GT4 Delayed!

From IGN:

November 18, 2004 - There was worry in the Gran Turismo crowd last night. After we posted This Story stating that the Japanese version of Gran Turismo 4 would be delayed in Japan until December 28 of this year, the letters started pouring in regarding its U.S. release date. Sure everyone knew that it was likely that GT4 would now slip into next year here in the States, but there was no confirmation of it.

There is now.

In a statement released by Sony Computer Entertainment America this morning, the U.S delay of Gran Turismo 4 was officially authenticated.

" The release of Gran Turismo 4, originally set for December 14th, 2004, will change to the first quarter of calendar year 2005," said Ron Eagle, Public Relations Manager, SCEA. " With Gran Turismo 4, the company is
committed to providing consumers with the most complete racing game built
to date. Natural challenges with finalizing all the key features and
localization issues across worldwide territories have led to the difficult
choice of pushing back the release date in order to ensure that Gran
Turismo 4 lives up to the exacting standards of the 36 million-plus fans
worldwide that have purchased previous versions of our best-selling
franchise."

Eagle continued, " The Gran Turismo series has helped to define car culture and its fans have come to expect superior attention to detail combined with revolutionary technology that delivers unmatched graphics, realistic car physics, and an authentic racing experience that exceeds any previous racing title. Sony Computer Entertainment America is steadfast in our commitment to producing a superior product and is confident that the launch of Gran Turismo 4 will set a new benchmark for all other racing games to follow. With the history of the franchise and high consumer anticipation, Gran Turismo 4 still serves as an important part in Sony Computer Entertainment America' s upcoming first party lineup."

This is where you go, SWEET BE-JEBUS!!!!

This actually comes as a relief. With the backlog of games I' ve got, I' m kinda thankful I don' t have to worry about GT 4 until next year.

Because when it does come out, I WILL get it that very day.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Maybe they saw what was happening with Halo 2 and its glitches. They saw that people hound the developers en masse about the glitches, so the developers decided to fix their mountain of bugs before release! A concept every developer should follow.

ARGH! I played that last year at the 2003 PS experience in London! From what I played it was rubbish! And they have the cheek to bring out that £20 GT4 game! They' re just gonna keep delaying it....

Bah! How long has GT4 been delayed for now? 2 years? More? Too ambitious? Maybe.

Anyway I thought Prologue was really good. Admittedly a glorified demo it was enjoyable and the Italian hillside village was an awesome track.

Gossi: Uh...no. GT 4' s first actual release date was August of this year. This will be its second delay.

If you want to complain about delays, look no further than the official DelayBox:

Ninja Gaiden: 2 years
Fable: 2 1/2 years
Brute Force: 1 1/2 years
Morrowind: 8 months
SW: KotoR: 2 years

It' s almost worst than the PC and the likes of DOOM 3 and Half-Life 2.

Kikizo Staff Writer

If you want to complain about delays, look no further than the official DelayBox:

Should I be surprised that in the process of defending GT4 you bashed the X-Box?

Naw.....

But you really should reach a maturity level beyond system bashing.

And no, saying " X" game on X-Box is your favorite of all time won' t cut it because a system bash is a system bash no matter how you try and justify it.

lotusson: Call it whatever you want. The Xbox is the worst system when it comes to delaying hyped games. It' s not an opinion, it' s an indisputable fact, as evidenced by those titles. The PS2 is the worst system for overall graphical quality and the GC is the worst system for online play (obviously). Have a problem with either of those?

But I guess you' re right. Nobody is allowed to say something negative about anything. Unless it' s you, of course. Then it' s just unbiased objectivity, right?

Kikizo Staff Writer

Who the shit cares you retard? this thread was about GT4 being delayed, not which console sucks at what. For once swallow your fucking retarded fanboyism and just look at what is being said, not what you want to hear, you fuck.

Oh and by the way - Delaybox, pure comic genious(sp?) no wonder you are a professional writer, with all that wit.

lotusson: Call it whatever you want. The Xbox is the worst system when it comes to delaying hyped games. It' s not an opinion, it' s an indisputable fact, as evidenced by those titles. The PS2 is the worst system for overall graphical quality and the GC is the worst system for online play (obviously). Have a problem with either of those?

But I guess you' re right. Nobody is allowed to say something negative about anything. Unless it' s you, of course. Then it' s just unbiased objectivity, right?

And by bashing the X-Box that somehow makes GT4 less delayed? No one was bashing the PS2, yet you felt the need to bash the X-Box.

Tsk tsk tsk.... that' s just poor form fathoms.

P.S. A couple of your examples are blatant lies.

Ninja Gaiden - Original release date, December 2003

It was delayed.

Actual release date - March 2004

3 months.

Hardly two years you suggested.

To further back up my evidence,

The shipment announcement closes the book on Gaiden' s long and winding road to retail. Originally announced in May 2002, it was yanked from a holiday 2003 release at the last minute, earning it a Most Disappointing Delay of the Year nomination by GameSpot. In February, the Team Ninja-developed game was delayed a further two weeks so that it would arrive " without any compromise on the quality," according to Tecmo' s John Inada.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/ninjagaiden/news_6090499.aspx

Next time, do us a favor.

Simply don' t bash systems.

Nice one lotusson.Someone had to put him in his place.
He always said his multiplatform but it looks like he hates the XBOX.

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lotusson: Wrong again. See, published release dates don' t mean anything. When a publisher provides a potential release date to a retailer, that' s what I go by. I worked at EB during those times, and we were able to take pre-orders on Ninja Gaiden for a date as early as January of 2002. A new NG was announced at the end of 2001; the " official" announcement was not unitl May of 2002. Of course, people actually IN the industry knew of its existence long before that, as is the case with most games. DOOM 3, for example, was in EB' s system with an actual release date way back in 2000, but its " official" announcement did not come for some time. A delay is a delay, and it counts as soon as they provide retailers with a date...of ANY kind, even if it is for promotional purposes.

The real simple bottom line is that nobody is allowed to say anything negative about the Xbox around here. It' s been that way for quite some time. Care to deny that as well? Or are you just a saint that we should all bow to for being so objective at all times?

Final point- NOBODY flips out if I complain about the PS2 and past delayed titles. NOBODY. Try to deny that, too.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Umm, correct me if im wrong, but nobody cares. This thread is about GT4 getting delayed, you tard,not about ninja gaiden, or any excuse you think you can get to insult the Xbox.

lotusson: Wrong again. See, published release dates don' t mean anything. When a publisher provides a potential release date to a retailer, that' s what I go by. I worked at EB during those times, and we were able to take pre-orders on Ninja Gaiden for a date as early as January of 2002.

I worked for a video game store too.

You can take pre-orders as soon as the game is announced and your computer updated. The release date is irrelevant.

Or in other words,

Just because you could take pre-orders in 2002 doesn’t mean the game has a release date of 2002.

Only a fool would believe that.

A new NG was announced at the end of 2001; the " official" announcement was not unitl May of 2002.

My point still stands. There was no 2 year delay.

Of course, people actually IN the industry knew of its existence long before that, as is the case with most games. DOOM 3, for example, was in EB' s system with an actual release date way back in 2000, but its " official" announcement did not come for some time. A delay is a delay, and it counts as soon as they provide retailers with a date...of ANY kind, even if it is for promotional purposes.

A delay happens when a date is set and the game fails to meet that date.

NG had a date for Dec 2003, it came out 3 months later. A two year delay isn’t even possible.

The real simple bottom line is that nobody is allowed to say anything negative about the Xbox around here. It' s been that way for quite some time. Care to deny that as well? Or are you just a saint that we should all bow to for being so objective at all times?

Lets not try and justify your idiocy.

\Final point- NOBODY flips out if I complain about the PS2 and past delayed titles. NOBODY. Try to deny that, too.

A) You never have a “final point”. You just keep rambling until the other side gets bored and moves on.

B) So wait. . . you mean you can publicly display your disappointment and no one rushes in to bash you or a console?!?

That’s a cool concept.

When will you learn to do the same?

C) Going back to A, yes, I will be moving on too. I’ve already provided the necessary information to prove I’m right. There’s no reason for me to continue here.

anyone else hear that?

Its the sound of fathoms getting his ass pwned.

I' m going by the Japanese release, and GT4 was down for a winter release last year for most of that year. And that date wasn' t the original release date.

Get the fuck off Fathoms DICK. He' s entitles to his own opinion, so just fucking leave him be. God, talk about a group of life-less fucking nerds. You actually have the wit to sit here and argue with the man about video games? I' ll go look under a fucking rock and find more intresting shit than this.

And Trigger, shut the fuck up you New Zealand turd. That' s why your dirty, disgusting country raised over 20.9% of it' s cloroflurocarbons in the past 10 years. That' s a fucking insult to our planet! And, for the record, what they are arguing about is ON TOPIC, you stupid fuck! The thread is about GT4 being DELAYED. Keyword, DELAYED! They' re arguing about games that have DELAYED. Once again.... Keyword, DELAYED! SHUT THE FUCK UP!


Fathoms, I always got ya back.

*claps hands*

Congrats on bringing up an old argument. Talk about stupid...

In response to the following complaint I have decided to change my signature:

" by the way, yoshimitsu you might want to click the little checkbox that makes your signature disappear." -Jonah Shoemaker, Residential Dumbass

What has New Zealand' s CFC emissions got to do with this?

what NO.Well thanks thats good to know

I worked for a video game store too.

You can take pre-orders as soon as the game is announced and your computer updated. The release date is irrelevant.

Or in other words,

Just because you could take pre-orders in 2002 doesn’t mean the game has a release date of 2002.

Only a fool would believe that.

You worked in a video game store, and can' t read? What did that computer say, my friend? When you go to look up the games that are coming out, the list that gets updated every day, the one that has the hard copies sitting in a book on the counter for the customers to view? The one you consult when someone asks you, " when is ' insert title here' coming out' ? What' s that list called again?

Oh, RIGHT. RELEASE DATES. Very, very rarely, a game gets put on the list with a notation that says it' s only there for pre-order purposes, in which case, it' s clearly labeled. Now I repeat, just to make sure you can absorb this: the list is entitled RELEASE DATES. Ninja Gaiden' s first RELEASE DATE on the list entitled " RELEASE DATES" was 2 YEARS before it' s final RELEASE DATE, and there were about SIX RELEASE DATES in between.

Are we following?

Kikizo Staff Writer

The fact that you' re still trying to muster a comeback only shows how desperate you are. I ended this on page one. There' s no need for me to carry on to page two.

God, you people need to get over this.

Btw, the developers don' t even give a date to stores like EB when it' s first announced. You keep rambling about the dates that are in the computers at your store. Those are made by the f*cking store, not the developers. When a game is announced stores normally slap on a guesstimate of when they think it will come out. Most stores have conflicting release dates when a game is first announced for this reason.

This happened with Halo 2 and it really pissed me off. Everyone talked about the delays and how the game was supposed to be out last Christmas. It was all B*llsh*t. Bungie repeatedly said they have not given a release date and would not until they were sure they could make it. Nov. 9th was the first release date ever given by Bungie. All those previous release dates were made up by stores. Fathoms, your list consists of just that- retailer guesstimates. the only time a game can truely be delayed is when the developer actually says themselves the game is being delayed.

GT 4 had a actuall release date given by its developers, it was pushed back. That is a delay.

Okay this b*llsh*t needs to stop.

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" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Btw, the developers don' t even give a date to stores like EB when it' s first announced. You keep rambling about the dates that are in the computers at your store. Those are made by the f*cking store, not the developers. When a game is announced stores normally slap on a guesstimate of when they think it will come out. Most stores have conflicting release dates when a game is first announced for this reason.

This happened with Halo 2 and it really pissed me off. Everyone talked about the delays and how the game was supposed to be out last Christmas. It was all B*llsh*t. Bungie repeatedly said they have not given a release date and would not until they were sure they could make it. Nov. 9th was the first release date ever given by Bungie. All those previous release dates were made up by stores. Fathoms, your list consists of just that- retailer guesstimates. the only time a game can truely be delayed is when the developer actually says themselves the game is being delayed.

Nope. Retailers AREN' T ALLOWED TO DO THAT. They can venture a guess, but they are NOT allowed to start taking orders for a game UNLESS AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.

Developers don' t have jack sh** to say about the release of their game. That is the responsibility of the PUBLISHER. The publisher relates release dates to retailers, and it goes from there.

As for Halo 2, I really hate to tell you this, but while that bit about Christmas 2003 was nonsense, just about the entire industry believed in the April date that was given soon after. Retailers weren' t the only ones that had it listed; every major site had that April date as well. It was delayed to August, and then to November.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Halo 2' s only release date was Nov. 9th. If you don' t believe it then none of your arguement has substance. There is no point in even arguing with you. Your " facts" are bs.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Halo 2' s ONLY release date? No. That was Halo 2' s only SET release date. If you look beyond that, Halo 2 had about 20 release dates. But it' s Halo 2, so WHO CARES... RIGHT? ALL PRAISE HALO 2!!!!

Psyche.

Halo 2' s only release date was Nov. 9th. If you don' t believe it then none of your arguement has substance. There is no point in even arguing with you. Your " facts" are bs.

Good, make sure you let a bunch of people over at GS and IGN know. Because right around March, there were countless threads in those forums about Halo 2, and how highly anticipated it was for APRIL. I distinctly recall people talking about how they were going to be skipping school and work for the game, and GameSpot' s posted release date was April 14. Then it was posted as August 28. Then it was Nov. 9. Whether or not Bungie set them is irrelevant because Bungie didn' t DENY those dates, either.

And even if anyone didn' t believe it, are we really going to claim that Fable only had one release date? Brute Force? Morrowind? KotoR? Give me a BREAK. I' m sorry, but whether anyone likes it or not, the XBox has been, by FAR, the worst for game delays this generation. No reflection on the system besides that fact.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Whether or not Bungie set them is irrelevant because Bungie didn' t DENY those dates, either.

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Actually, yes, they did.

Their exact words -- " It' s done when it' s done."

That' s all they needed to say. Everything else was pure guess work on retailers and gamers. Hell, my Game Crazy had at least 3 UNOFFICIAL release dates and the Electronic Boutique up the street at least 2 UNOFFICIAL releases dates. Going by your standards Halo 2 was delayed FIVE TIMES just in my hometown.......

How do you go through life being such a tool?

Do us all a favor -- STOP LYING

Every time I debunk one lie, you pull another out your a**.

I hope you realize the only person losing credibility here -- is you.

Because every time we dance, you only accomplish one thing --> make me look good.

Wow, isnt this silly. cyco claims we are all nerds, and blames me for changing the topic, then he goes on about some nerdy bullshit CFC levels, wich is doing both of the things he is against!

Wow, what a smart young boy, somebody deserves a gold star.

lotusson: Here' s the deal:

You do NOT want me to go further here. GT 4 gets a post about being delayed; I say the Xbox delays just about every last major title they' ve had since their existence. You want to do some homework? I' ve already done it, but I don' t feel the need to embarrass you further, just find out for yourself.

Do me a favor, and find, if you will, the OFFICIAL RELEASE DATES for the following titles:

Morrowind: Elder Scrolls III
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Brute Force
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Ninja Gaiden

You want to talk about LIES? Check out this mess. These are a set of the system' s most hyped games BESIDES Halo, and you would not believe the delays with these titles. I' m making a simple factual point, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. I' m not entirely sure why you think it' s offensive to say any of this in the first place.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Do me a favor, and find, if you will, the OFFICIAL RELEASE DATES for the following titles:

You mean, like what I did for Ninja Gaiden on page 1?

I' ve already pointed out the major flaw in logic. No need for me to go back and do it for every title.

(claims his front row seat.)

Doesn' t this forum have moderators?

So far this hasn' t gotten bad enough for moderation to step in.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

lotusson: You can believe what you want. You can believe that NG only had one or two " official release dates," when in reality there were four. You can think that all those other titles were " never delayed" with " no official release dates."

There' s something you' re going to have to admit, that the ENTIRE INDUSTRY, including MS themselves, has admitted to: major titles on the Xbox have difficulty hitting their prospected release dates, much more so than any other system. Btw, Nintendo and the GC has the best record, according to my research.

That' s the only point I' m trying to make, and something everyone who knows anything readily realizes. Do you really think I came up with the term " DelayBox" ? It' s been in and around the Internet since the ridiculous number of delays surrounding KotoR, BF, NG, Blinx, and several others. It' s been a problem. A BIG one.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Well that was a wholy pathetic debate. Lotusson, stop owning fathoms so much, he' s just a ps2 fanboy.

Hell, if this thread gets closed I' ll be pissed. I' ve said a lot worse than the stuff being said in here to others here.

In response to the following complaint I have decided to change my signature:

" by the way, yoshimitsu you might want to click the little checkbox that makes your signature disappear." -Jonah Shoemaker, Residential Dumbass

What I want to know is what Xbox delays have to do with Gran Turismo 4 being delayed.

Well that was a wholy pathetic debate. Lotusson, stop owning fathoms so much, he' s just a ps2 fanboy.