Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection coming to PSP!!!

Stolen from the Gamefaqs PSP board:

http://outerspace.terra.com.br/interno.php?area=not_est&cod_noticia=4685

Source, for those who can read portuguese. Translation Follows.

" NAMCO CONFIRMS TEKKEN DARK RESSURECTION FOR PSP

After leaving a small teaser on famitsu revealing the development of a new tekken game for PSP, namco has confirmed offcially, through the new edition of the magazine, that the game in really on its way to the portable.

It´s name will be Tekken Dark Ressurection which shows that the game will be very similar to the last arcade installment, Tekken 5 Dark Ressurection. Until this moment, there is the confirmation of 30 fighters, between them Armor King, and many playing modes, such as time attack, practice, mini-games and multiplayer

Dark Resurrection for PSP will be realeased in the beginning of 2006

PICS for TEKKEN 5:DR on PSP

http://sylphys.ddo.jp/upld2nd/game2/src/1140014273599.jpg

Additional Famitsu screens:
http://ruliweb.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=10051&table=game_psp&main=psp


Additional bits of thievery:

Release - summer 2006
Price - unknown

It' s based on arcade version of Tekken 5:DR

Producer: Nakatani Hajime

- Confirmed mode: Timeattack, Practice, Mini game
- 35 characters
- New arcade opening included
- Network versus battle(online)
- More custom items added

Come on Namco, give us the full scoop soon!


Both the Tekken and Virtua Fighter PSP rumors emerged at the same time and now Tekken has finally been confirmed. Could it be that a PSP Virtua Fighter is next? Please say it IS so!!!!

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

^5 Terry!

the funny thing is that the confirmed official name is Tekken : Dark Ressurection (without 5 in it) - I wonder if that means anything

Anyway it looks fantastic - But I wanted to see Soul Calibur , the DC version ported :)

...wouldn' t it be far better to release Dark Resurrection on PS3?...

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The engine for both SC3 and T5 is optimised for PS2 - that means that PSP should be able to run a scaled down version of it after some changes are made.

I think it takes a lot of time/work/money to make anything for Cell - especially now at the begining.

ORIGINAL: Bishonen

...wouldn' t it be far better to release Dark Resurrection on PS3?...

...wouldn' t it be far better to release Tekken 6 on PS3?...

....i dunno.. ..is a sixth sequel such a big deal?...

...Resurrection seems more interesting...

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http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060217/dr.htm

Fear teh powah of teh Pee Ess Pee!!1!!

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

lookin good eh? :)

Anyone wants to say something about PSP being as " powerful" as PS2?

Thought so :)

Gangsta, that' s a stupid comment considering you know the PSPs' CPU is capped at the moment!

...hey, are Dragnov and Lili the only new characters in resurrection?...

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Anyone wants to say something about PSP being as " powerful" as PS2?

Oh I' ll reiterate it again!

On paper AND as Sony stated themselves, the PSP is in some ways more powerful and other ways comparable to the PS2.

Sony said it, they made both products, and not many are in the position to question it

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Tekken looks very downgraded which is only to be expected. It' s still probably the best looking PSP game so far by looking at the screens.

Nobody can expect it to look as good as the PS2 game as the PSP can only draw half as many polygons a second.

THE PSPs' CPU is CAPPED!!!!!

For now at least. The position Sony was in when it launched PSP was complex, in that they couldn' t really risk launching a handheld that outperformed their still selling well home console because. They capped the PSPs' CPU to 222mhz which results in the unit performing " worse" than the PS2.

The ' actual' clock rate is 333mhz and it wil be uncapped at some point (with a firmware update included on the GT4 UMD no doubt) which will give the unit a huge processing boost.

Anyone who' s been messing about with emulator on their PSP will already know that the processor can be ramped up to 333mhz, but that it drains the battery much quicker.

When bigger (better/longer lasting) batteries are made available, and when PS3 is almost out (because it then makes PS2 fairly redundant) Sony will uncap the PSP and the games will be at the very least on a par with PS2 titles.

Like Terry said, on paper, the PSP outperforms PS2. But on paper the PSP' s CPU is shown as 333mhz and not the 222mhz it' s currently running at!

Some hobbyist game developer who supposedly has ' some' *connections*/inside info once made the claim that it' s the PSP development kits that are limited to 222 mhz at this point and that the cap will be lifted through the dev kits. I don' t know how accurate her info is or whether it will indeed be uncapped through a firmware update or a combination of both, All I know is that Sony needs to hurry up and provide developers with FULL access to the PSP' s power. I don' t care if it lowers the battery life to 40 minutes, I wanna see developers start taking advantage of the unit' s power and show us what it' s really capable of without the thought of battery life even popping into their heads! (everyone gives Terry a dirty look and scream at him to shut up!)

I know Sony wants developers to become more efficient coders by programming within their self-imposed constraints but come on Sony, what' s another 111 mhz gonna hurt huh? ;). It' ll probably make for significantly better PS2 to PSP ports.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

The ports would be a world better, but since the battery came under fire before launch and running at 333mhz drains it so fast, i can see why they haven' t uncapped it.

It' s definately capped though and it was Sony who announced it during GDC last year. They said it was done to lengthen the batterys' life.

Overheating concerns have also been cited as a possible reason for the cap. Some early adopters reported the unit' s overheating and crashing as a result. The cap was put into place shortly afterwards.

Ken Kutaragi, compared the system to the Walkman, in that battery life will be improved with each product revision, and has outlined some steps (switching to a different fabrication process, for example) which will be used to improve the system' s endurance. Currently the PSP' s CPU is fabricated using a 90-nm process, but eventually Sony will shift to 65-nm and 45-nm when the technology becomes available.

I hope that clears it up. When the PSP is uncapped, developers will be able to get more out of the machine, ...and at that time they will have the added advantage of having had more time to get used to the hardware and will have developed the techniques required to really push the machine to render graphics akin to PS2.

That may be so, but the PSP will never match any of the high level PS2 titles like Soul Calibur 3, VF4 Evo and MGS3, as the machines polygon performance is much less.

Sony themselves announced that the PSP draws a theoretical maximum of 33 million polygons per sec, and the PS2 66 million. In reality the number for PS2 hovers around the 9 - 10 million mark in game at high level with complex effects, and the PSP would be roughtly 5 - 6 million.

Obviously a greater use of effects could hide the lower poly count, much like Resident Evil 4 on GCN and PS2. Getting to a similar level to the upper end of mid range PS2 visuals will be possible, but as for looking the same as the high end stuff... No Chance.

Gangsta, that' s a stupid comment considering you know the PSPs' CPU is capped at the moment!

Oh please :)

So what? I don' t think a bit (yes it' s not that much) of a clock speed boost can suddenly change everything ,do you ?

Sony says that PSP is like PS2 and they speak the truth cause they made both...Now I don' t think you realise what you' re saying :)

Killzone Demo realtime? they sure said it , and it' s them who made it ( I mean paid for the CG)

Thank god there are people like KYO.K here :)

A third isn' t exactly " a bit" !

Ignore what Sony say then and go look at the benchmark peformances that show the specs to be better than PS2.

I deal with this shit day in and day out with my course, and Terry' s living is games based. YOU are going to tell US that YOU know more about the subject than US?

Oh please :)

The numbers of real-time in game polygon performance were quoted directly by developers not Sony. And the PSP' s polygon performance is widely known through the development community as being noticeably weaker than PS2 level.

I wasn' t comparing the level of effects between the two as in that respect the PSP is more capable. Devs have spoken out about these things in interviews you know, it' s not exactly stuff anyone but Sony' s trying to hide.

benchmark peformances that show the specs to be better than PS2

In some respects yes, but the poly count is still lower than the PS2' s in game, with effects running, physics and AI all at once.

My comment wasn' t directed at you dude. I agree with what you' re saying, but it has less to do with polycount than people care to realise.

PSP has a much smaller screen, therefore making massive polycounts redundant. It' s much easier to half half the poly' s displaying on the PSPs' screen with more effects to achieve the same results.

Will we ever see a game like MGS3 in terms of visual quality on PSP? Unlikely, but you' ll definately see games on PSP that visually improve on PS2 games.

Bear in mind that the PSP isn' t hasn' t exactly been around the block yet. People here are comparing Dark Ressurection to Tekken 5, when they should be comparing it to Tekken Tag Tournament instead!



Now tell me Dark Ressurection on PSP doesn' t look as good as that, if not better.

PSP has a much smaller screen, therefore making massive polycounts redundant. It' s much easier to half half the poly' s displaying on the PSPs' screen with more effects to achieve the same results.

Agreed.

I definitely think it looks better than TTT. And the rough edges in the direct-feed screens will be erased once it' s running natively on the PSP' s screen. Admittedly I expected the PSP to be able to produce a perfect conversion of TTT in time given that the game' s not pushing many more polys than a DC.

I personally can' t wait for Dark Ressurection, though it now seems like a PS3 port is unlikely, if not a flat out no.

A PS3 port is still viable. Namco will be looking at Dark Ressurections success in the arcade and on PSP. It would be much easier for them to port and update DR for PS3 than to do Tekken 6 as a launch title.

Tekken Tag was afterall just a pimped up Tekken 3!

I expect the PSP version to look close to Tekken 4 in the looks depatment. Tekken 5 was a huge leap for the series in every aspect, especially the visuals. Asking that kind of quality from Namco so early in the units life is a bit cheeky. I wouldn' t dream of comparing a 1st/2nd generation PSP title to a 5th/6th generation PS2 title. People are thinking about it the wrong way ;P

Suffice to say it' s going to be a superb portable game, and that' s what matters.

...hey, are Dragnov and Lili the only new characters in resurrection?...

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As Terry said...

Fear teh powah of teh Pee Ess Pee!!1!!

These are the PSP version and it looks loads better than TTT (a PS2 game no less) and as good (with superior partical effects) as Tekken 4 (another PS2 game...). Bear in mind that it' ll look even nicer in motion and once it' s been fully optimized and you can' t say PSP can' t look as nice as PS2, because it obviously can!

In 2 years and another Tekken on it' ll look even nicer, close to Tekken 5 even. No need for huge polycounts because the screen is much smaller and the unit can produce better particle effects and such.

Just be happy that your PSP CAN output comparable visuals and don' t question the technological trickery involved!























Screens were found here: http://media.psp.ign.com/media/804/804380/imgs_1.aspx

I' m going to bed. Night all! ;P

fucking sweet, I knew there was a reason to buy a psp.

Sony says that PSP is like PS2 and they speak the truth cause they made both...Now I don' t think you realise what you' re saying :)

It' s like I told the good people at the Gamefaqs PSP board, I' ll believe Sony about their own hardware platforms before I believe any of them ANY day of the week

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Even though the PSP is much about graphics I have to say that many of the PSP games have lots of gameplay as well. Just because Sony says it can deliver amazing graphics doesn' t mean that that' s the only thing it can do.
I think Sonys focus on graphics was a bad move since they were previously known for having great games on their consoles. But know when they' ve hyped the PSP and PS3 as super powerful everyone has forgotten what made the PS2 so good compared to the Xbox in the first place.

Thankfully I didn' t, and the PS2 thankfully holds up very well with it' s best games (Soul Calibur 3, VF4 Evo, DMC3 etc). My Xbox gets next to no use at all these days, not that it did except for DOA3, various Sega stuff, Halo (the first one) recently OutRun 2, and no doubt I' ll waste countless hours on 2006 as well.

PS3 will end up being a case of having the best visuals and most likely the best games, unless Microsoft somehow convince more vintage Japanese developers to make exclusive games for the format. I can imagine that when multiformat games arrive on both PS3 and 360, people will perhaps buy the PS3 version for the more polished visuals.

At least they' ll probably have the bulk of great games on offer too.

I can imagine that when multiformat games arrive on both PS3 and 360, people will perhaps buy the PS3 version for the more polished visuals.

You mean if they have both consoles?

I hate how everybody still assumes that PS3 will have better visuals. Not only will multi-platform games be closer in quality than you think, but PS3 might not look quite as good as expect. At least not for the 1st generation or two of games.

The way the technology works, and the reports that are coming from developers that have got the final PS3 dev-kits is that 360 has a slight graphical edge because it has a more advanced GPU, but PS3 can do more calculations and will likely be able to have more things on screen at any given time because Cell is astoundingly fast.

But that doesn' t make it look nicer. Look at the Dynasty Warriors games on PS2 for an example of what i mean!

If developing for the PS3 is as complex -- if not alot more -- than the PS2 then I think it' ll be a long time before you see a lot of games that really take advantage of the hardware and only from some of the more top-tier development studios out there.




(Someone in the background shouts: " OH that was quite profound Mr. Obvious.. Next I suppose you' re going to tell us that games get better with time." )

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Like you guys say it' s down to deveopment and whether or not devs can use the hardware to it' s potential. We' re not going to find out how good both machines really are untill someone like Capcom releases Resi Evil 5. Though at the same time people at Sega like Suzuki-san and at Capcom seem to believe at the moment that the PS3 has the edge.

I assume not only because of these comments but also that the CELL can also be used to graphic calculations to back up the GPU, obviously physics will take a hit, but to what extent would depend on how good you are at coding efficient routines. Maybe the reason also is that I' ve yet to be impressed by any 360 games that have been shown including the apparently amazing Gears Of War (over shiney, jerky mess at the mo). Capcoms Lost Planet is the first thing I' ve seen that vaguely shows what 360 can do, and that' s a year away.

It all comes down to the games, and from what I can tell so far 360 hasn' t really got anywhere near as much support as it should have. Again, too early to tell properly, but unless Microsoft get some serious Jap support for popular franchises then I can' t see it being as good as PS3.

The biggest mistake is that Microsoft rushed the 360 out, so devs haven' t had time to really make any outstanding games for it, which is why were going to have to wait until next year, and even then many companies in Japan are going to sit back and see how well it does before commiting fully.

If developing for the PS3 is as complex -- if not alot more -- than the PS2 then I think it' ll be a long time before you see a lot of games that really take advantage of the hardware and only from some of the more top-tier development studios out there.

My sentiments exactly!

It' ll be at least 2 years after release that the console will really begine to shine. At the moment (and this applies to 360 too) developers are struggling to find the best ways to approach the hardware. Microsoft has the added advantage of being abale to offer developers their own comprehensive development environment and specialized tool kits, which makes development for the 360 so much easier.

PS3 will look good, even at launch, but i don' t seriously expect PS3 launch titles to look as polished as the 360 titles that are launching at around the same time.

The more i think about it, the more excited i get about games that are coming to 360. That ofcourse could be due to the fact that i already own it though, ...but Too Human and Halo 3?! Ninja Gaiden 2?! (it' ll definately release on 360 and Code Chronus will most likely make PS3), ...whatever Rare does next?!!!

Anyhoo, ..can we please not have anymore arguing about PSP vs PS2. I think we' ve shown that the PSP is capable of producing PS2 quality visuals, even without having to render as many polys' .

and the reports that are coming from developers that have got the final PS3 dev-kits is that 360 has a slight graphical edge because it has a more advanced GPU, but PS3 can do more calculations and will likely be able to have more things on screen at any given time because Cell is astoundingly fast.

There are reports on PS3 being stronger too - it depends on the source really.

Yeah, pretty much, and the PS3 DOES have a processor advantage, but 360 has a GPU advantage.

It' s not really worth worrying about!

I have one and i' m getting the other. What i' m REALLY interested in is Revolution!

I' ll just buy all the consoles, just like I' ve done since the days of the Megadrive and SNES.

Revolution: Potentially the most exciting one of them all. Can' t wait to see what Ninty has in store for us, especially with Metroid Prime 3 and Mario 128.

There has been some changes on this forum - there are much more gamers excited about the revolution than haters - it wasn' t always so :)

Really? I expected this to be THE place where Revolution had support. Well assuming the same hardcore gamers that grew up reading SSM and then SegaWeb were still here.

It' s good to be open minded about new things.

REVOLUTION is going to be better than sex (and i have a GREAT sex life)

I' ve always said so!