Splinter cell series or MGS series ?? and why??

I think Splinter Cell would be Number 1 for many people if it had a more charismatic hero, a much better scenario and cut scenes made with the in game engine like in MGS... that would make the franchise more popular than ever but why still devlopers don' t get it ...

Im mostly a splinter cell person, its really great games. I like MGS as well, i played Twin Snakes for GCN, and i played MGS 2, on xbox, though it bugged on me, so i didnt complete it, thinking of doing another run on it.. but i havent taken the time yet

You have angered the mighty Rampage! This is your opinion, but I' m about to contradict everything you just said.

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I think Splinter Cell would be Number 1 for many people if it had a more charismatic hero, a much better scenario and cut scenes made with the in game engine like in MGS... that would make the franchise more popular than ever but why still devlopers don' t get it ...

1-Sam Fisher pwns Snake. Sure snake knows Kung Fu and has a rocket launcher but he doesn' t hang from a pipe and reach down to slice someones kneck open! Sam has so many cool moves it' s baffling. I also think Sam looks far cooler and has a much more realistic personality. I can relate to Sam much more than I can relate to Snake. Oh, and Sam' s voice makes Snake look like a wimp.

2-Better scenerio?! Sure you may like going up against a 60 foot nuclear monster but personally I like the fact that Splinter Cell is grounded in realism. Not to mention every moment of Splinter Cell has me gripping my controller like there' s no tomorrow. the game keeps you so tense! Oh, and when I kill someone, they are dead. You don' t have a freakin endless hoard of soldiers that never stop respawning. Both games have you saving the world. I just like that SC does it in a far more realistic way.

3-Why do I want a ton of cutscenes!? Games are meant to be played, not watched. While I did love the cutscenes the MGS games had to offer, by the end of MGS2 I was completely fed up with them. With SC I' m the one doing the cool moves. I' m controlling the character as events are happening. I like the fact that I' m playing the game.

4-Developers don' t get it?... Ubisoft > Kanomi. Imo, Ubi is one of the greatest developers out their. They have a more solid selection and high quality games than just about any developer out there. Imo, Splinter Cell kills MGS in just about every way. The only MGS I really enjoyed was the first MGS on the PS1. the last two just didn' t do it for me. Riaden sucked ass, and MGS3 didn' t hold my attention for more than 6 hours. When I get a Splinter Cell game I can' t put it down. I' ve beaten the first one around 20 times now. The second one around 10 and I' m going through SC3 for my 6th time right now.The only game I play more than SC is Halo.

I' m not going to go through and explain all of the greatness that is Splinter Cell right now because I' m tired from watching Advent Children 3 times last night. If you want to read how much I like it do a search on Splinter Cell and my name. You' ll find pages on top of pages about me preaching about SC.

Again, everything stated above was my opinion, but my opinion about SC pwns.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

i like the MGS series more.i like the crazy cut scenes,the story,and the gameplay more than the splinter cell series

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Both have their strong points, but I' d say I' m more of a fan of the MGS series. I just find it to be more fun, plus I' m a huge fan of story driven games. I completely disagree with the comments about Sam being uncharismatic though, his dark sense of humour rules!

hm...

Splinter cell.
But it depend on the mood,i love the crazy story in MGS games
I like splinter cell more just because it feels more realistic and i always wanted a game like that.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I really liked SC 1 but it still was buggy and wasn' t quite as smooth as MGS gameplay but it was much more complex

the story of MGS2 is really awesome untill it gets hopeless at the end but SC doeasn' t really have a story - you always (from SC 1-3) have some sort of political conflict that makes an " OK" background but is delivered in poorly directed cutscenes and you don' t play for the story.

Sam Vs Snake? Snake anytime - that voice plus voice-acting and the background since MGS1 - Sam fisher is your everyday Bad Ass Commando who knows it all plus has some funky lines -cool but not quite Snake.In fact bosses in MGS have much better creations than SC' s main hero.

Gameplay - it' s much more complex in SC and much more realistic (with some stupid things like enemies that take many many shots before they die like plastic toys or can hit you with 100% accuracy even when you' re moving in 100% dark area plus some buggy stuff) but it' s almost the same since SC1 with some new moves.
MGS is a smooth AAA console gameplay experience with cool boss fights and awesome minigames.

The thing is those to games are not the same category and have different goals.I' d rather play MGS than SC anytime since it' s not only a great game but it always delivers that awesome feeling of a high production value and gameplay.

Still SC is fun although I don' t like that it' s now less about stealth because you can kill a guy and the other one standing not so far won' t even notice him fallin on the floor or screaming when he' s stabbed.You can try stealh stuff but why would you if it so much easier without it and you don' t get punished when the alarms go off - you just get some target shooting.

Bah, obviously you people never played SC3. If you did, you weren' t good at it.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Actually I did and still I think what I think - try some VooDoo stuff if you' re having so much problems forcing your point of view :)

And you might need some as well,trying to convince us that NR controller is really all " that" .

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

SC and SC:PT were both good games but at that time I still liked MGS better. However when SC3 came out it changed my opinion of it for good. It really is one of the most riveting games I have played. I like the fact that the storyline of SC3 isn' t too fantastical to believe. When I play a stealth game - I want realism, and SC3 delivered it.

Still SC is fun although I don' t like that it' s now less about stealth because you can kill a guy and the other one standing not so far won' t even notice him fallin on the floor or screaming when he' s stabbed.You can try stealh stuff but why would you if it so much easier without it and you don' t get punished when the alarms go off - you just get some target shooting.

Try playing SC3 on the hardest difficulty. If you try that, you' ll get your ass handed to you in a showbag. If you havn' t played SC3 on max difficulty, you havn' t really experienced anything at all.

Oh and IMO Sam is so much cooler than Snake

I' m playing now on Expert difficulty - it does change the experience - hard doesn' t do it - It is much better thanks for info :)

Still I prefer MGS :)

I prefer the Splinter Cell franchise. I don' t really care for Metal Gear. To me, the characters are WAY too outlandish. The voice actors ham it up a little too much for me, also. Don' t even get me going on the stories! They' re so ubsurd, it' s funny! Even the names of the bad guys are laughable.

Splinter Cell, on the other hand, ratchets up the tension in the games with extremely realistic scenarios. Some may feel the realism is boring, but I feel that it enhances the immersion. The graphics are also a big selling point. SC is on another level, if you ask me.

I did enjoy the original Metal Gear, on the NES, though.

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I' m playing now on Expert difficulty - it does change the experience - hard doesn' t do it - It is much better thanks for info :)

Still I prefer MGS :)

No worries. I' ve found that the real merit of most games isn' t even shown unless you play it on a hard difficulty. Halo was a prime example of this and playing on legendary enhanced the overall experience that I got from it.

Yeah, Halo was meant to be played on Legendary. Halo2 on the other hand destroyed what made Legendary good in the first game. the first game on Legendary felt real. Everything was balanced as true to life as possible. With Halo2 it' s in no way realistic. When the marines can handle 50 hits from a plasma rifle and MC can only handle three there is something gravely wrong.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

MGS! It' s simply more fun: great story, great characters, great music...

and Rampage99, if you need so much realism why don' t you try living a bit?

Shenmue3 is coming!

Why is it my luck that people just pop into this forum to insult me? I do " live" kid. I have a very active life. You know nothing about me. Hell, that' s your first post. You don' t need to bother coming back. Making your first post an insult isn' t a good way to get a good first impression.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

I got into medal gear solid on the ps one back in the day. I played the shit out of that game. I loved that game and every night me and medal gear solid would have a quite chat about our day and then cuddle for a few hours before heading of into dream land....wait sorry off track again. The series messes with my head. I really love how Hideo tried in one and two to break the fourth wall of video games and realize itself.....does this make sense to anyone else? I tried to get into SC as well when the first one game out. But the gameplay was a little too complex for me...(I think maybe I am just lazy) and I got stuck and ended up returning my stolen copy to the game store I used to work at....I think that if I spent more time with sc I would get into it but hideo did have a point at the release of his teaser for mgs4 at E3 when he had snake wearing the magical trinoculars....(which by the way the creators of the sc franchise came out in an interview stating that the glowing head band thingy could never exist in real life....for all you realists)....of the subject again...so the guy takes off the goggles and Snake is there...suprise...so hideo is just saying that he basically invented this genre and he should get props where props are due....maybe a one handed raise the roof at least....;)

Metal gear gaved me stealth game that i always wanted,i mean we always loved playing hide' n seek when we was youn ^^ and the story and plot is just so fukking amazing i love it.
Its crazy but cool.
But Splinter cell,has what i always wanted more,something " realistic" .
You really feel like a true spy.And i love the actions and the movement sam does,and the things that you always thought about,like turning of lights shooting out lamps etc,hide bodies and so on.
Yes you can do it in mgs but not as much and it doesn' t feel so real.
Also the control in splinter cell is much better then mgs if you ask me.
So is the graphic.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

Why is it my luck that people just pop into this forum to insult me? I do " live" kid. I have a very active life. You know nothing about me. Hell, that' s your first post. You don' t need to bother coming back. Making your first post an insult isn' t a good way to get a good first impression.

LOL

Wow! Can you imagine going through that whole registration process, just to come in and insult someone? Talk about not having a life!

for a guy with 1375 posts you should know what an offtopic is...one more thing, don' t be stupid assuming that you are older or smarter than me just because you visit this site a long time before me.

(and to finish my first offtopic[sorry everyone], I' m not here to impress you)

ORIGINAL: Ak1ra

for a guy with 1375 posts you should know what an offtopic is...one more thing, don' t be stupid assuming that you are older or smarter than me just because you visit this site a long time before me.

(and to finish my first offtopic[sorry everyone], I' m not here to impress you)

No you are not here to impress him. You are here to berate him.

Look, you coming in here to insult Rampage and try to start some flame war is not warranted, and not appreciated. Just drop it, and stick to the topic, please.

that is actually the reason I am a new/upcoming fan of this site. I feel like everyone is chill and easygoing and pretty smart about what they say...like backing stuff up. I dont need another flameboy because that is what pushed me away from my last forum.

I would like to get back on topic though. It seems like it comes down to the age old argument fantasy vs realism. I will always pick fantasy in video games. But you did have a point Rampage the comment about not playing sc3 or not being good at it cause I didnt play it...and I am pretty bad at the game. I should invest some more time I am just lazy.

ORIGINAL: Jartsu

that is actually the reason I am a new/upcoming fan of this site. I feel like everyone is chill and easygoing and pretty smart about what they say...like backing stuff up. I dont need another flameboy because that is what pushed me away from my last forum.

Exactly. I like these forums simply because of the laid back and intelligent people who lurk here.

ORIGINAL: Ak1ra

don' t be stupid assuming that you are older or smarter than me just because you visit this site a long time before me.

Ak1ra you aren' t off to a great start to these forums. Rampage spoke to you in that way because you gave him reason to. Your first post was offensive and had very little relevance to what we were discussing. Act like a child and prepare to be treated like one. You' ll find it' s the same for pretty much every other forum out there.

ORIGINAL: Jartsu

It seems like it comes down to the age old argument fantasy vs realism. I will always pick fantasy in video games.

I too love fantasy/sci-fi stuff. It' s my favorite genre and most of the games/books that I read. But I feel a stealth game should be realistic and riveting - and SC pulls this off admirably. I find that I am completely immersed in the game whenever I play it, always going through different scenarios in my head before I make my next move and thinking of the consequences of my actions. I like SC because it forces me to think before I act while still keeping the suspense and fun.

When I play a videogames I try to enjoy myself and have fun...is a realistic game more fun than a fantasy one? Can be, but most of the times it' s not. I think the only exception are the sport games, even that the car games are more fun if arcade.

I' d like more a fantasy game than a realistic game. Games like GTA San Andreas are too real. I can' t imagin how that can make fun.

(Make shore you' ve seen Project Offset. It' s really worth it)

hitting old ladies with an ambulance is fun...(in a sick and twisted way)

That' s a tough one.

SC rocks because of the realistic graphics and all of the cool gadgets and the fact that he has an all-in-one rifle,the stealth is...well...stealthy.But the problem is,SAM GOES DOWN WAY WAY WAY TOO EASY!!!!

MGS rocks because of the sweet,sweet weapons,and the fact that the weapons are real,and the funny things they have in it,although SC is not without humor (" Dutch Braffle" )! And Metal Gear is Old school! Remember?NES?Metal Gear?
The biggest problem about MGS is the cutscenes.They are LONG!!

So that' s why I can' t choose.There are many more points to both of them,but I don' t feel like writing them down.

Even the names of the bad guys are laughable.

(like Peter Griffin)
*chuckle*Solid Snake.*chuckle*Shagohad*chuckle*

Ive played all the MG/S games except the most recent, so thist opionion is based on that.

I definatly prefer Splinter Cell. Most of all Chaos Theory. Forget the previous 2 Chaos Theory slaps the shit out of just about every other game out there (with very very few exceptions where it ties). I just love everything about it. Gameplay, Audio, Graphics, ect ect ect. Loved it so much I even went and snagged the soundtrack. SC is the definitive stealth. It blends brains and brawn perfectly and seamlessly.

I guess it also helps that Im an Ubisoft whore...

I also cast my vote for splinter cell.
Not to knock metal gear, if there wasnt metal gear, we would have splinter cell.
I like sc because of the fantasic atmosphere.
Mg is more about bazar ideas and japanse characters.
But that can also be good.

It' s allright, dude.

I vote 4 MGS, because I think that it has a bigger potencial and a greater gameplay. Don' t take it hardly, Rampage.

it' s true that sam is more realistic but i don' t think he can compare to snake....the mgs series is legend now..although i do enjoy SC too....it' s just that kojima' s game lights ur imagination with his story and characters....it sticks with u...whereas SC might be forgettable in some areas ...and snake eater just topped it off...a really superb game....although the cam angle limted the experience...can' t wait for Subsistance

Very big MGSfan as u can see from my name, but also love splinter cell, both games have good and bad points as do most games. But it is very hard to choose. cant wait to see MGS4 and SPLINTER CELL 4 on the next GEN consoles.

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