Fallout 3

What do you guys think?

Does it look good or epicly bad.

It definetly isnt going to be the Fallout 3, i or any other old Fallout fans wanted, but does it seem like its going to be fun?

Graphicly its subpar, animations are jerky.

What does the game have going for it?

Im at a loss if i want to cancel my order and get fable 2 instead, i could just get Fallout 3 in a bargain bin fro my pc someday.

I think it looks like Oblivion with guns, which is good for me. The only part about Oblivion I didn't really like was the shitty combat, but if you throw in guns it pretty much solves itself. I didn't like the original Fallout, and I never played Fallout 2. If you have the option between this and Fable, I'd definitely say get Fable. I mean, come on, Vx, you know you just want Fallout so you can complain about it, amirite?

Does anyone like the VATS system?  Seems like a half-arsed gimmick to associate the game with the old turn based system, without really committing to it or making it useful.  You just use it now and then to annihilate one enemy and then go back to playing Oblivion with guns.

Would have peferred to be able to toggle something in the options menu in order to play the whole game in turn-based mode or real-time mode.  I dont see why they are trying to make two games - one to please the Oblivion crowd and the other to appease the Fallout crowd.  They should've committed to one or the other and made it good.

It definitely leans heavier towards Oblivion though, from the videos anyway.

It won't be in the vein of previous Fallout games. Critics will love it, because it'll be an entertaining title. Newcomers to the series will love it, because they have no preconceived notion of what Fallout should be. Fallout purists will hate it, because it won't be what they're looking for.

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Yeah, im looking through GTV which has a lot of video from it, and it looks bad. It lacks the depth of fallout.

http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=43

I dont understand why they had to get the fallout license to make the game since people who like fallout will dislke most of the game.

I still wonder why so many people including myself liked Oblivion when it launched, looking back the game doesnt really have anything going for it.

mm i wish reviews of fable II and Fallout 3 would be posted, the fact that they havent yet, doesnt bode well for what grades they will get,.

It's also Microsoft Game Studios and Bethesda, so it could just be them aggressively enforcing the review embargo.

There's been one review up already. A Swede, though I don't know if he's affiliated with any sort of media. PC Gamer Magazine maybe?

Pulled off a backwater forum I forgot to link to before closing. Sorry.

score: 81%
Pros:
VATS
SPECIAL
Megaton at night
Cons:
A feeling of lifeless backdrops
Lifeless/stale Characters
To much on a too small area

Its Written by Joakim Bennet, who has proclaimed love for Fallout many times over the years he has been at PC gamer sweden.

Other short stuff(not quotes):
Vats is great, realtime combat isnt. The realtime combat (damage/hits etc) doesnt seem to be in sync with whats happening on the screen.
HtH combat in 3rd person is just as bad as in oblivion
Bennet misses the world map, random en****ers, the empty wastes.
AI isn’t great. Enemies running in circles and no reaction from NPC that gets hot from a long distance is quite common.
You can pick up anything that isn’t bolted to the floor.
The SPECIAL system and Perks works great

He also writes about four important points and compare them to the originals:

The Fallout atmosphere
The story
Combat
Perspective(transition to 3d)
Bennet writes that the game delivers on these four points but not all the way.

Heres some short translated segments (English isn´t perfect though ):

“I`m going to take the edge of this review right away. Fallout 3 IS “Oblivion with guns”, No matter what i said earlier. There, I said it, now theres no return.”

“…And everything would be wonderful but that feeling that the game is missing something. I cant quite define it, Call it a feeling, call it whatever you want, but when the gates of vault 101 lies far behind me, the eyes have adapted to the light and 15 hours have passed i start to think. About hopes that have fallen short.
Because in fallout 3 i get most things served on a silver plate right away. Bethesda has tried to fit as much content as possible on a little area. One second im running into a pack of Radscorpions while 30 meters further ahead theres a little settler town. Around the corner i meet some slavers with their captured slaves and beyond the hill some raiders have set up camp. A few minutes of running brings me to some ruins swarming with lethal deathclaws that wants to eat me. Its compressed, maximized and anonymous all at once. It feels like a huge orgy where no ones want to actually “do it”. A lot of bumping and grinding but no friction and no excitement. Many parts but they don’t paint a whole picture.”

“Fallout 3 is an uneven game if I´ve ever seen one”

“I manage to “aquire” a house that I decoratedin pre-war style, and my very own robot-butler, Wadsworth, that always greets me with a delighted cry and calls me madame. But when i sit down in an old dusty sofa and listen to Maybe by The Inkspots on my Pipboy 3000, i notice how soulless my own character is. Lifeless eyes, skin that looks like plastic. Fake. Phony. Bethesda still haven’t managed to instill life into many if the people that inhabit their universe.”

He doesn’t like the voice actors but the dialog is good:

“the dialogs will piss people off, but mostly because they are recorded with voice actors of extremely varying quality. Had some of the lines been put into the original games or vice versa, no one would have complained.”

“… But first and foremost, the game doesn’t let go of you, despite flaws. the story always makes you want to take a few steps more, and after every disappointment there will be a moment of awe. The details, the at times stunning landscape and the possibility to change the main characters look in all eternity.”

“Its hard to let go of my baggage as an old Fallout player, but when i sit down with the third part of the game i really try to stop comparing the games, and at once it feels much better.”

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mm i wish reviews of fable II and Fallout 3 would be posted, the fact that they havent yet, doesnt bode well for what grades they will get,.

I would say they'll both get around a 9.5, so it probably won't help much anyway. I say most sites will give Fable no lower than a 9 and some will probably give 10s, and Fallout will get no lower than an 8.7 and no higher than a 9.5.

I never played the original ones, but I know the feeling of having a cherished game dumbed-down and changed into something else.  So, I think I'll enjoy it; it looks interesting to me.  But I sympathize with the fans of the originals.

I just cancelled my preorder of Fallout 3 and ordered fable instead. Ill get it soemday i guess, it just looks too have departed too mcuh from fallout, i guess if they had named it anything but fallout, i would have been looking forward to it.

I just cancelled my preorder of Fallout 3 and ordered fable instead. Ill get it soemday i guess, it just looks too have departed too mcuh from fallout, i guess if they had named it anything but fallout, i would have been looking forward to it.

Look at the bright side, by the time you get it there should be a few patches already out. I remember when Oblivion first came out I would randomly get stuck in a wall or rock.

Vx Chemical


I just cancelled my preorder of Fallout 3 and ordered fable instead. Ill get it soemday i guess, it just looks too have departed too mcuh from fallout, i guess if they had named it anything but fallout, i would have been looking forward to it.

Just ordered Force Unleashed and Deadspace, so I guess Im cancelling this as well. I just find myself hard pressed to care with Fable 2, WaW, and Gears 2.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Oook. Should have rented TFU. It kicks ass, but once you're done with it, you'll shelve it.

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Eddie_the_Hated

Fallout 3 IS “Oblivion with guns”, No matter what i said earlier. There, I said it, now theres no return.”

mastachefbkw


I think it looks like Oblivion with guns, which is good for me. The only part about Oblivion I didn't really like was the shitty combat, but if you throw in guns it pretty much solves itself. I didn't like the original Fallout, and I never played Fallout 2.

Zoy


I never played the original ones, but I know the feeling of having a cherished game dumbed-down and changed into something else.  So, I think I'll enjoy it; it looks interesting to me.  But I sympathize with the fans of the originals.

To summarize all the quotes above:
From the beginning most of the videos, screen shots and gameplay shown, it was clear that that Fallout 3 was to be like Elder Scrolls with guns.
Most of you never played Fallout 1 or Fallout 2 but elements from the previous games are still there. So if you didn't like that style or type of game Fallout 3 might not be for you.
Eddie_the_Hated i read the "review" you quoted and it seems some of the old problems still exist. Such as cramming too much in a little space.
e.g. Entering combat: Where many enemies come at once, the game takes time to long for everyone NPC, enemies to play.
Hell i have not played Fallout 3 but i still these elements still existing. But i am not going to get discouraged, this is what i expected and wanted to see how the dev. would go around this. So thats why i will pick it up anyway. Try it and see how it plays.

I see some of you pre-ordered it already and now feel disappointed.
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You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

I'm in agreement with Vx. I have no idea why they bothered to get the Fallout IP to begin with. It's nothing like the originals.

It's probably a good game in its own right but I'm not inclined to buy it. It just doesn't interest me.

I don't have massive hopes for it.  I think the healthy attitude is to keep no expectations.  I like the RPG elements, and the whole 50s view of what a post apocalyptic future might be like.  Even if the gameplay is totally different it does have some Fallout charm.  I'm going to get it but I can't see myself playing very much this year.  I'll save it for another time.

Fable 2 and C&C3 Red alert are the two games I'm most excited about in the next two weeks.

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As long as it plays well, I don't care, I really hope it's not too much like oblivion though in terms of genericness, though if it has anything as bad ass as the dark brotherhood type of quests thats enough to justify a purchase.

Ive officially decided. Im keeping my pre-order for this, Gamestop is throwing too much free shit at me to not keep it. Force Unleashed, Deadspace, and Fable II will all be here tomorrow. I cant wait.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

I hate that Europeans has to wait for games, even if its just a few days. It's stupid. I want Dead Space and Fable now damiit.

Vx Chemical


I hate that Europeans has to wait for games, even if its just a few days. It's stupid. I want Dead Space and Fable now damiit.

I feel you, waiting a day is getting to me.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

I just got the new OXM, they gave Fallout 3 a 10.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

immortaldanmx


I just got the new OXM, they gave Fallout 3 a 10.

Those console fags probably never played a real fallout game!

I might say that if fallout 3 had been called

Shattered World or something like that, it would have had a better chance of getting into my game collection.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel every time there's a remake of a John Carpenter film.  Except I wouldn't watch them even if they were renamed.

It doesnt make sense  . Are you telling me that you would have bought the game if it wasnt called "fallout" ? I mean i understand you are pissed that they changed a lot but arent you taking the loyalty thing a little too far ?
I hope you dont take it one step further and start an online petition or something

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immortaldanmx


I just got the new OXM, they gave Fallout 3 a 10.

Those console fags probably never played a real fallout game!

I might say that if fallout 3 had been called

Shattered World or something like that, it would have had a better chance of getting into my game collection.

But if they have no preconceived notions of what fallout is/should be then theyre the most qualified to review it as a game, not how well it relates to the first games.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Yeah, I never played the first two.  Therefore I shall enjoy part 3!

Fallout 3 is like unwrapping a delicouse chocolate, but when you eat it, you discover its a tasty meatball.

While i like meatballs, im in the mood for chocolate. And whats worse i dont want to be decieved.

And looking a head, there are better meatballs than Fallout 3.

Im sure the modding community will make up for Bethesda lack of creative talent in a few months and give me a nice tasty chocolate.

You're not making any sense, VX. Meatballs pwn chocolate any day. I think that just says something about your tastes.

Shit I forgot about the midnight release...owell i have little big planet to keep me happy tonight. but tomorrow for sure.

I can't beleive how many games I have been picking up...

Dead Space ($50)
Fable 2 ($40)
Far Cry 2 ($50)
Little Big Planet ($55)
Saints Row 2 ($30)

Now Fallout 3 ($50) and possible Motorstorm...tho i may skip it for now. Plus it would take away form my goal of not spending a full $60+ since I can't find a deal for it.

All the reviews I've read gave the game a 9+.  This game is starting to look really good.

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Chee Saw


Yeah, I never played the first two.  Therefore I shall enjoy part 3!

Same here.

Yarrr be the Kikizo Verdict arrrrrr

http://games.kikizo.com/reviews/xbox360/fallout-3-p1.asp

I went to the midnight release and Ive played for about 4 hours now. I must say, it is epic win so far. When people said it was Oblivion with guns they were wrong. I hated Oblivion but Im loving this.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Can't wait until its out in Europe.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Edwin


Yarrr be the Kikizo Verdict arrrrrr

http://games.kikizo.com/reviews/xbox360/fallout-3-p1.asp

Nice review .. Going to pick this up asap . oh , on the second page of the review you have the developer and publisher details wrong . It says lionhead and microsoft .

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immortaldanmx


I went to the midnight release and Ive played for about 4 hours now. I must say, it is epic win so far. When people said it was Oblivion with guns they were wrong. I hated Oblivion but Im loving this.

i really hope you're right, i'm skeptical about reviews this time because they enjoyed Oblivion which i disliked like you... may be it is a great game but that is not my taste, so many flaws i couldn't stand.. and please oh pretty please , give me a fantastic story. usually open games mess it up big time in that area.

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QuezcatoL


Can't wait until its out in Europe.

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QuezcatoL


Can't wait until its out in Europe.

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Caps lock is cruise control for awesome.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

fallout 3 is so awesome, i haven't even had time to start the real game (oblivion leaving sewers style) yet and it pwns 1337

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

I played a bit.  I escaped and went into the SuperDuper mart or whatever it's called.  Not much there actually.  The graphics are way better than screenshots suggest.  They must have been from the console versions.  The draw distance and colours are far better than I expected.  It runs very well with my 8800GTX and E8400@3.6Ghz.  Some people complained about crashes but I haven't experienced any. 

When i picked up the game yesterday I forgot to buy the stategy guide.  I like to get them with major titles.  Not so much because I need help I just like having a source that has everything, especially directions for finding items, weapons, armor, characters.  Having a complete world map would be very handy for this game.  Places only show up on your map after you've been there.  The game litterally looks like a waste land.  The view distance is impressive and all I can see is destruction.  So it's difficult to find a specific city. 

I can already tell I'll be dumping more time into this than Fable 2, a lot more time.

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Agent Ghost


I played a bit.  I escaped and went into the SuperDuper mart or whatever it's called.  Not much there actually.  The graphics are way better than screenshots suggest.  They must have been from the console versions.  The draw distance and colours are far better than I expected.  It runs very well with my 8800GTX and E8400@3.6Ghz.  Some people complained about crashes but I haven't experienced any. 

When i picked up the game yesterday I forgot to buy the stategy guide.  I like to get them with major titles.  Not so much because I need help I just like having a source that has everything, especially directions for finding items, weapons, armor, characters.  Having a complete world map would be very handy for this game.  Places only show up on your map after you've been there.  The game litterally looks like a waste land.  The view distance is impressive and all I can see is destruction.  So it's difficult to find a specific city. 

I can already tell I'll be dumping more time into this than Fable 2, a lot more time.

At lvl 20 you can get a perk that will reveal all the locations.

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