Nintendo is for dickless dweebs and 40yrd Virgins

And yet they are all available on other consoles too.

These are just some of the action games on xbox,i cant add in more then 200 from the list...compare our list.
And ps2 has a much bigger list.



1. Halo: Combat Evolved XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 83 8.8 95.7%
2. Halo 2 XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 99 8.3 95.2%
3. Soul Calibur II XBOX Namco 63 8.6 91.6%
4. Psychonauts XBOX Majesco Games 53 8.1 90.3%
5. Half-Life 2 XBOX Electronic Arts 34 8.9 90.1%
6. Panzer Dragoon Orta XBOX Sega 83 8.3 90.0%
7. Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 88 8.5 89.7%
8. Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 43 8.2 88.2%
9. The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay XBOX VU Games 80 8.5 88.2%
10. Tom Clancy' s Rainbow Six 3 XBOX Ubisoft 69 8.3 88.0%
11. Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 XBOX Ubisoft 69 8.6 88.0%
12. TimeSplitters 2 XBOX Eidos Interactive 48 8.0 87.5%
13. Doom 3 XBOX Activision 88 8.2 87.3%
14. Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict XBOX Midway 51 8.0 87.1%
15. Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance XBOX Konami 59 8.4 87.0%
16. Far Cry Instincts XBOX Ubisoft 62 8.6 86.9%
17. MechAssault XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 70 7.9 86.6%
18. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne XBOX Rockstar Games 56 8.2 86.1%
19. The Warriors XBOX Rockstar Games 51 7.9 85.9%
20. Dead or Alive 3 XBOX Tecmo 63 8.3 85.8%
21. JSRF: Jet Set Radio Future XBOX Sega 82 7.7 85.7%
22. Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon XBOX Ubisoft 60 8.0 85.5%
23. Max Payne XBOX Rockstar Games 57 8.1 85.3%
24. Guilty Gear X2 #Reload XBOX Majesco Games 39 7.8 85.1%
25. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King XBOX EA Games 42 8.0 85.1%
26. Tom Clancy' s Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow XBOX Ubisoft 54 8.1 84.8%
27. TimeSplitters: Future Perfect XBOX EA Games 62 8.5 84.7%
28. Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy XBOX Midway 58 8.1 84.3%
29. Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Tides of War XBOX Activision 64 8.2 84.1%
30. Metal Arms: Glitch in the System XBOX VU Games 49 7.7 83.9%
31. Star Wars: Battlefront II XBOX LucasArts 34 8.8 83.7%
32. James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing XBOX EA Games 56 8.2 83.6%
33. Dead or Alive Ultimate XBOX Tecmo 69 8.4 83.6%
34. Def Jam: Fight for NY XBOX EA Games 57 7.5 83.5%
35. Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood XBOX Ubisoft 40 8.3 83.4%
36. Unreal Championship XBOX Atari 63 8.0 83.3%
37. Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon 2 Summit Strike XBOX Ubisoft 48 7.9 82.8%
38. Phantom Dust XBOX Majesco Games 46 7.4 82.8%
39. Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance XBOX Midway 54 7.7 82.8%
40. Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon 2 XBOX Ubisoft 61 8.0 82.6%
41. Mortal Kombat: Deception XBOX Midway 59 7.7 82.1%
42. Freedom Fighters XBOX EA Games 42 7.8 81.8%
43. Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon: Island Thunder XBOX Ubisoft 53 8.0 81.2%
44. MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 72 7.8 80.9%
45. Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks XBOX Midway 43 7.4 80.8%
46. Battlefield 2: Modern Combat XBOX EA Games 53 8.1 80.7%
47. Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO XBOX Capcom 44 7.4 80.7%
48. James Bond 007: NightFire XBOX Electronic Arts 44 7.6 80.3%
49. Project: Snowblind XBOX Eidos Interactive 44 7.6 80.1%
50. Star Wars: Battlefront XBOX LucasArts 53 8.0 79.8%
51. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One XBOX Activision 55 8.2 79.4%
52. Hunter: The Reckoning XBOX Interplay 70 7.4 79.3%
53. Star Wars Republic Commando XBOX LucasArts 50 8.2 79.1%
54. Medal of Honor Frontline XBOX EA Games 42 7.6 78.9%
55. The Suffering: Ties That Bind XBOX Midway 43 7.4 78.8%
56. Oddworld: Munch' s Oddysee XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 56 7.4 78.7%
57. Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast XBOX LucasArts 58 7.2 78.5%
58. Conker: Live and Reloaded XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 83 8.2 78.5%
59. Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter XBOX LucasArts 44 6.7 78.3%
60. Darkwatch XBOX Capcom 49 7.7 78.3%
61. Street Fighter Anniversary Collection XBOX Capcom 42 7.9 78.1%
62. Black XBOX EA Games 44 7.6 78.1%
63. kill.switch XBOX Namco 44 7.3 78.0%
64. Spider-Man: The Movie XBOX Activision 57 7.1 78.0%
65. Ultimate Spider-Man XBOX Activision 56 7.6 77.9%
66. Brute Force XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 93 7.5 77.8%
67. Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil XBOX Activision 45 7.9 77.7%
68. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers XBOX EA Games 35 7.6 77.7%
69. Hitman: Contracts XBOX Eidos Interactive 44 7.7 77.6%
70. Red Faction II XBOX THQ 36 7.2 77.6%
71. Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc XBOX Ubisoft 37 7.3 77.5%
72. Armed and Dangerous XBOX LucasArts 55 7.4 77.4%
73. Robotech: Battlecry XBOX TDK Mediactive 39 6.9 77.2%
74. Sniper Elite XBOX Namco 27 6.0 77.2%
75. Dynasty Warriors 3 XBOX Koei 21 7.4 77.1%
76. Serious Sam XBOX Gotham Games 45 7.3 77.0%
77. Voodoo Vince XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 71 7.3 76.5%
78. Metal Slug 3 XBOX SNK 69 7.9 76.4%
79. Sonic Mega Collection Plus XBOX Sega 22 8.1 76.3%
80. Conflict: Desert Storm XBOX Gotham Games 32 6.8 76.1%
81. Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy XBOX LucasArts 40 7.4 75.8%
82. Battle Engine Aquila XBOX Atari 44 6.5 75.6%
83. The King of Fighters 02/03 XBOX SNK 32 6.6 75.5%
84. XIII XBOX Ubisoft 56 7.2 75.3%
85. Dead to Rights XBOX Namco 70 7.1 75.3%
86. Kung Fu Chaos XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 72 7.2 75.2%
87. Area 51 XBOX Midway 40 7.4 74.8%
88. Tak 2: The Staff of Dreams XBOX THQ 27 7.4 74.8%
89. Shrek SuperSlam XBOX Activision 23 5.8 74.7%
90. Serious Sam II XBOX 2K Games 36 7.3 74.7%
91. Red Dead Revolver XBOX Rockstar Games 64 7.5 74.5%
92. Sonic Heroes XBOX Sega 33 7.5 74.2%
93. Dynasty Warriors 4 XBOX Koei 30 8.2 74.2%
94. Blinx: The Time Sweeper XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 70 6.4 73.9%
95. Tom Clancy' s Rainbow Six: Lockdown XBOX Ubisoft 45 7.1 73.7%
96. Vexx XBOX Acclaim 42 6.7 73.6%
97. Medal of Honor: European Assault XBOX Electronic Arts 47 7.1 73.5%
98. Men of Valor XBOX VU Games 47 7.3 73.5%
99. Pitfall: The Lost Expedition XBOX Activision 45 6.0 73.4%
100. SWAT: Global Strike Team XBOX Sierra Entertainment 31 6.6 73.1%
101. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Chaos Bleeds XBOX Sierra Entertainment 36 6.7 72.9%
102. Counter-Strike XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 64 7.3 72.9%
103. Hunter: The Reckoning Redeemer XBOX VU Games 37 7.2 72.6%
104. The Punisher XBOX THQ 53 7.6 72.4%
105. Call of Duty: Finest Hour XBOX Activision 56 7.6 72.4%
106. Dr. Muto XBOX Midway 27 6.5 72.3%
107. Gunvalkyrie XBOX Sega 50 6.9 72.2%
108. Madagascar XBOX Activision 27 4.4 72.1%
109. Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone XBOX Atari 21 6.7 72.1%
110. BloodRayne XBOX Majesco Games 39 6.8 72.1%
111. BloodRayne 2 XBOX Majesco Games 35 7.1 71.9%
112. Total Overdose: A Gunslinger' s Tale in Mexico XBOX Eidos Interactive 27 7.3 71.8%
113. Raze' s Hell XBOX Majesco Games 38 6.8 71.7%
114. The Haunted Mansion XBOX TDK Mediactive 33 6.1 71.7%
115. Shrek 2 XBOX Activision 36 5.1 71.5%
116. James Bond 007 in Agent Under Fire XBOX Electronic Arts 41 6.9 71.0%
117. Pariah XBOX Groove Games 51 7.1 71.0%
118. Grabbed by the Ghoulies XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 74 6.4 70.9%
119. The House of the Dead III XBOX Sega 47 7.1 70.7%
120. Samurai Warriors XBOX Koei 24 7.2 70.6%
121. Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee XBOX Atari 28 6.7 70.2%
122. Ultimate Fighting Championship: Tapout XBOX Crave 30 6.1 70.1%
123. Whiplash XBOX Eidos Interactive 38 5.9 69.9%
124. Metal Slug 4 & 5 XBOX SNK 34 6.2 69.9%
125. Scaler XBOX Global Star Software 29 5.8 69.7%
126. Blinx 2: Masters of Time & Space XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 53 7.0 69.7%
127. UFC: Tapout 2 XBOX TDK Mediactive 22 5.2 69.6%
128. Shark Tale XBOX Activision 24 5.0 69.6%
129. Turok: Evolution XBOX Acclaim 59 6.3 69.6%
130. Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex XBOX VU Games 34 6.3 69.6%
131. Conflict: Desert Storm II - Back to Baghdad XBOX Gotham Games 30 7.0 69.6%
132. Blood Wake XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 51 6.4 69.5%
133. America' s Army: Rise of a Soldier XBOX Ubisoft 21 8.0 69.5%
134. The Hulk XBOX VU Games 48 6.5 69.3%
135. Enter the Matrix XBOX Atari 65 6.5 69.2%
136. King of Fighters: Maximum Impact - Maniax XBOX SNK Playmore 31 6.0 69.0%
137. Tron 2.0: Killer App XBOX Buena Vista Interactive 42 6.7 69.0%
138. Van Helsing XBOX VU Games 35 6.4 68.9%
139. Close Combat: First to Fight XBOX 2K Games 48 6.7 68.7%
140. Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2: Bush Rescue XBOX EA Games 35 6.7 68.6%
141. WWE Raw 2 XBOX THQ 52 6.2 68.6%
142. Gun Metal XBOX Majesco Games 39 6.5 68.6%
143. Crash Twinsanity XBOX VU Games 32 5.8 68.4%
144. Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 61 6.3 68.3%
145. Mace Griffin Bounty Hunter XBOX VU Games 42 6.4 68.2%
146. Ty the Tasmanian Tiger XBOX EA Games 24 6.5 68.0%
147. Batman Begins XBOX EA Games 60 6.5 67.4%
148. Mafia XBOX Gathering 39 7.2 67.3%
149. Evil Dead: Regeneration XBOX THQ 38 6.6 67.3%
150. Silent Scope Complete XBOX Konami 29 6.5 67.0%
151. Defender XBOX Midway 30 6.0 66.9%
152. Terminator 3: The Redemption XBOX Atari 41 7.1 66.8%
153. Gladiator: Sword of Vengeance XBOX Acclaim 33 6.2 66.7%
154. Dragon' s Lair 3D XBOX Ubisoft 41 6.3 66.4%
155. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 XBOX Capcom 37 7.3 66.3%
156. State of Emergency XBOX Rockstar Games 39 6.2 66.0%
157. Lemony Snicket' s A Series of Unfortunate Events XBOX Activision 27 5.5 65.9%
158. Legends of Wrestling II XBOX Acclaim 26 5.4 65.9%
159. Legends of Wrestling XBOX Acclaim 21 5.3 65.5%
160. Unreal II: The Awakening XBOX Atari 31 7.0 65.3%
161. Operation Flashpoint: Elite XBOX Codemasters 27 6.9 65.0%
162. Alter Echo XBOX THQ 37 5.6 65.0%
163. Dynasty Warriors 5 XBOX Koei 28 7.7 64.7%
164. Samurai Shodown V XBOX SNK 24 6.0 64.6%
165. Conflict: Vietnam XBOX Global Star Software 42 6.1 64.5%
166. Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix XBOX Activision 56 6.6 64.3%
167. Spyro: A Hero' s Tail XBOX VU Games 22 5.9 64.2%
168. Shadow Ops: Red Mercury XBOX Atari 44 7.0 64.0%
169. WWF Raw XBOX THQ 58 5.6 64.0%
170. Bloody Roar Extreme XBOX Konami 26 5.7 63.8%
171. Tork: Prehistoric Punk XBOX Ubisoft 20 5.4 63.5%
172. Delta Force: Black Hawk Down XBOX NovaLogic 37 6.9 63.4%
173. GoldenEye: Rogue Agent XBOX EA Games 54 6.8 63.4%
174. Conflict: Global Terror XBOX 2K Games 25 7.3 63.1%
175. Medal of Honor Rising Sun XBOX EA Games 33 6.7 62.8%
176. Godzilla: Save the Earth XBOX Atari 25 5.9 62.5%
177. Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu XBOX Ubisoft 30 5.8 62.2%
178. Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick XBOX THQ 35 6.1 61.9%
179. Robotech: Invasion XBOX Global Star Software 45 5.8 61.6%
180. Fantastic 4 XBOX Activision 56 6.1 61.5%
181. Capcom Fighting Evolution XBOX Capcom 24 5.5 61.5%
182. Cold War XBOX DreamCatcher Interactive 30 7.6 61.2%
183. Futurama XBOX Sierra Entertainment 29 5.9 61.0%
184. Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects XBOX EA Games 37 6.5 60.1%
185. ShellShock: Nam ' 67 XBOX Eidos Interactive 35 7.0 60.0%
186. X-Men: Next Dimension XBOX Activision 25 5.8 58.9%
187. SVC Chaos: SNK vs. Capcom XBOX SNK 45 6.3 58.8%
188. RLH XBOX Interplay 34 6.1 58.7%
189. Vietcong: Purple Haze XBOX Gathering 34 5.4 58.0%
190. Dead Man' s Hand XBOX Atari 33 6.4 57.4%
191. Blade II XBOX Activision 33 4.8 57.0%
192. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles XBOX Konami 28 6.4 56.3%
193. Spy vs. Spy XBOX Global Star Software 36 7.0 56.3%
194. The Terminator: Dawn of Fate XBOX Atari 36 5.1 56.3%
195. Zapper XBOX Atari 22 4.3 56.2%
196. Reign of Fire XBOX Bam Entertainment 28 5.1 56.1%
197. Dead to Rights II XBOX Namco 41 6.3 55.6%
198. Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance XBOX Capcom 35 4.0 55.6%
199. WWE WrestleMania 21 XBOX THQ 54 6.4 55.0%
200. Backyard Wrestling: Don' t Try This at Home XBOX Eidos Interactive 20

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

192. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles XBOX Konami 28 6.4 56.3%
197. Dead to Rights II XBOX Namco 41 6.3 55.6%
198. Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance XBOX Capcom 35 4.0 55.6%
199. WWE WrestleMania 21 XBOX THQ 54 6.4 55.0%
200. Backyard Wrestling: Don' t Try This at Home XBOX Eidos Interactive 20

Eww, that part of the list is just GROSS!

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Bishonen are you out of high school yet?

Come on Joe, you know most of all it' s all about being COOL!!!! And Bishonen is just showing us all how COOL he is!!! He can get laid!!!!! He can be badass!!!! Hell, I bet if he wants to he can even....... TEXT MESSAGE!!!!111. One day when I shave off my stache, find some cool " draws" and stay up past 9 to catch some late night TV (cause I' m being badass and breakin curfew) I' m sure I' ll understand that it' s all about the image.

Your rebellion is over Mr. Lebowski!!!! I suggest you do what your parents did! GET A JOB!!!!

The title of this thread made me laugh. I have to say that ever since Nintendo released Mario 64 they were never able to best themselves (except for Super Smash bros.) and it was downhill from there. They are clearly not even trying to go after the hardcore gaming market anymore, instead they are focused on going after new gamers and diehard Nintendo fans. I would much rather see Nintendo go the route of Sega and make games for MS and Sony not that we will ever see that happen. I have intrest in the rumored Game Boy Evolution but other then that Nintendo isn' t even in the same playing field as the other two.

Bishonen can get laid, but it' s only with other guys. LOLXorfz!

...Uummi... ...please don' t post again until you know what you are talking about...

...because i don' t have a clue!!... ...maybe you should go back to page 1 and start again...

If you can' t understand some simple paragraphs of text then maybe you need to evaluate yourself.

A lot of people i know who like nintendo are not in these generalisation demographics you mentioned. Most, if not all people here do not fall into your description either...

So apparently, it would seem, you are wrong. Deal with it.

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

..if that is true, then it can only be one of a very, very few because children, girls and old people generally have a HUGE complexity problem... ...otherwise they would prefer Halo 2 over the Sims...

oh yeah that' s smart , the only problem is that Halo 2 isn' t deep - it' s just hard to control with two sticks for some people.

Zelda - easy to play deep and rewarding - you clearly aren' t the brightest boy in here :)

So to put it simply - " who the fuck said anything about complexity being the same as deep and sophisticated gameplay?"

It' s what revolution is all about - deep gameplay without complexity in interface.

...However, the majority of salivating, sweating lard@$$ Nintendo FB' s, tend to be male and fall in to one of two demographics (see this thread' s title)....

Show me the source of your stats for " Fan Boys" and I' ll be glad to discuss it with you.

Uumai I have to admit you reallyt have tried a few so maybe it isn' t the kind of experience you like - still I don' t get it :)

...it' s a game! It doesn' t have to be complex and it doesn' t have to have depth. It just has to be fun!!

Hell yeah ...and that sonic thing ...how can he even talk about MArio games if he has no knowledge of any of them...

Animal Crossing Vs GRAW? - I don' t really think you can compare them - it' s like comparing FF12 with GRAW - some people just don' t like RPG' s.

Animal Crossing is an amazing game - I still haven' t bought it for DS (I' m waiting for LITE now) but I will for sure.

It' s different and different is good.

I think Tales of symphonia on the GC was awesome,however many on this forum hate that title apparently. >_< for me a 93/100.

I liked it but not as much - and I' ve heard that Baten Kaitos is much better - I need to try it.

But GC hardly delivered anything for someone who wanted a bit of violence...

RE series , Eternal Darkness , Killer 7 - and more , so yes not a lot of games like that , but just as much as other genres.

I have intrest in the rumored Game Boy Evolution but other then that Nintendo isn' t even in the same playing field as the other two.

this has got to be the single most stupid think I' ve seen in this thread.
You are so full of shit - they couldn' t best themselves since Mario 64? Have you heard of TLoZ Ocarina of Time , Goldeneye ...shit I' m not even going to name all those titles...

You have no idea what you' re talking about.

So apparently, it would seem, you are wrong. Deal with it.

Exactly.

Bishonen - you do realise how stupid you sound, right?

Lets just be honest,Shigeru is not as good as Sakaguchi.
k?
Good----

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I like Paper Mario!

Lets just be honest,Shigeru is not as good as Sakaguchi.
k?
Good----

You' re right about one thing, they can' t be compared since Shigeru is a legend

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Jeez, ...this is getting stupid!

Look, Bishoned is only about 14 years old, so even though his views on Nintendo aren' t the same as mine i suggest cutting him some slack!

Everybody has different tastes and everybody has a varying opinion. From what i can gather, pushing aside his niave comments about Nintendo, is that he is simply curious as to why, ..if Nintendo get so much vocal support from more mature gamers, they don' t sell as many units as the competition, and why do some still regard them as the company who make games for the younger generation.

Y' know, i' ll quote myself...

...it' s a game! It doesn' t have to be complex and it doesn' t have to have depth. It just has to be fun!!

...it' s a bloody game. The idea is that it' s fun! Not everybody wants to play through what are essentially interactive movies. Shit, in my local arcade, some of the pinball machines are as popular as games like House of the Dead 4!!!

they can' t be compared since Shigeru is a legend

AMEN!!!

FF serie,chrono trigger,parasite eve,vagrant story and xenogears,and what has shigeru worked on?
Mario and zelda? and?
Owned!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

chrono trigger,parasite eve,vagrant story and xenogears

Neither of which are as recognizable as:

Mario and zelda?

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Okay so mayby he did work on Metal gear solid twin snake...and...well some more games,like nintendo dogs etc,but


SAKAGUCHI > ALL!!!!

This might be a rumour but i heard kikizo had to lick his boots before he decied to show his face,is it true? :P

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Quez, Shigeru is a gaming icon. You can' t compare him to Sakaguchi, ...they' re in completely different leagues. The guy is a legend!

He created the following series'

-Donkey Kong
-Mario
-Legend of Zelda
-Nintendogs
-Pikmin
-F-Zero
-Star Fox
-Super Smash Bros

...and had a hand in...

Eternal Darkness: Sanity' s Requiem
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Doshin the Giant
Luigi' s Mansion
1080° Snowboarding
Wave Race 64

...among others

How could i forget lylat wars,it was awesome,metroid prime,., i never really liked.
And donkey kong 64 was made by rare...
For me Sakaguchi>shigeru by far.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I didn' t say he developed the game, i said he created the series. Donkey Kong was created by Miyamoto.

But, again, it' s all about preference so it matters not. It still isn' t right to compare them though...

No you didn' t and i know ofc he created donkey kong too,thats why he miss spellend " monkey" and wrote " donkey" which " RARE" that is rnglish never would have done,but i just said that kong 64 was made by rare,and is the only kong game i like.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Donkey Kong 64 was great, just like all of Rares other games on N64. It' s a damn shame Nintendo let them go but since i LOVE Kameo i' m not too bothered.

I will say that after this Pinata game they need to make either another Banjoe, Conker or Killer Instinct game, preferably all three, because the last thing i want to see is another bloody Perfect Dark!!!

PDZ is terrible (in my opinion) and games like Ghost Recon walk all over it visually (it being PDZ' s visuals that most are so impressed by).

I miss the old Rare, ...and i want my new bloody Banjoe game dammit!!!

Seeing how Kameo and pdz was first gc games that later came to xbox when MS bought rare,and later rushed to 360,we cannot judge rare by these,we need to judge them from all future titles ahead,like pinata for ex,and whatever they make in the future.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Bishonen is just showing us all how COOL he is!!!

...yo dudes.. ...get rude!...

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This thread is stupid.

It was started by a boy who wears bras but calls video gamers " dickless" for playing Nintendo games!!

Who the FUCK cares what he thinks!?

It was started by a boy who wears bras

....not quite...

...but this thread would of been good if people weren' t this easily threatened...

...sorry if i hurt all your feelings...

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...

I don' t know why i bother...

...hey, i was being serious!.....

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Majik was not treating sakaguchi as a legend,i change side,and support bishonen in whatever he says,people who dont treat sakaguchi as a legend that own shigeru must DIE!!!!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

LAME!

Now quez, your joking, right?

I don' t think one person could possibly own all... there are too many good people out there, I used to like Yuji Naka, but given the recent levels of crap he and his team are putting out in the form on sonic etc... i am not so sure these days. (he is too busy sitting behind his desk counting money)

However mario is more " famous" than final fantasy, as for the others, good games but not as widely recognised. Everyone knows zelda, and mario (but given mario whoring... how could they not? )

NiGHTS into Dreamcast

Hironobu Sakaguchi...

NOT A LEGEND!!!



He was also responsible for the Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, which is criminal. His games have sold 60 million units worldwide.



The REAL legend...



Miyamoto on the otherhand, makes that looks pathetic. More than 40 million units of the original Super Mario Bros alone have shipped since it' s release in 1985.

More than 211 million games in the Super Mario series ALONE have been sold so far and the guy has worked on over 80 different games.

Labeled " The Spielberg of Video Games" by Time Magazine in May 96, he' s considered by his peers to be the greatest video game designer in the world. He' s a living legend.

I don' t want to mock Sakaguchi, i love his games, but compared to Miyamoto he' s a amateur!

I agree that Shigeru = the new hotness, and Sakaguhi = old and busted. Ok, maybe not that bad. I actually enjoy A lot of the Sakaguchi games, but Shigeru simply KNOWS video games. He' s got this weird childlike ability to see what' s fun out of nothing, and then make games nobody was expecting. He' s unique in the world of games, and not many people can say that.

Be honest people,are you more intrested in sakaguchis new rpg dream projects,as the unoffical sequal to chrono trigger,and the FF dream project aka LO?
And his new action rpg cry on,and also titles that hasnt been announced yet,or shigerus new zelda/mario?
Did not shigeru lose a lot of respect after Mario sunshine? i got that game,and its great,but...its a bad mario64 clone,if you ask me...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Shigeru is the only guy that surpasses himself each time.

3 of 6 40/40 famitsu scores are his games.

He is responsible for that one game that everyone calls perfect.

Miyamoto is creating new genres that become the new hot thing (like Mario 64 type of platformer) , control schemes that are applied to many games (Zelda style ?) and unrivalled gameplay.

Every game he touches is at least special in some way.

Super Mario Sunshine had nothing on Super Mario 64, It' s a great game in it' s own right but Wind Waker was better.

To be honest Quez, as much as i want Blue Dragon, i want Twilight Princess and whatever Mario 128 turns out to be.

Shit, i' ll settle for whatever Miyamoto comes up wiith next. I don' t need to know what it is, i' ll be buying it anyway!!! Nintendogs was pure genius and although not exactly a new idea, it was exactued in a way that only Nintendo could manage. I have 2 of the 3 editions and they' re a nice distraction to the games i have on PSP.

I think Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 were BOTH perfect. I also think that the only game to come close to Super Mario 64' s platforming greatness is Super Mario 64 DS (another SUPERB game!).

Nintendo would be nothing without the guy. Gamers owe him more than they seem to realise!

I always liked shigeru,but i always liked sakaguchi much more,he done so many great games,its a joke that people say kojima for ex is a bigger man,if you ask 10 people who is the best gaming creator it probably gonna be like this...

5 people saying shigeru
2 saying kojima
2 saying gabe
1 saying peter


Sakaguchi is so much much much better dev then kojima,..-

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

...people probably say kijoma now because video games have progressed so much since the nes' s heyday...

...whilst donkey Kong or Mario may of been top draw 25 years ago, now, things are completely different...

...the rise of western games development..... ...games offering more and more complex and immersive forms of interaction.... .....online gaming etc....

...gaming is no longer the property of preteens... ...in fact i read somewhere that the average age of a gamer is around 23.....

..with that in mind, i guess there is little wonder about why nintendo came so embarrassingly last in the most recent console war....

...it will be interesting to see how n' s Revolution is doing, say three years from now.... ....i think that if it and it' s controller are not a BIG success, Nintendo will pull out of home consoles altogether and focus on it' s only real recent strength, mobile gaming....

...at least they' ll have a decent amount of dignity left... ..unlike sega....

...but who knows?....

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So Miyamoto s better than Sakaguchi but Sakaguchi is better than Kojima?!

Erm...

Perhaps you don' t quite get it, but none of us have been taking this thing seriously. I mean, who are WE to defend Miyamoto?! The guys work speaks for itself...

Ha, y' know Quez, i think you' re obsession with Sakaguchi is a little unhealthy. That' s just my opinion...

Developers like Kojima, Carmack and Yamauchi are niche game directors. They specialize in one specific genre and rarely try anything new. There games are impressive because they build on their previous work, each time surpassing what has gone bafore and each time bringing soemthing new to the series.

(Note: no i am NOT saying MGS2/3 are better than MGS)

The games industry has been built on the shoulders of people like Yu Suzuki and Shigeru Miyamoto. Developers like Kojima and Sakaguchi shouldn' t be compared to true industry legends!

Nintendo will pull out of home consoles altogether and focus on it' s only real recent strength, mobile gaming....

...at least they' ll have a decent amount of dignity left... ..unlike sega..

Nintendo' s strength is in Handheld gaming.
Sega' s strength is still in Arcade gaming.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

...hey, i have MUCH more respect for Sega than nintendo (in fact i think it' s criminal that nintendo survives as a console maker and they don' t)

..but Arcades?...

..surely arcade gaming is doomed??....

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