WTF is wrong with Canadians?

CNN) -- As horrified travelers watched, a Greyhound Canada bus passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man who was sitting and sleeping beside him, a witness said Thursday.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canada.bus/index.aspx



Maybe the guy was snoring too loudly?

We live right next to the Americans.
Seriously though, I heard about this over the radio... pretty fucked up.

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Yeah that's jacked up. He is lucky I was not riding that bus Someone could  have done something. Knifes are nothing scary in the mother land. Now a spear that is a different story. Sad day really sad day.

mikayd2


Yeah that's jacked up. He is lucky I was not riding that bus Someone could  have done something. Knifes are nothing scary in the mother land. Now a spear that is a different story. Sad day really sad day.

Mikayd is impervious to knives?

they like to drink blood.

they like to drink blood.

Only if it comes from children.

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Only if it comes from children.

...and trees.

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It sounds like everyone just fled instead of helping, someone could have overpowered the guy.

It sounds like everyone just fled instead of helping, someone could have overpowered the guy.

That's what I was thinking, fucking pussies.  It was probably too late though.  The guy was sitting next to his victim and no one knew he had a knife until after the victim was stabbed.  At least they trapped the guy in the bus.

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At least the fucker was dead when the guy cut his head off...

From what I've read, the passengers allowed plenty of time for the victim to be repeatedly stabbed.

The guy may have survived the first two stabs or so, but since they all got out of the bus like pussies instead of helping he had plenty of time to completely butcher the victim and even chop his head off which must have taken some time, going through all the bone and spine with a knife must have taken a few minutes, it isn't easy to do, people act like he took one swing at the guy and chopped his head off, that's not how it was, and thats impossible, even guillotines often fail to do that.

The fact is, they didn't do shit and let him die.  But that's western society for you.  If this was in a 3rd world country the killer would be dead seconds after the attack, they have balls, westerners do not.   Not to say that I wouldn't have done the same, I probably would've just ran as well, because even if you help if you end up hurting the killer who doesn't deserve to live in the first place you can end up in legal trouble yourself, it doesn't pay to be a good samaritan in this society.

You would have ran because the guy had a weapon, you didn't and there was a easy way to get away. You wouldn't be thinking about the legal possibilities.

Why does everyone assume they would turn into a hero in any situation?

The passengers did the right thing by ensuring no one else got hurt. Trapping him was equally effective as overpowering him and far less risky.  Especially considering he was on a bus. Anyone who attempted heroics would have had to do it individually, and it would be impossible to sneak up on the guy.

I've seen beheading videos where they've used machetes and even with a blade like that it takes 5 or 6 big hacks to get through the bone and muscle.

I've never understood these frenzied attacks where they stab the person 50 - 100 times. I mean, the fucker was dead long before that was over and the guy decided to decapitate him, so why stab somebody repeatedly like that? There was a killing in the UK a few months ago where a kid stabbed his grandmother over a 100 times with a screwdriver. That's fucking insane. Just try making a stabbing motion 100 fucking times... it's a rediculous amount.

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Now that would fix things.

because even if you help if you end up hurting the killer who doesn'tdeserve to live in the first place you can end up in legal troubleyourself, it doesn't pay to be a good samaritan in this society.

I agree with you on that. If I was there I would have been one of the first to jump on dude. Although he Probably would have got the frist stab off on his victim. Due to me being lazy and not paying attention of things around me.I don't get how people just ran. And all dude had was a knife come on get real.  I remeber some dude tryed to jack us with a knife. When we were young runining around with out a care in the world. We laughed at dude and walked away. He looked at us like we were nuts I guess he must not know about people from the mother land. Now if he had a spear then I would have gave dude all my money  lol . Cant jack around with them spears if you dont have one of your own to defend with ..

lol why would he have a spear?

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Right.... all he had was a knife...

In that case, anybody who aint a pussy would have fucked the guy up.I'd have taken his knife away from him just like i've seen Steven Segaldo millions of times in movies and i would have beat the fuck to deathwith my shoe. Obviously.

But if he had a spear....

Well fuck me rigid... i'd be out of there so fucking fast...

Just imagine a guy walking into a bus holding a spear and everyone sits away from him.  lol
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It's hard to imagine what you'd do in a fucked up situation like that.  If I saw him after he cut the guys head off, I'd stay away from that fucker, I wouldn't risk a gruesome death just to catch a criminal.  However if I saw the guy pull out a knife before he attacked a potential victim I would try to disarm and kick his ass, especially if I was behind him.  I'd feel good about those odds if I can catch him off guard. In this case it's two (possibly more) against one and I have a good chance of saving a life.  If I didn't do something I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror.
 
There's a lot of psychology behind helping a victim from an attacker when there are many witnesses.  No one wants to face the psychopath with the knife alone, but if there are 10 people who ban together to disarm him the risk becomes acceptable for many.  

Being a good samaritan is only a small piece of the puzzle.

Another thing.  How often do we get to truely kick the crap out of someone and walk away scott free? A person who actually deserves it?  Almost never.  There's nothing better than beating the shit out of someone and having no reason to hold back.  It's almost worth being stabbed for.

Trust me I know. 

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mikayd is crazy

I was just making a point about the guy with the knife. Back in the mother land we used to duel it out with spears. just for sport the older guys would use real spears. But a knife is nothing to be worried about.  That's all I meant yes I am scared of a man with spear very scared.

mikayd2


I was just making a point about the guy with the knife. Back in the mother land we used to duel it out with spears. just for sport the older guys would use real spears. But a knife is nothing to be worried about.  That's all I meant yes I am scared of a man with spear very scared.

On a crowded bus, it would be much easier to defend a spear than a knife. And how is there nothing to fear from a knife? A knife would be faster and you could sneak up on someone unexpected. It would be kinda hard to pull a fucking spear out of your pocket.

True a sneak attack can get anybody but a upfront fight with a knife can be delt with.  I think spears or iilegal in the public. Those things will put and eye out quick. They could have done something on that bus.

This guy is obsessed with spears, wow fucking spears, if someones going to walk around with a spear they might as well walk around with guns.

No way.  Spears are way more cumbersome and far less effective than guns.  Guns kick ass.

Guns kick ass.

I'll be filing for my concealed-carry the day after my 21st birthday. I'd like to think that I would have the means to neutralize a situation like this without putting myself in harm's way.

Handgun or not though, I don't think I could stand by and watch somebody get stabbed. I don't have too many rational fears, but another person in visible sustained pain scares the shit out of me. I don't know why. I can watch war movies all day, and horror movies with death sequences, but movies where there are old-school amputation scenes still make me wince.

I would like to say it would be because it's just, and the right thing to do, but having not been in too many life and death situations, I can't say. In general I tend to have more fight than flight tendencies, but I've always been one to gravitate towards risk taking.

I was just making a point about the guy with the knife. Back in themother land we used to duel it out with spears.

Which country are your ancestors from Mikayd? I'm curious.

My people are from afirca. I can give you the details if you like. We came over about 6  years ago.

It's ok saying that you would have done something if you had been on the bus, but it doesn't work like that in real life. Most of the people probably didn't even see the knife, ...they'll have just seen the blood and heard others screaming. The guy was sitting next to him so unless he stood up before he attacked the guy the knife would have been out of view for most of the occupants. It's also not like you could surround the guy or take him from multiple sides because it's a fucking bus. Nobody in their right mind would have tried taking the guy on bare handed, on a cramped bus, after he'd just stabbed some poor kid 60 fucking times. It's ok saying that somebody could have taken him from behind (hur hur) but if the guy was stronger than you and you couldn't disarm him or pin him, you'd only get hurt yourself and the guy would have had copious amounts of adrenalin running through his veins.

My people are from afirca. I can give you the details if you like. We came over about 6  years ago.

Yeah, I knew that. Which country?

It's ok saying that you would have done something if you had been onthe bus, but it doesn't work like that in real life. Most of the peopleprobably didn't even see the knife, ...they'll have just seen the bloodand heard others screaming. The guy was sitting next to him so unlesshe stood up before he attacked the guy the knife would have been out ofview for most of the occupants. It's also not like you could surroundthe guy or take him from multiple sides because it's a fucking bus.Nobody in their right mind would have tried taking the guy on barehanded, on a cramped bus, after he'd just stabbed some poor kid 60fucking times. It's ok saying that somebody could have taken him frombehind (hur hur) but if the guy was stronger than you and you couldn'tdisarm him or pin him, you'd only get hurt yourself and the guy wouldhave had copious amounts of adrenalin running through his veins.

Gun.

Even with a gun you wouldn't have been able to save the kid's life. He would have been dead in the first couple of seconds. With the panic and confusion; people running to get off the bus as quickly as possible you wouldn't be able to make a clear decision regarding whether or not to shoot the guy.

If you did have a clear shot and could make that judgement then yeah, a gun would have ended the drama and probably saved the dead kid from being beheaded.

There was an attack at a school in Israel where a gun went in with an assault rifle just gunning people down. One of the visitors had a pistol and since everybody has to a stint in the IDF, was able to put two rounds in the guys chest and stop the slaughter.

I don't advocate issuing guns to civilians though. It's something i strongly oppose.