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God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 18:30
Hey y' all I was just reading a post on HDtvarcade forum where someone has posted a magazine scan of news that God of War 2: Devine Retribution will be coming to PS2.
I' ll post the link and post the pics so you can see

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/viewtopic.php?t=4627





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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 20:18


drool....

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 20:47
If it gets more polished it could be a Ninja Gaiden - since GoW1 was very close.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 21:03
I never got to play God of War (not owning a PS2 and all) but i did check out screens and movies, and i really wasnt that impressed, now the gameplay may be awesome, but i felt like (when i looked at it) it was kinda Golden Axe like (which was a great game)

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 21:48


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If it gets more polished it could be a Ninja Gaiden - since GoW1 was very close.


Meh!

I love God of War and think it' s one of PS2' s best games but it could never be Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden is seriously hardcore in every way. What Sony should have done is saved God of War 2 for PS3 and released it at launch!

This is a BIG mistake, ...unless they are already going to port it to PS3, which is unlikely...

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 13, 2006 22:16
...yeah, totally dumb to develop a possible killer app for a soon to be superseded machine....

...utter Homer style doltishness...

...D' oh!!!...
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 00:52
Dumb?

It' s got a 100 mln user base.Add to his that PS3 is truly (not like 360 - what a fuckin lie) backwards compatible (that is if they won' t change it soon).

You have everything ready - the game engine , enviroment - it' s pure cash for them.

VX - you have no idea how much this game rox and you probably never will - a shame especially since you are the kind of guy that could be blown away by it (and many others on PS2)
Graphics are amazing - but there are places less pretty and more pretty.

Ninja Gaiden wasn' t that hardcore - I mean is it really that hard? hell no , but If you' re not blocking and keep buttonmashing as much as possible - you die :)

I find them both very alike.


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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 00:57
I agree that blocking was key in Ninja Gaiden. That' s what I didn' t like about it. I wanted to spend more time playing the game instead of defending myself from it. Plus the music wasn' t that great. The music in God of War got pretty old as well.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 01:30
.... you still haven' t got off the first stage, have you?

.....because the music is that great....

...you' ll need to finish it to unlock the music playback in the options screen though... ...very few modern games come anywhere close to Ninja Gaiden' s soundtrack...


...Also: i don' t know about Gears Of War, but mindless button mashing won' t get you pass the first boss in NG....
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 02:10
The soundtrack for Ninja Gaiden was " appropriate" at best. Mostly Japanese flair and it is not known as a phenomenal soundtrack by anybody except Ninja Gaiden fanboys. It' s got nothing on the likes of Gradius, Socket, Phantasy Star 4, F-Zero GX, or even Otogi.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 02:45
Ninja Gaiden was pretty good game, I preferred God of War overall though. I wasn;t blown away by NG, i thought the xbox could do better (no character reflections in water? something Team Ninja doesn' t seem to like i believe DoA4 is the same, right?)

I can' t say I remember the music from NG at all... a little of GoW, and it fit the games mood well.

I would have thought they' d have waited for a near launch title or within first year of ps3 launch. Another killer app would have done sony good, given M$ headstart.

Still I have faith they will make another great game, and i' m gonna get it either way... well unless they do screw up.
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 03:07
You are right, Team Ninja is allergic to character reflections. I think they just don' t know HOW to do them. They really hate them.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 21:21

not known as a phenomenal soundtrack by anybody except Ninja Gaiden fanboys.


...f*ck....

...i' ve been rumbled....
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 21:32
I cant remember liking a single sound track for a game, i play the game. Only thing i remember is Ultra bust a move had the most annoying sounds on Xbox. I dont listen much to the music in games. It just has to not be annoying and all is good

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 22:28
Ninja Gaidens soundtrack served it' s purpose but God of Wars was nothing special either. God od War was a cool game and mixed up a lot of different gameplays styles very successfully, but it still wasn' t as good as Ninja Gaiden.

As for PS3 being truly backwards compatible, ...that' s not 100% confirmed. At the moment they' re looking at whether they could do a download service akin to Revolutions Virtual Console, but Sony have previously said that it' s unlikely it' ll be completely backwards compatible, although that' s what they' re aiming for. No matter what though, it' ll still have to emulate the games because the technology and grapics chip are complately different!

Team Ninja just doesn' t like water physics. Most developers don' t like it because it' s hard to get right. Far Cry Predator' s water physics look nice but i still don' t think they' re good enough...

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 14, 2006 23:11
...geez.. what' s up with you ancient gamers?....

...Ninja Gaiden' s Soundtrack is FREAKIN' AWESOME dammit!!.....

....i demand that you all get up RIGHT NOW, fire it up and cycle through all the tunes in the sound test then come back and post your opinions.....

..those Heavy Rock and post-Industrial Trance tracks are lightyears ahead of most MODERN game soundtracks....

...i' d even go as far as saying that without such a strong showing in the sound department, i' d expect at least a full mark taken off it' s average review score...
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 00:18
*Loads and checks out the soundtrack in Ninja Gaiden Black*

Ok, you' re right, the soundtrack rocks, but Quake 2 had a better soundtrack than Ninja Gaiden...

*Re-plays some of Ninja Gaiden Black*

God of War could NEVER be this good!!! If Sony want to make God of War 2 their own Ninja Gaiden, they have a LOT of work to do...

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 00:33
i' m surprise majikdragon that you prefer ninja gaiden to god of war, i played both and no way ninja gaiden could be better

from the story, to graphics (Art design please) to ideas and atmosphere to Music to gameplay itself, i don' t see where ninja gaiden is better, i' m not saying ninja gaiden is bad , it' s a good game but that' s it ....

in fact, god of war was much more respected than ninja gaiden by critics and i guess by people too, but i guess the lates don' t count since there are much more ps2 owners than xbox... but yeah , LONG LIFE GOD OF WAR 2.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 01:56
Ninja Gaiden Black is uber...

It' s a huge game. I mean, you get a re-packaged Ninja Gaiden, the 2 Xbox Live Hurricane mission packs, more costumes, missions and modes. Harder difficulties for those that love to die, ....A LOT.

The mission mode is just perfection!

It' s one of the nicest looking games on Xbox and still looks good against 360 titles. It' s a classic!

God of War was a cool game and the cutscenes were awesome but even the art direction wasn' t up to Ninja Gaidens standards...

Maybe i just prefer the unique experience Ninja Gaiden offers. I guess that because parts of God of War feel like Prince of Persia and Spartan: Total Warrior it doesn' t have the same impact on me that Ninja Gaiden does.

You can' t compare them visually because as nice as God of Wars looks, it' s still a PS2 game and can' t possibly live up to one of the best looking Xbox games there is.

The gameplay in God of War is more accessible and i can see that it would be popular amongst younger gamers who might be put off by Ninja Gaidens difficulty. Anyone who says Ninja Gaiden isn' t all that hard on the highest difficulty is a liar.

I love God of War but if i had to choose one it' d be Ninja Gaiden. But comparing them is like comparing SOCOM 3 to Ghost Recon 2/Summit Strike. It' s silly!

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 01:58
I never played " God of war" so i cant speak in a comparsion,however Ninja gaiden to me was a 94/100,it was a awesome action game,cant wait for the 2nd,and why did i like ninja gaiden?
The control was great,graphic awesome,and it forced you to play as a ninja,wasn' t easy at all,it forced the player to react and counter re-react to the A.I instead of button smashing.
The bosses and enemies was awesome.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 02:39
Well, I wasn' t as blown away as people seem to be with NG.

The graphics weren' t as good as I hoped (i remember being disappointed when i started playing it [fanboys, please, don' t read as crap] )
- A ninja in a shiny PVC outfit? super stealthy.

I much prefer the Onimusha Games to Ninja Gaiden. I preferred the earlier parts of NG where you are killing humans not demons. (A reason i didn' t mind much enjoyment in the hurricane pack)

I don' t really remember the sound track.

As for God of War, well... On first play through it' s great, technically i was so impressed (remember different hardware/different opinion however at least it manages reflections ((inc character)) on a lot of surfaces)
Combat system was nice, and the anytime block was good, but the animation for it made it rough. The double jump looked crap.
The gameplay was pretty good, though some of the platforming bits (eg, hades) sucked balls.
Both games were pretty great in all... Still prefer the Onimusha series though...
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 07:05
...Ninja Gaiden Black is the reason why i don' t own God of War, and haven' t given Onimusha:DOD the time of day.....

....why bother with seung mena when you can have Ivy?....
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 07:17
I never played NG but both gof war and it are both very good games. I just cannot say without playing NG.

But the real ' Tough Game' of this generation was DMC3! come on! how can you guys not even mention that? its like real old school hard as nails. The new version is easyier tough. But i finshed it, on hard.

Anyway, back on topic..
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 08:24
DMC3 wasn' t THAT hard, ...It WAS tricky but Ninja Gaiden is on a completely different level.

I love hard games because i always feel like i' ve achieved something when i complete a level, but DMC3 didn' t give me that satisfaction. It' s much better than DMC2 which was dreadful but i still prefer the original.

Ninja Gaiden is harder than DMC3.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 08:25
I bet thats just the fanboy in you talking
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 08:48
Ugh, i detest that term! It' s so fucking juvenile, ...it makes people sound like children. I couldn' t care less about the consoles or the companies, ...i just love games!

I' m serious though, ...you need to ACTUALLY become a Ninja to complete the game on it' s hardest difficulty.

I know people who can' t even get past the first boss. Ther are NO weak enemies in Ninja Gaiden whatsoever!

This game is badass!




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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 09:07
heh i really liked the way they made you wear a pink band around your arm for the rest of the game if you picked easy, well i heard. I love that.
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 23:09

....why bother with seung mena when you can have Ivy?..


...cause she' s younger and much more sexy?

God of War Vs Ninja Gaiden

Story
That' s where NG sucks actually - it starts in amazing moody ninja and samurai enviroments with amazing sound effects and quickly becomes some high-tech-future crap.

GoW starts great and it gets better all the time - locations you visit are simply amazing and it has a very satisfying ending.Quality Product when it comes to Story.

GoW wins

Graphics
Ninja Gaiden looks amazing , but it' s not the prettiest Xbox game ever made.
The Camera system is terribly flawed (yes even in Black) and takes some time getting used to.Characters animation is top notch.However most places you visit are just boring and kind of standard gaming enviroments.Levels seem kind of disconnected.Some even look bad.

God of War is definitely the best looking PS2 game.It has amazing levels nicely connected with smooth transitions between them.The art direction is the key here since it' s PS2 and it can' t be as sharp and clean as NG.The very ideas for different places make this game amazing.Characters animation is crap/silly at times and most of the time just mediocre.Enemies are very low-poly.

GoW=NG

Gameplay
God of War is a great game with 9,5/10 gameplay that sometimes drops to 9.0 - it' s just fantastic.

Ninja Gaiden - Gameplay in this game is 10/10 - it' s fuckin perfect.When you die - you know it' s your fuckin fault.

NG is the undisputed winner here with incredibly deep and polished gameplay that brings tons of fun and replay value.

Audio
GoW has fantastic voice acting , great sound effects and great music.

NG however kicks ass (I still remember those sounds at the very beginning ...so ...so ninja :) ) much more

NG wins (but it' s close)

Overall

Both should be played by gamers who don' t like to miss AAA titles - who cares which one is better ? don' t you like having 2 amazing games instead of one?
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 15, 2006 23:16

When you die - you know it' s your fuckin fault.


And you die a lot on Master Ninja!

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 16, 2006 03:54
...yeah i' m sure GOW is a very good tile...

...but i' m not the kind of gamer who plays every very good title released..

...i just don' t have the time or the cash to do so.. ..i tend to focus only on the creme de la creme (hence why i was so pi$$ed with the ex-box' s overall performance - far too few earth shattering releases)...

...i guess it just comes down to personal preference in the end... ..for me (and most people i think), Ninja Gaiden Black is one of those experiences that you just cannot miss...
...whilst i respect GOW, i don' t think it truly has the Premier quality that black has...


...you can' t be serious about taking Sueng Mena over Ivy, can you?...
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 16, 2006 04:03
Just curious, all you that say black is better than GoW, same goes for NG (original) lets face it GoW didn' t get an update, so isn' t it better to compare the original?

If i could be bothered to dust off my xbox collection id try the music on NG as a lot fo you think NG music is badd ass, and i cannnot remember the teeniest bit of it.

I guess that' s something to do once onimusha 4 is finished... I love just messing around and levelling
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 16, 2006 04:23
The Onimusha games suck!

Dawn of Dreams is cool-ish, but it' s too little too late. The team should have taken note of what their sister team did with RE4 and really put some effort into making it better.

It' s not a bad game by far but is sucks major ass when compared to Ninja Gaiden. Ha, anyone who doesn' t love Ninja Gaiden, doesn' t own it or can' t get off the first level because they suck!

Ninja Gaiden was amazing but Ninja Gaiden Black is a work of art. There is so similar experience that can compare!

Y' know, someone mentioned DMC3, ...well Ikatagi-san met the DMC3 director while DMC3 was still in production. It' s discussed in an interview Ikatagi-san had with 1up and it' d hillarious.


I met the DMC3 director at E3 last year. While I was out drinking at some bar, this Japanese guy comes wading through the crowd up to me, and he says, " You' re Itagaki-san, aren' t you?" Pretty outgoing for a Japanese guy, wouldn' t you say? Anyway, so I say, " Yes, I am. Who the hell are you?" Yeah, there were two of them there then. I remember. I have a great memory [laughs].

So, he says, " I am the director of Devil May Cry 3; pleased to meet you!" and I said, " Pleased about what, dumbass!" I was drunk at the time, after all. He was young, so I slapped him on the back and said, " You just work hard so that one day people will say ' Team NINJA in the East [Tokyo], Capcom in the West [Osaka]' ." The product of his labor after that little pep talk was DMC3. It got decent reviews here in Japan, and I think he did pretty well for a young guy. If he' s lucky, he might make something even better next time.



It' s available here...

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3140456

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 16, 2006 04:36
...yeah i read that...

...Itagaki-san is by far the coolest person in videogames... ..without doubt..

...he proves that you don' t have to be a total dork to like or make videogames..
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 16, 2006 05:09

...you can' t be serious about taking Sueng Mena over Ivy, can you?...


Anytime baby (but only Soul Calibur 3 version) :)

(Actually I' d rather take Taki)

GoW has that premium quality - it' s only a bit different.

Itagaki ...I hate this fool - he makes 2 great titles (DOA and NG) - both far from perfect , yet he acts like he' s the new Miyamoto an Suzuki combined.

He even said that DoA has more depth than Virtua Fighter ...he' s just a retard
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 05:17

He even said that DoA has more depth than Virtua Fighter

...really?.... do you have a link?...

...i can' t believe that unless i read it for myself....
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 05:22

...Itagaki-san is by far the coolest person in videogames... ..without doubt..


DIE!!!!
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 05:25
SAKAGUCHI > ALL!!!!
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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 08:19

SAKAGUCHI > ALL!!!!

Wow :P
i totally agree!!
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 08:38


He looks kinda like a paedophile...

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RE: God of War 2 - Mar 19, 2006 08:56
You seen him now?
Longer hair ffs.



Btw kikizo even had a video interview with him from like november,and they talked about blue dragon and lost odyssey.
However they asked nothing about Nobuo,and i got very dissapointed,but a video interview with the legend is enough to please me and kikizo own!!!
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Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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