Who do you think has the greatest IPs

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Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 10:44
Forgot how spell Intellectual Properties
game, names, and characters

Sega for me

going list very few
hope others do more.

Streets of Rage
Ristar
Sonic (when done right)
Skies of Arcadia/ Eternal Arcadia
Shining Force
Golden Axe
Burning Rangers
Phantasy Star
Shenmue
OutTrigger
Crazy Taxi
Dragon Force
Guardian Heroes

I know that there are many more that I want to list
but from Sega it is too many alone and I don' t fell like it.

Then Capcom and Nintendo.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 11:06
Sega, Konami, Capcom, and Namco...

I could Easily live happily in a gaming world where they were the only companies pumping out games
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 12:17
I have a static IP.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 13:18
you gotta love DHCP
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 15:43
I like Bungies IP' s Halo, Myth, and Oni, all great games in the respectfulway.

Nintendo with Zelda and Mario are great as well

Ofcourse being a sucker for FPS games, ID games has great IP' s as well!

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 18:51
Square... or nintendo.
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 19:25
It' s id Software VX, ...saying ID is saying ' eye dee' . Loads of people make that mistake.

Anyway: Capcom, Sega, Nintendo and Konami...

I think Microsoft Games Studios have the potential for great IP' s. Personally i Rare to re-make Killer Instinct for 360, but only after Banjoe Threeie!

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 20:19
I' ve got static IP from my ISP byt thanks to my Router I get DHCP :)

Nintendo and SEGA - other companies have one or two IP' s , but none has that many and that significant to me (Shenmue , ZELDA , MARIO , METROID . F-ZERO, Virtua Fighter ,OUTRUN and so on).

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 21:11
SEGA

Virtua Fighter
Sonic
Shinobi
Streets Of Rage
Golden Axe
OutRun
Sega Rally
Daytona
Ristar
Nights
Scud Race
etc

NINTENDO

Mario
Zelda
Metroid
F-Zero
Donkey Kong

SNK

King Of Fighters
Samurai Shodown
Last Blade
Fatal Fury
Metal Slug

CAPCOM

Street Fighter
Resident Evil
Strider
Final Fight
Viewtiful Joe

SEGA and SNK mean the most to me, though both Nintendo and Capcom come very close seconds.

Unfortunitely I feel Capcom and SNK have lost much of their appeal. Capcom seemingly have forgotten how to make a good 2D fighting game, and SNK have got 90% new dev staff, meaning pretty much all their new stuff is rubbish. Still Resi 4 was awesome!
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 03, 2006 22:49
SNK don' t exist anymore, they went bankrupt and were aquired by Playmore. They are SNK Playmore now and they own all the IP' s. Still, it' s not the same company and many of the developers left to go elsewhere.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 04, 2006 01:40
I know the old SNK don' t exist anymore, but only in the form of their development staff. The management is largely the same with the executive producer of the old KOF' s and the head of the old SNK in charge. Just look at the credits of the old games and the new.

Essentially the mangement of the old SNK created Playmore and then bought back all of their old IP' s. Sadly they couldn' t afford to develop the games themselves until now (they got Eolith to do KOF, Mega Enterprise to do MS), and even then they have only made SVC, KOF03 onwards and NGBC.

They are now known as SNKPlaymore (SNKP)

Playmore are however in the process of bringing back some of the old SNK creative staff. KOF XI and NGBC sees some of the old music composers return, and KOF 03 saw some sprite artis come back. Slowly they are trying to rebuild the old SNK, but with a focus on good business in addition to quality development.

KOF XI is much improved over 03 but is still largely inferior to 2000 and before.
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 04, 2006 02:28
...gee.. ..don' t you just love retro gaming?.....
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 04, 2006 06:23
Mark of the wolves is my favourite from SNK (talking about 2D fighting games ofcourse)
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 04, 2006 18:35
It ranks up there as one of my favs too. Along with KOF98, 2000 and Last Blade it' s definitely one of SNK' s finest creations.

According to a Playmore producer working on KOF Max Impact 2 a sequel to MOTW was 70% done at the original SNK. Sadly all work was abandoned in 2000 along with the bulk of the original SNK' s staff.

I don' t want SNKP to touch it though, not unless they get back more of their old creative staff.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 04, 2006 20:32
Does the Pokemon characters count as Nintendos? I' m not the biggest Pokemon-fan in the world but some of them are really cool.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 00:56
Yeah, Pokemon' s classed as a Nintendo IP but they weren' t created by Nintendo.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 14:53
Well I was hoping people would list titles of games and such.

I don' t want to live with one company but if it meant higher quailty...

I said Sega because they have the greatest amout that I acutually like.
and those of which I like the most


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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 16:09
hey kyo.k, they were actually planning on making a G:MOTW 2?? I luv that 2d fighter man, better than the KOF series. looks diff, plays a bit diff. It' s more fluid than KOF, I think KOF is a bit too stiff, as in the players are too stiff. anyway, SNK rocks, they have some pretty good shit. Have u guys played Goal Goal Goal?? it' s a soccer game from SNK, and it' s sooooo sick, lol, when u do power shots, depending on the player you have, the ball turns into a fish, or or ball of fire, does diff moves, lol, it' s so crazy. I' ll just name a few i like from SNK:

Garou: Mark of the Wolves
KOF 98
Pulsar
The Last Blade 2
Samurai SHowdown 4
Metal Slug 1, 2 and X, after that they lost their touch
Sengoku 3
Shock Troopers 2
Street Hoop (i think it' s called, anyway, that basketball game)
Fatal Fury special edition
namco 1942 (i think it' s called)

BTW, 2d games ROCK!!!

I wanna see what Sonic Riders is like. I like racing games, especially fun racing, kinda like that, or like star wars pod racing. PGR is too real life.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 17:41
I haven' t played that Goal game but I might have to check it out now, sounds really mad.

2D games are awesome, shame most devs seem to have forgotten how to make decent ones. We' ve always got the old stuff though, and will always will great.

I also like arcade racing games. Scud Race (Super GT) being perhaps my fave of all time along with the original Sega Rally. Not sure how Sonic Riders will turn out as all the vids I' ve seen (Kikizo, IGN) made the game look quite poor. It looks like it has quite a few flaws already.

Anyway the game I was hoping Sega woudn' t fuck up on was Sega Rally 2006, and guess what? They did. I can' t believe that the game looks worse than the 6 7 year old Model 3 Rally 2.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 17:44
I really love 64.85.31.122
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 22:39
I think 64.85.31.123 is better - both as a sequel and stand alone game

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 23:53
Seeing how i love rpg' s ofc the choice of Squaresoft was the most reasonble,however they are now square-enix...as you know,and even stronger...all though mistwalker is hurting them a bit,
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 05, 2006 23:57
Ok, so how many Ip' s do Sqaure-enix have?!

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:21
Kingdom Hears, Grandia? Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest`?

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:23
just to name a few,they also have the right to do a new chrono game,however i doubt that will happend soon,especially when sakaguchi and akira is doing blue dragon who is like a sequal to CT...
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:32
THAT many??? WOW!!!! I' d be impressed if i liked any Final Fantasy game since FF8...

They don' t have a lot of IP' s though. It' d be nice if they did something else, i think they need to because Mistwalker is going to out-do them in the RPG' s market. Probably!

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:35
That many?
And people say bungie,but that is right?!
Its all about taste,and also square-enix is a bout grand-epic games not a EA company who spit out games,however on the later year square-enix has now produced many low quailty game while keeping the AAA...
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:40
Nah Bungie don' t have the greastest IP' s. Anyone who says that is stupid!

I see what you' re saying and it does all come down to personal taste, but for me to say a company has the greatest IP' s it needs a good variety of excellent games that really stand out in their respective genres.

I' m a Capcom/Sega/Konami fan, i think those companie have the best range of IP' s there are. Like you said, it' s about personal taste.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:48
Well if i had to say 2-3 i would have said rare and sega.
People should know pdz/kameo went from gc-xbox then rushed to a xbox360 launch.
So no,i dont think their golden age is over or is forever lost...
And Sega is back in the buisness with games and being a publisher,heck they even publish Total war serie now.
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 00:54
Kameo is good but Perfect Dark isn' t.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 01:09
People seems to say the opposite...
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 01:43
PDZ is just overhyped.

Kameo has superior textures, sound and gameplay. It' s a very short game and the end boss fight is terrible but it' s a better game than PDZ.

I was sorely disappointed with PDZ, i expected much much more.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 06:42
quez - blue dragon is not in anyway conected to either of chrono games.

Square-Enix is indeed the holder of the entire RPG Genre.(I don' t care about Bioware and I' m not sure about Oblivion yet) :)

Actually people say that PDZ isn' t a great game and that alone makes it a huge dissapointment (after massive hit like PD for N64).

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 06:50
Obviously, you' re right. PDZ is not a one of a kind game, it' s an emotionless egoshooter that isn' t complete and is full of failures. The characters are designed loveless, and because of that the game ist almost without an atmosphere.

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 06, 2006 08:18

It' s id Software VX, ...saying ID is saying ' eye dee' . Loads of people make that mistake.


I believe it' s more that it started out as ID (eye-dee) but has progressed to id (as in Freud) over the years. At least, if the id website is anything to go by...

http://www.idsoftware.com/business/

I think the whole thing is pretty much open to debate/interpretation, mebbe Romero wanted ID and Carmack plumped for id. :) To quote Harry Hill, " There' s only one way to settle this... FIIIIIIIGHT!"

Anyhoo, IPs - If it were only a choice of one, it' d have to be Sega. Nintendo would have pegged it for me if they weren' t whoring out Mario so much these days, but then most of the best games I' ve played this generation are Nintendo' s.

But to be fair Sonic is a bit sullied of late (sorry Adam, but sure you' ll agree). Shadow the Hedgehog made me physically ill upon just hearing about it, but Sonic Rush more than makes up for it.

Capcom are definitely up there.

Don' t agree on Bungie, the question was regarding IPs (plural), and they only have Halo that' s worth a damn. Oni was decent but flawed, and Myth...

Nobody' s mentioned Ubisoft - they deserve a namecheck these days too - all the Tom Clancy stuff, PoP, BG&E, Kong - though they have lost some momentum in 2005.

EDIT: Oh, and I' m forgetting Sony. They deserve more respect than they' re given on this front. Ape Escape, EyeToy, Gran Tourismo (love or hate it), Harmonix games (well, they' re Sony published, they might as well own the IPs), Ico and SotC... I could go on, but can' t think of any more good examples.
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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 07, 2006 10:26
God of War.

Best Sony game i' ve played. Well, Shadow of the Collosus comes close...

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RE: Who do you think has the greatest IPs - Feb 07, 2006 18:56

quez - blue dragon is not in anyway conected to either of chrono games.

Square-Enix is indeed the holder of the entire RPG Genre.


I know that,but its the same people behind BD as CT,and its basically a new CT in next generation,i doubt Square-enix dares to create a " Chrono" at the moment,or any time soon.

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What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.