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Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 02:38
I'm sure you've all seen this in the news by now....


http://blog.ted.com/2009/05/darwin_validate.php






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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 02:51

she has certain undeniable human characteristics such as forward facing eyes and even an opposable thumb.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 02:56
That looks like a raptor toe to me. Undeniable Evidence Humans evolved from Velociraptors
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 09:10
Regardless of whether or not you subscribe to the belief that we have evolved from lower mammals... this is about science and religion (using Christianity for the sake of argument).

A 47 million year old fossil couldn't possibly exist if the world was only created 6000...

Do i think that they're right and this is the missing link? Yes.

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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 11:39
It's only a subset of Christians.  Most Christians are honest enough to accept the evidence.  I don't know why but a lot of Americans Christians seem to have trouble with evolution. 

If I was a bullshit artist or a Christian and I wanted to promote religion.  I would shave off the obvious lies to make it more acceptable.  I don't really get the big deal.  Its not as if evolution is solid proof against creationism.  Evolution is only meant to describe the diversity of life.  It doesn't attempt to explain the origin of life or the origin of the spacetime. 

As a thorn against Christianity, evolution exposes only one of many of glaring inconsistencies or falsehoods in the bible.  The mistakes and stupidities in the bible are so vast both in quantity and severity that to me evolution is a minor issue.  Evolution itself is not debatable in the scientific community though, no respected biologist is questioning evolution itself (not even the Christian biologists).  It really hurts a theists position when they attack modern science only in the interest of defending their stories.

Like you mentioned Majik, the age of the Universe is one of the more shocking Christian stupidities.  Aside from fossils and carbon dating and dozens of other methods we use to judge age of planets and such.  I only have to mention the stars and junk in the sky to quickly dispel the 6000 year old myth.  Many galaxies we can see are over billions of light years away. That means we are looking at stars as they were billions of years ago. 
      
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 12:48
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It's only a subset of Christians.  Most Christians are honest enough to accept the evidence.  I don't know why but a lot of Americans Christians seem to have trouble with evolution. 

If I was a bullshit artist or a Christian and I wanted to promote religion.  I would shave off the obvious lies to make it more acceptable.  I don't really get the big deal.  Its not as if evolution is solid proof against creationism.  Evolution is only meant to describe the diversity of life.  It doesn't attempt to explain the origin of life or the origin of the spacetime. 

As a thorn against Christianity, evolution exposes only one of many of glaring inconsistencies or falsehoods in the bible.  The mistakes and stupidities in the bible are so vast both in quantity and severity that to me evolution is a minor issue.  Evolution itself is not debatable in the scientific community though, no respected biologist is questioning evolution itself (not even the Christian biologists).  It really hurts a theists position when they attack modern science only in the interest of defending their stories.

Like you mentioned Majik, the age of the Universe is one of the more shocking Christian stupidities.  Aside from fossils and carbon dating and dozens of other methods we use to judge age of planets and such.  I only have to mention the stars and junk in the sky to quickly dispel the 6000 year old myth.  Many galaxies we can see are over billions of light years away. That means we are looking at stars as they were billions of years ago. 
    


Come off it you know God planted those fossils and stars to fuck with you.  You need to be a believer to make it to heaven, heretic.  Or you can just repent on your deathbed and all will be forgiven.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 14:21
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 16:31
Or maybe we didnt come from lesser animals. Maybe jumping to conclusions every time we find a new fossil has been stupid in the past. Maybe evolution did happen, but not to humans in the extent we saw it in other animals. Maybe Christians need to accept the fact that the bible is mostly fairy tales, while evolutionist need to quit being butthurt. Maybe both groups should focus on a more prudent problem, like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim continent in 20 years.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 16:53
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Or maybe we didnt come from lesser animals. Maybe jumping to conclusions every time we find a new fossil has been stupid in the past. Maybe evolution did happen, but not to humans in the extent we saw it in other animals. Maybe Christians need to accept the fact that the bible is mostly fairy tales, while evolutionist need to quit being butthurt. Maybe both groups should focus on a more prudent problem, like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim country in 20 years.


I hadn't realised Europe was a country. Thanks, I'll focus on that prudently.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 16:56
They'll just twist it around and say god intended for evolution to happen, etc.

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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 17:31
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Or maybe we didnt come from lesser animals. Maybe jumping to conclusions every time we find a new fossil has been stupid in the past. Maybe evolution did happen, but not to humans in the extent we saw it in other animals. Maybe Christians need to accept the fact that the bible is mostly fairy tales, while evolutionist need to quit being butthurt. Maybe both groups should focus on a more prudent problem, like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim country in 20 years.


I hadn't realised Europe was a country. Thanks, I'll focus on that prudently.


I didnt even catch that. Maybe I shouldnt have corrected it though. In 20 years it will be The European Union of Islamic Republics.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 18:19
What's wrong with thinking Evolution is God's design?
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 19:07
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What's wrong with thinking Evolution is God's design?


That's the one thing I don't  get, that argument holds if you believe in God.  I don't get why fundamentalist have to be so fundamental all the time.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 20:06
I dunno. I'd consider myself fundamentalist, and I still manage to accept almost every portion of evolution as sound science.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 21:41
Because it dimishes their credibility, everytime sciennce advances they change their stories, so they try to change them as little as possible.

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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 21, 2009 21:54

like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim continent in 20 years.


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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 22, 2009 03:05
Choup are you meeting your quota?  How many younglings do you have so far?
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 22, 2009 08:30
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Choup are you meeting your quota?  How many younglings do you have so far?


According to statistics he should be having around 6 point something in his lifetime, as opposed to you other Europeans who should be having around 1.6.

On another related note, none of the articles I can find say why this is the "missing link", other than it has opposable thumbs and forward facing eyes. SRS? Dont all primates? Is there a missing link? Maybe. Is this it, or just a new variant of Mika.. I mean ape? Most likely the latter. Sounds like some group of scientists and archeologists are trying to get their names in a history book along with enough grant money to buy more gold on WoW. A chimp has opposable thumbs and forward facing eyes, so by this logic it must be the missing link as well. I just dont buy that this MUST be the 'missing link', because of 2 things that ALL primates have in common.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 22, 2009 18:44
I don't think I could cope with 6 kids!  2 of the fuckers would be enough.  Don't have any at the moment, and not planning to get married yet.  Planning to keep my freedom for a little while longer at least.... that is if you can call a constant life of work free
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 23, 2009 04:38
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I don't think I could cope with 6 kids!  2 of the fuckers would be enough.  Don't have any at the moment, and not planning to get married yet.  Planning to keep my freedom for a little while longer at least.... that is if you can call a constant life of work free


Yes, but you're not the Muslim I have a problem with. You're what I consider to be a normal guy who just happens to be Muslim.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 23, 2009 05:38
I don't care if this generation of any group overpopulates the world.  Unless they age faster than I do, I won't be around to see the world shit on itself.  Fuck 'em. 


On another related note, none of the articles I can find say why this is the "missing link"


Well technically any newly discovered species is a missing link if a different species came after it.  I haven't been diligent with the story so maybe its not related to us.  I just wanted to stir up some commotion.  I saw this story in Neogaf and they had a few nuts who refuse to accept evolution.  I guess it takes a more active forum to really start a shitstorm. 


I don't think I could cope with 6 kids!  2 of the fuckers would be enough.  Don't have any at the moment, and not planning to get married yet.  Planning to keep my freedom for a little while longer at least.... that is if you can call a constant life of work free


Haha, you're starting to sound like me.  I don't know the fine details of Islam but don't you guys get to have multiple wives?  That's one thing you guys got right.  I would be all for moving to a sand desert and converting if I could have six wives.  Put the bitches to work and kick my feet up.    
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 23, 2009 14:09


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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 23, 2009 20:51
Yea there is polygamy in Islam, but it also says you have to treat them equally.  And you just know if you did have 6 wives you'd have a 'favourite', plus each one would want to have kids, and besides nowadays women wouldn't stand for it, its inequality, and then theres jealousy etc etc.

So no these days even in Islam you can't have multiple wives.  Even if it is with the good intention of helping them share the cooking and cleaning workload.   (just kidding!...)   But yea you're right, from a male perspective at least, where's the drawback? 


Yes, but you're not the Muslim I have a problem with. You're what I consider to be a normal guy who just happens to be Muslim.


I can't speak for the Muslims in Virginia, but over here, most Muslims are like me.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 25, 2009 19:01
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Yea there is polygamy in Islam, but it also says you have to treat them equally.  And you just know if you did have 6 wives you'd have a 'favourite', plus each one would want to have kids, and besides nowadays women wouldn't stand for it, its inequality, and then theres jealousy etc etc.

So no these days even in Islam you can't have multiple wives.  Even if it is with the good intention of helping them share the cooking and cleaning workload.   (just kidding!...)   But yea you're right, from a male perspective at least, where's the drawback? 


Yes, but you're not the Muslim I have a problem with. You're what I consider to be a normal guy who just happens to be Muslim.


I can't speak for the Muslims in Virginia, but over here, most Muslims are like me.


Im more of the opinion that the ones in the Middle East are the problem. The only muslims I personally know are pretty cool. 1 is an athlete I graduated with who's father owns a pizza shop, and the other is a gas station owner who is probably a bad example of a muslim because he drinks and spend money on frivilous things like sports cars.
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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 26, 2009 02:41
I don't want one wife let alone six.  Though they have no rights in those countries so I guess it'd be cool, I'd just have 6 maids and keep fucking my gilrfriend.

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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 31, 2009 10:54
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Or maybe we didnt come from lesser animals. Maybe jumping to conclusions every time we find a new fossil has been stupid in the past. Maybe evolution did happen, but not to humans in the extent we saw it in other animals. Maybe Christians need to accept the fact that the bible is mostly fairy tales, while evolutionist need to quit being butthurt. Maybe both groups should focus on a more prudent problem, like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim continent in 20 years.


Europeans are to busy turning  Europe into an actual country to beat the Muslim birth rate. Get ready for that future.

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Re:Science=3 150 385 873 049----------Christianity=0 - May 31, 2009 20:10
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Or maybe we didnt come from lesser animals. Maybe jumping to conclusions every time we find a new fossil has been stupid in the past. Maybe evolution did happen, but not to humans in the extent we saw it in other animals. Maybe Christians need to accept the fact that the bible is mostly fairy tales, while evolutionist need to quit being butthurt. Maybe both groups should focus on a more prudent problem, like the birth rate in Europe making it a majority Muslim continent in 20 years.


Europeans are to busy turning  Europe into an actual country to beat the Muslim birth rate. Get ready for that future.


Europe as 1 country, an Islamic Republic at that, is not a future I want. Europe is already a breeding ground for extremists who feel they are somehow being oppressed by Europeans, which makes no fucking sense.
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