the sega lindbergh hardware is far and away better then any home console this coming generation.

As for what console it lands on, may the highest bidder win, as contrary to what most playstation fanatics would have you believe, there are lots of xbox 360 fence sitters waiting to see what happens when all 3 consoles are in market.
If virtua fighter 5 is on the xbox 360, the xbox will gain market share.

As to say, the japanese don' t dis-like or even hate the xbox 360, they are just biding their time.

There are noticeable and subtle differences between Virtua Fighter 3 and Virtua Fighter 4 , which is why I still prefer Virtua Fighter 3.

AMEN!

Only a true pro would say that.

I think this next generation is way ' over expected' on the graphics-terms..

Now these machines are rendering in higher resolutions alot of the this ' extra' power wont be all on purely animations/FX build but also trying to render the bleedin demanding resolutions..

to me the biggest part of next gen gaming is bringing games in HD to the masses (althogh PC gamers, wont find this part anything special)

People expect toystory CGI grpahics (which is quite old now).. but that is just not gonna happen..


VF5 looks awesome! its the finer details which makes the game, VF4 already had the best animation anyway but VF5 improves on that alittle, details such as the way your character raises his/her leg at the same time as blocking a high/mid attack, or the way limbs ' bounce' of an opponents block in a weighty manner.. the realistic manner in how characters ' stumble' when off balance.. these little finer details that make the gameplay and make VF what it is..

Im sure if you ever get to play the game in person on your PS3/360 or PC (if they happen).. all will be apparent.

(ask or read the people ' who have played it in person' .. ive only read/heard ' its te best looking game soo far'

listen to this guy (from 1up) who played it and what he had to say about it: http://zdmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o1/Podcasts/040706.mp3

Nomatter what console this game lands on, it will not look this good, the sega lindbergh hardware is far and away better then any home console this coming generation.

Actually Lindberg is nowhere near 360 or PS3 in terms of performance - the only advantage is
RAM - 1024MB - but there can be no LOADINGS in the Arcade so that' s the reason.

CPU is P4 3 GHz and GPU has 256MB Ram (with new vertex shader 3.0 and pixel shader 3.0)

In terms of cpu hardware and available memory, it kicks the stuffing out of both.

The pentium 4 is a much better CPU all around, better then both the xbox 360, and cell combines, OOO processors are always better then risc.
And the system has 512 megs of system, and 256 for video.

Don' t get me wrong, the cell and the xenos are no slouch, but a stock pentium 4, or even pre hyperthreading, has more beef to it.

Wait, hold on here...

Where it say' s: RAM: 184 pin DDR SDRAM PC3200(400 MHz) 512 MB × 2(Dual)
Does that mean it comes stock with 1024megs of ram?

In that case......

The differences between VF3 and VF4 aren' t subtle, they' re pretty obvious!

The pentium 4 is a much better CPU all around, better then both the xbox 360, and cell combines, OOO processors are always better then risc.

hahaluia my cpu 3ghz is better than 360 and ps3 processors