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Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 02:33
I didnt count on this one at all...

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/2006/0206-halo2vista.htm

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 02:34
" PCs exclusively for Windows Vista. " Halo 2" for Windows Vista will be developed by a dedicated Microsoft Game Studios team in partnership with Bungie Studios.

Only for Windows Vista, " Halo 2" will offer gamers both the single-player campaign and multiplayer experience of the original, as well as the additional maps offered in the " Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack." Gamers will also have the exciting opportunity to build, create and customize their own multiplayer levels."



HAHAHAHHA

MS THINK...They can sell VISTA by make it the only option to buy halo2 for pc...omfg.
Piece of scumbags,the game barley sold6 millions,and is considered a joke by pc players,good luck selling it,with also VISTA Req...
omg

You know what sux though?
MS has taken over bungie,and now they made sure people with linux cant play,and people with xp has to bvuy ms new produc vista,to play it,MS not a greedy plauge who show their trueself?!
OKAY?!!!
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 04:27
Ehhhh Quez, whether you like Windows Vista or not, you will have it on your pc sooner or later, thats a fact. I dont think most PC gamers consider Halo 2 a joke, where on earth did you get that idea from? They like Halo:CE, so they will like Halo2.

Halo2 has better multiplayer, and to some degree better single player than CE

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 05:17
Ignore him VX he' s just daft in the head!

Halo 2 will be big on PC regardless and like you said, most PC owners will end up using Vista anyway (it does look nice!). I think they should put some real effort into updating the graphics engine and multi-player content in the game though, just to make it an essential purchase.

Microsoft know good business and this is just another example of how it works. I' m a big fan of Halo 2' s multi-player (the solo experience didn' t match up to CE but wasn' t as bad as people make out) and it' d be nice to have an updated version (kinda like what Valve did with CS:S) on PC.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:22
I know people who use win2k even today,and no i wont change winxp to vista any time near.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:28
Ok, but do you even know what Vista can do?

XP' s been pretty lame really, as it comes. You have to spend an awful lot of time modifying it with all sorts of utilities and stuff until it shows it' s real potential.

Vista looks really impressive to say the least.

Many businesses still use 2000, simply because it' s more stable. 2000' s cool and most stuff that XP supports is supported by 2000 as well. Home users have pretty much moved over though, i mean XP' s getting on now and people have either had to format their drives and decided to put XP on instead, or bought new PC' s in the past 4 years and got XP pre-installed.

I don' t know anyone who hasn' t got XP. I used to, but then he got a new PC...

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:33
My argument is still here,freaking MS,has buyed Bungie,then what do they do?
They make sure only people can play bungies games with VISTA,so people have to change OS,and they take out linux and winxp for people,ofc they can work the game with winxp/LInux,but MS has made sure to piss people off with this lame pr trick for their vista.
Is this what MS gonna be?
jesus...
Damn these people.
Im glad they only own Bungie and rare,..
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:40
No, you just come to argue.

It' s business Quez, and good business at that. They want to make money and attack the competition, ...technically there' s nothing wrong with that.

Do you use Linux?

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:46
Anyone else think queztall is a 13 year old nubtard?
"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:49
No,i own winxp,and not win2k or linux,however i do know many who use linux,and i also know some pc guys who are really hi tech at stuff,and use win2k to pc' s that are just monsters cause they think win2k is still nr1.
I can understand that they take away win2k,but as they done now?
And also,they doesnt say,we doesnt support winxp,they say vista only,basically,it wont run on winxp,they made sure it wont run,here its not something they just doesnt made sure to support,but they really made sure only vista works.
Fuck them.

And btw i own halo2 to xbox,and dont need this game,but this pr trick,with delaying halo3 to the movie in 2007 is showing the dark side of ms that people was afraid they would turn into if they got any shares into the console market.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:50

Anyone else think queztall is a 13 year old nubtard?

Yes,i have no right to be pissed off,cause they made sure it wont work on winxp or linux,yes im sure im the only one.
Freaking xbox fanboys.
If people cant see how disgusting this move is by MS then they are clearly fanboys.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 06:54
Dude he called you a nubtard!
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 07:01

Dude he called you a nubtard!


I have no idea what that means,and btw im 19,and he can call me wtf he wants in this post,cause he is an xbox fanboy,and get offended by everything that is negative towards MS/XBOX.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 07:08
Can we not use the term ' fanboy' please, it' s childish!

You' re 19, congratulation on that...

...nubtard!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 07:44
Quez you sure have a warped view of major companies - and the way business works. Unless you' ve been hiding under a rock for the past 19 years you' ll know that big businesses are never your friend. They' re out to make money and as long as they get it, they couldn' t care about anyone. This applies to Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and every other major player out there. They are all extremely successful because of stategies like this.

Microsoft have found a way to kill two birds with one stone. From a business perspective I' d call them idiots if they didn' t exploit it. Supposedly delaying Halo 3 to coincide with the release of the movie is another smart business strategy that will make them (guess what?) MONEY.

Everyone is flaming you because your argument and conception of the way business works is flawed. It has nothing to do with fanboyism.

Besides, I' m not sure why there' s such a negative view of Vista anyway. Have you actually gotten your hands on a copy? The IT department at the architectural firm that I work at get' s the latest Vista beta' s to test regularly. After playing with them for a while, I can say that it does have a lot of potential. There are quite a few things that I don' t like in it (like the over simplification of some menus, IE7 seems a little too bloated for my liking, etc) but there' s still quite a bit of dev time left on it to implement feedback from testers. I don' t think Vista will be as big as the change from 98->XP. At the moment it feels like a much more refined version of XP but I don' t think it' ll be crappy by any means.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 08:10
Windows are now a defacto standard, which means, sooner or later you will be forced to upgrade or you will have an empty computer.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 08:13
Welcome Flaze!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 08:14
o, Hey, Thanks ^^

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 08:25
I don' t see how Halo 3 was delayed, as a release date was never announced.

As far as them making it compatible with only Vista, I don' t know. For people who want to play it on a pc, it MAY make them upgrade a little faster, but I don' t see the advantage. As a matter of fact, they are purposefully limiting their market for the game. Smart move?

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 10:02
i won' t blast windows vista, but unless you work for a company with an extensive IT dept, you probably don' t have the hardware to run it, because as of 2 months ago a good amount of the hardware didn' t exist yet, (that' s when i stopped following the vista press releases) which will make this year really interesting for pc gamers, see, that' s why i enjoy consoles so much. designed for one main purpose. fairly priced compared to gaming pc' s, and every game from first to last on that system is guaranteed to work. well, actually i retract some of that, yes pc' s will most likely always be ahead of consoles visually, and yes modifications are much easier, but everything is so much more expensive! sorry i' m just sore that i don' t have any money for pc bitz.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 11:04

Quez you sure have a warped view of major companies - and the way business works. Unless you' ve been hiding under a rock for the past 19 years you' ll know that big businesses are never your friend. They' re out to make money and as long as they get it, they couldn' t care about anyone. This applies to Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and every other major player out there. They are all extremely successful because of stategies like this.

Microsoft have found a way to kill two birds with one stone. From a business perspective I' d call them idiots if they didn' t exploit it. Supposedly delaying Halo 3 to coincide with the release of the movie is another smart business strategy that will make them (guess what?) MONEY.

Everyone is flaming you because your argument and conception of the way business works is flawed. It has nothing to do with fanboyism.

Besides, I' m not sure why there' s such a negative view of Vista anyway. Have you actually gotten your hands on a copy? The IT department at the architectural firm that I work at get' s the latest Vista beta' s to test regularly. After playing with them for a while, I can say that it does have a lot of potential. There are quite a few things that I don' t like in it (like the over simplification of some menus, IE7 seems a little too bloated for my liking, etc) but there' s still quite a bit of dev time left on it to implement feedback from testers. I don' t think Vista will be as big as the change from 98->XP. At the moment it feels like a much more refined version of XP but I don' t think it' ll be crappy by any means.


I' m not bashing on vista,im bashing on the idea that they made sure it doesnt work on xp or linux,instead of the normal " doesnt support" ,not only is this a retard idea,its just show how greedy MS is.
All companies are in there for money yes.
But Gates has freaking 100 billions on his own,does he really need to take over the console market and fuck it up.
Yes this affect the console market,if a greedy company buy up another company and then make sure it can only sell to them in their own way.
Reminds me of Nintendo who made sure FF Crystall could only be played by a GBA good move Nintnedo,when you finally had square-enix atleast close,they had to hurt their buisness sell to benefit for themself.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 15:37
I dont think its bad it will be vista only, i mean after Vista is released, most games will probably head that route, because its a differnet kernel than on XP and 2000, i personally have no problems at all with winXP, but then again i fix computers for a living

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 18:35
This is Bill Gates..



He was arrested for running a red light and driving without a license in New Mexico in 1977. Two years earlier he had received tickets for speeding and driving without a license.

Now, if you boot up a PC, anywhere, there' s a damn good chance it' ll have a version of Windows on there because Microsoft currently occupy 90% of the operating system market.

The guy himself has a personal fortune of 90 Billion US dollars!

Ok, so technically he doesn' t need any more money, but who cares?

Halo 2 on Windows Vista needs to be an updated version, like i said, if they do with that what Valve did with Counter Strike: Source then they' re on to a winner...

Frankly, i think it should come free with Vista, it should be built in. But if they do plan on selling it it should be released at £20 rather than £30.

If Microsoft own it, why would they make it compatible with somebody elses operating system? That' s just stupid Quez!

Sony bought Guerilla Games and Zipper Interactive amongst others, ...i don' t hear anyone complaining about them benefiting themselves...

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 19:08
Why can' t they just make it work with WinXP? I think it' s really dirty to force interested people to get the latest Windows just to play it. There are more people than you think who keeps their old OS for a long time.
Anyway, I think MS is deliberately making Windows full of errors and such. Why? Well, lets say they release a Windows version that runs perfectly and that has incorporated everthing you might possibly need. Then who would be stupid enough to buy another upgrade? MS makes Windows suck in order to ensure future sales of their " better" systems. They can do this only because they have no competition. It' s diiiiiirty.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 19:53
Ha, yeah but Windows has to elolve too to make sure it can support games that use new technology and stuff.

I' m betting Halo 2 will require a 64-bit processor and the 64-bit version of Vista!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 21:19

Ha, yeah but Windows has to elolve too to make sure it can support games that use new technology and stuff.

I' m betting Halo 2 will require a 64-bit processor and the 64-bit version of Vista!


If oblivion runs on winxp,then halo2 can too that runs on a freaking xbox which is basically a pc,winxp will not have any problem working for future games for 2-3 years ahead," atleast" .
This is only a market move by greedy ms.
And people saying sony are greedy well now you got MS on the scene too,xbox was just a gift,xbox360 and the future is to become a greedy dominate monopol empire at the console scene,however im getting all 3 consoles...but this sux.


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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 21:37
If they update it and don' t just port it then they could feasibly make it require a 64-bit processor if they really wanted to.

I' m sure Microsoft don' t mind that you don' t like them or their ideas, ...in fact, i just spoke to Bill and he say' s he forgives you!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 23:12
yeah, microsoft is actually pretty accepting of the people who think they' re ruining the game industry. my friend, who hated Xbox with a fiery passion that burns in the bowels of hell itself (not Microsoft, just Xbox) wrote a letter that was pretty derrogitory and they sent a polite & complete response to him telling him the things he had missed when describing the xbox, and making him feel like so much of a moron, that he sat down to play stubbs the zombie with me.

Halo would be excellent on vista. i just hope they upgrade the capabilities a bit. the map editor alone would be enough to sell thousands upon thousands of copies. and as for putting it on vista in the first place, i think they have every right to do that. i mean... look at it this way. what if jak & daxter had come out for the original playstation, two months after the playstation 2. they' re looking for money, duh. but they' re also using their licencing rights to the best of their capabilities.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 10, 2006 23:30
It' s all pretty academic anyways, it' l be a matter of minutes before someone produces a patch to get Halo2 running on XP / kettle / fridge / insert pointless multiplatform port here...

re: os' s I' ve had to deploy them to large networks for years in the past, and I remember with some hilarity those that swore never to upgrade from win98..
XP rolled out the easiest ever, you just PXE booted your pc' s and pointed them at a centra installation, et voila! 600 identical machines, awesome. I imagine Vista to have this and more.

excluding ME edition (the only os ms unoficially apologised for) all ms os' s do the job they were intended for for the majority of people. If you' ve got the shiny new car you might as well have the interior!

oh and locopuyo, thank you for brightening my day ' nubtard ' is now my official word of the day and I will use it as many times as poss...


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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 01:06
Rather than releasing completely new version of Windows, wouldn' t it be much easier to let people download upgrades via the Internet?
And the prices! I mean, the development costs for making Windows can' t be that high that it requires the pricing Windows has today. Think of it, Bill Gates and Microsoft does have a lot of money. Too much money and that' s thanks to their dirrrrty prices.
I still like Windows but there is so many things that pisses me off.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 01:24
Personally Im not upgrading to Vista until I put together a whole new machine. As I did with XP. And I dont think many ppl who didnt get Halo 2 when it came out would consider it a big incentive (it' s available for £12 2nd hand atm which just illustrates its demand is now). I got Halo:CE on PC months after release out of curiousity but didn' t think it was amazing.

I suppose one advantage of MS letting Halo 2 work on XP or linux or even Mac, is that ppl would suddenly gain a bit of respect for them instead of the usual, " I hate MS but meh I' ll have to buy their software anyway, since linux is so undersupported and mac is so expensive" Sure then some people might not buy Vista straight away or god forbid buy linux, but more people would respect MS. I sure would. But I guess respect counts for very little if you' ve already got a monopoly! You just become a hated dictator, until someone takes you down by force!
Still I guess they made 360 kind of compatible with PSP and iPod (without asking them first mind you!), but you have to question their intent. Well it' s probably obvious really! :P

I' d call myself a ' PC player' and I think the Halo games have a lot of artistry to them which I love, but at the end of the day they' re pretty shallow games.

I think MS are getting complacent with Halo, the only reason it was so successful was cos it had hardly any competition from other XBox games! Wheras there are plenty of other cool fps' s on PC that are also designed for M+K.
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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 01:58
now if they bundled Halo 2 for free with vista...

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 02:07

Frankly, i think it should come free with Vista, it should be built in.


I already got that one in dude!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 02:09
Now that wont happen, it might be cheap, but it wont be free, your talking about MS, they want to make money!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 02:32
I think it sould only be ' sold' if it' s completely updated (like Counter Strike: Source).

My bloody 360 has crashed twice today while playing eM -eNCHANT arM-

It' s the first time it' s happened. I got and have played all 15 of the launch titles (with my 360 on 2nd Dec, ...UK launch), Ridge Racers 6 (which sucks) and Dead or Alive 4 and they' ve all been fine!

I' m not entirely sure what possessed me to buy a Japanese RPG because although there are bits of English in it, you can' t actually select English like other Japanese titles.

I haven' t got a bloody clue what' s going on, but it looks oh so purdy!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 02:58
LMAO


I would have waited till an English release of the game, really i would. ;) maybe its time for you to learn Japaneese!

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 03:19
Nah. I bought it simply to check it out and see what it was like. I' ll be buying the US or UK release anyway, but it is gorgeous!!!

It has a strange strategy-esque grid system though, it' s tricky to figure out :(

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 03:28
How on earth can you afford to buy a 50£ game just to check it out and buy another language version later?

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 03:41
I have loads of money saved from working abroad last year, and since i' m doing a degree in games development i like to get as much stuff as possible.

I know what you mean though, but i' ll probably stick the Japanese version on eBay when i get the UK version and at least get something for it.

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RE: Halo 2 for PC Surprise Surprise - Feb 11, 2006 04:03
Yeah, i mean i have trouble just getting money for one game a month, some ill simply have to wait till they are in the bargain bin.

But then again, i just bought a house!

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