Ok so i' m renting these PS3 games one at a time...

Heavenly Sword
Unreal Tournament 3
Warhawk
MotorStorm
Resistance: Fall of Man

In which order would you rent these games?

Who cares? Just rent them in the order you see them on the shelf.

Motorstorm and Warhawk are the only ones that appeal to me... Unreal is probably fine but not my cup o' tea.

ORIGINAL: Mass X

Heavenly Sword
Unreal Tournament 3
Warhawk
MotorStorm
Resistance: Fall of Man

In which order would you rent these games?

Uncharted, Metal Gear, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Ratchet & Clank... i take it you' re buying those!?

Buying Metal Gear. I forgot to add Uncharted to the list. Ive played enough of Gaiden for now. Ratchet isnt available at the moment

I would just rent Resistance: FOM,

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Yeah Resistance is a good game... It also has a pretty good co-op part

buy uncharted with metal gear. Warhawk and Unreal are really online only so i wouldnt rent them first, go for the single player games, motorstorm, heavenly sword are a good place to start, I never liked Resistance [or Racket for that matter]

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Resistance blows and should be avoided like the plague, but the rest are worth playing.

Heavenly Sword is weak in terms of gameplay but has great art direction and stellar production values. Uncharted is a must have. Easily the best looking console game this gen. Warhawk and UT3 are online games, so like Silent said, they' re not really rentals. UT3 on PS3 is badass though. Not a patch on the PC version, but still 10x better than most console multiplayer games.

MotorStorm is kickass, but the sequel will be out soon enough and to be honest, you should probably start looking at what games are coming up next month... like Soul Calibur IV for example.

Here is my recomendation..

- Heavenly Sword (Rent it when you have 10 hour spare time, short, but 0 replay. Probably my GOTY last year, together with Uncharted. Only game I' ve replayed more than 3 times, on my PS3.)

- Uncharted (Rent it when you can play for two days)

- Resistance: Fall of Man (Super gameplay, aswell as weapons, Rent it when you can play for 3 days)
- Warhawk (Rent it when you have a week or more to play, it' s awesome, or as soon as possible if you got friends coming over, splitscreen play on the net is awesome..)

Personally I didn' t like any of the ones below.

MotorStorm (It' s either a hit or miss, I were sure I were gonna love it, but it were to hard for me. My brother and his friends likes it tough)

Unreal Tournament 3 (Didn' t like this at all, solid shooter, but no storyline, and I don' t know anyone else who got it)

So you think Resistance had " Super Gameplay" , but dont like UTIII, and you think Heavenly Sword was GOTY for 07? Your opinions are henceforth invalid.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Resistance is to PS3 as Perfect Dark Zero is to Xbox 360?

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

That' s a good analogy. Everyone expected these early titles to be good but they fell flat on their face. I think PDZ is better than Resistance though.

SC4 is out next month? I dunno if I will get it, its become of joke of a series... online play i assume?

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

SC4

SC4? I didnt realize it was so close to release. Then again, I never cared about any except number 1.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

So you think Resistance had " Super Gameplay" , but dont like UTIII, and you think Heavenly Sword was GOTY for 07? Your opinions are henceforth invalid.

So only bungholes like yourself are allowed to have opinions now? I didn' t see that mentioned in the thread before I started responding. :-/

Resistance had everything I wanted, interesting story, good weapons, fast gameplay, and most important of all, it had me sitting infront of the TV having fun and playing for a long time.
Unreal had nice graphics, it had good gameplay, but there were no story, only different multiplayer maps, with the same modes over and over again stringed together as a tournament.
It quickly killed all my interest in the game, and when I were bored of doing the same all over again for no purpose at all, I stopped playing it, 3 hours into the game.

You do the math, wich game suits me best. :-/

Heavenly Sword is amazing, only MGS4, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are games wich comes close enough to deliver the type of enjoyment I want in my videogames, after it' s own realease. :-/
It got alot of bad press due to length, but almost noone say it' s a bad game.
I had alot of fun with it, and several of my friends aswell.
It' s like a asian Kung-fu flick, only you control the awesome fighting. :)

I' ve bought and given all the titles mentioned a fair attempt, and I gave my impressions of them, aswell as how much time I think he should expect to use with them. :-/
It dosn' t mean I' m right, but it dosn' t mean I' m wrong either.
It' s just my opinion.

Do you have anything worthwile to contribute to the thread, or are you just a person here to judge everyones opinions? :)

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

Unreal had nice graphics, it had good gameplay, but there were no story, only different multiplayer maps, with the same modes over and over again stringed together as a tournament.

It quickly killed all my interest in the game, and when I were bored of doing the same all over again for no purpose at all, I stopped playing it, 3 hours into the game.

You do the math, wich game suits me best. :-/

If you bought an UNREAL TOURNAMENT game and expected anything other than what you got... you' re a fucking clown. Maybe next time you should spend a couple of minutes just thinking about what it is you' re after and whether X game is likely to deliver it.

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

Heavenly Sword is amazing...

It got alot of bad press due to length, but almost noone say it' s a bad game.
I had alot of fun with it, and several of my friends aswell.
It' s like a asian Kung-fu flick, only you control the awesome fighting. :)

Yeah, but the fighting is the weakest part of the game. It has amazing production values, the voice work, art direction, character design and modelling and level design are all superb... but the combat is dull and unsatisfying. I' m not asking for DMC-esque depth, but if the combat in the God of War games is more solid... you know somthing' s wrong.

Have you stopped to wonder why they' re now not doing the previously planned sequel!?

It quickly killed all my interest in the game, and when I were bored of doing the same all over again for no purpose at all, I stopped playing it, 3 hours into the game.

Did you try the PC version/will you be trying the 360 version?

If you bought an UNREAL TOURNAMENT game and expected anything other than what you got... you' re a fucking clown. Maybe next time you should spend a couple of minutes just thinking about what it is you' re after and whether X game is likely to deliver it.

I expected to get a decent shooter, wich I could have fun playing, it looked gcool on gameplay-clips. I ordered it, and received it when it were released a while after. It were a solid shooter, but no fun for me, and I had better

Yeah, but the fighting is the weakest part of the game. It has amazing production values, the voice work, art direction, character design and modelling and level design are all superb... but the combat is dull and unsatisfying. I' m not asking for DMC-esque depth, but if the combat in the God of War games is more solid... you know somthing' s wrong.

Have you stopped to wonder why they' re now not doing the previously planned sequel!?

I don' t think you' ve played this game, did you try the demo?

I really liked the fighting engine there, the counter-attack and 3 differfent stance' s were a refreshing new take on a genre wich only have been open for button-mashing or insane button-combo-combinations previously. :-/

Sure you could also learn those normal button-fight-game combos, similar to NG and DMC, and yes, you had to learn some combos to use on certain bosses.

But I had most fun with building up the superstyle moves, countering (It' s more like how swordfighters fence in reallife, watch what the opponent are doing and react accordingly), and the slow-motion six-axis control with projectiles and bodies, were a blast, didn' t learn sixaxis until I were on the bridge with Kai tough.

I like HS-fight-engine better than GoW, DMC and NG, even tough most others dont.

Why there isn' t a sequel I assume has more to do with the fact that Ninja Theory turned down the opportunity to do it, when Sony asked them to.
HS2 never were announced, and if Cambridge Studio really were starting to produce it, without Ninja Theory.
I think that if that' s the case, it' s because of Sony wants to avoid Home beeing even more delayed, and moved over one of their best teams.
Not that HS2 would not meet it' s sales-expectations. :-/

I' m pretty confident we' ll see more games set in HS universe, sooner or later.

But I' m not expecting anything big new announcements from British studios, until after they' ve put out Home.
I assume that LBP, 2 x Buzz, Wipeout HD, are all OK.
So I guess that Sony put in alot of extra manpower on Home, even tough London studios are pretty big, during the british cancellation-wave rumour.
Just to make sure it dosn' t get delayed anymore.

If I had been in charge, I' d call Cory Barlog and say; that GoW3-game is cancelled, you guys gonna make ' Kai' s story' a episodic downloadable PSN franchise immediately. :-P hehe.. . :-/

I don' t think you' ve played this game, did you try the demo?

Dude, that guy plays all the games

In any case, I agree with him. Heavenly Sword' s combat is shallow. God of War' s is shallow, and HS wasn' t up there. If Heavenly Sword had the depth of Ninja Gaiden (which has the most depth out of all games in that genre) then it would have been a fantastic game, not just a time filler, which it was unfortunately.

Sure you could also learn those normal button-fight-game combos, similar to NG and DMC, and yes, you had to learn some combos to use on certain bosses.

While you definitely can make your way through DMC by button mashing, is obvious you haven' t played Ninja Gaiden if you say the same applies. You would not make it out of the first level in Ninja Gaiden by button mashing. DMC and Heavenly Sword are no different in that regard. You could plow your way through Heavenly Sword just by button mashing (minus Kye' s or however you spell her name levels) But there is a difference in between mashing and playing the game well.

If I had been in charge, I' d call Cory Barlog and say; that GoW3-game is cancelled, you guys gonna make ' Kai' s story' a episodic downloadable PSN franchise immediately. :-P hehe.. . :-/

WTF did you just say?

Did you try the PC version/will you be trying the 360 version?

I still have the game, so the plan is to try out some community-mods sooner or later.. :-) And no, double dipping before I start liking the game is not an option..

Dude, that guy plays all the games? :D

Well, if he does, he should not complain tell me that I have to be more carefull over wich games, I spend my dimes on. :)

In any case, I agree with him. Heavenly Sword' s combat is shallow. God of War' s is shallow, and HS wasn' t up there. If Heavenly Sword had the depth of Ninja Gaiden (which has the most depth out of all games in that genre) then it would have been a fantastic game, not just a time filler, which it was unfortunately.

What so shallow about it?
And what makes NG so deep? Is it the jump button?

WTF did you just say?

It' s not something wich would make sense financially for Sony, but it' d make sense for me purely selfishly...

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

Dude, that guy plays all the games? :D

Well, if he does, he should not complain tell me that I have to be more carefull over wich games, I spend my dimes on. :)

We' ve already been over this once

What so shallow about it?
And what makes NG so deep? Is it the jump button?

Well, for one, you said Heavenly Sword gives you something fresh by allowing you to switch styles (which actually, that was use by Devil May Cry 3 first, and each style actually gave you different abilities, as opposed to different weapons, as the Heavenly Sword styles really are) That said, Heavenly Sword " Styles" amount to 3 weapons (Two swords with all-around qualities, two chained swords {Now where have we seen this before I wonder?} and one heaby sword). Ninja Gaiden Sigma has 13 (Dragon Sword, Nunchaku, Viggorian Flail, Dabilahro, Warhammer, Tigger Fangs and Dragon Claws, Lunar, Wooden Sword, Unlabored Flawness, Kitetsu, Dark Dragon Sword and Plasma Saber) If we take the ones that could be considered " Clones" , that still leaves 8 weapons.

Heavenly Sword= 3 weapons, with less than 30 combos (at least the heavy and ranged stances, I know the regular had more, but I think no more than 30) a Aerial Stance (that while cool looking, can' t be considered anything other than a gimmick) counter attacks, a non-intuitive way of blocking, dodgy evasion mechanics and the ability to throw your opponents or items at certain times.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma= 8 weapons, each with at least 25 combos (each with varying degrees of speeds and strengths) ultimate techniques, a superb blocking and dodging mechanic, acrobatics, water running and fighting, counter attacks and ranged weapons which can be used both on the ground and mid-air.

You do the math.

OK!
If NG Sigma has 13 weapons, and each got 25 different comboes, the fight-system might be much deeper, when you found everything.

I' ve not played much of NGS, only abit on the demo.
The running and jumping on wall were cool in NGS, I liked that, the times I managed it.
But then I got annoyed when I missed the jumps and had to try over again, with the enemies I just killed popping back out of the doors to make sure I don' t get to try again to quickly. :-/
I felt like I had to kill a enemy 5 times there, each time before I got to try a new jump-hurdle. And extra annoying if they had a white ninja-outfit on, and therefore were much life than if they had a grey ninja-outfit on. :-/

I gave it up after allmost 2 hours into the demo, when I fell back somewhere, and gave up after I had tried the same jump like 5 times, and the same people I had killed a few times before popped out of the same doors, and realized the game designers just stuffed the game with same content, just to make sure I shouldn' t complete it.

When I actually fought, I never were able to make that much cool shit happen, even tough I tried different things, to weigh up for the things I disliked.
But if it' s like you say it is, it' s probably much awesome fighitng in NGS compared to HS, if you know how to play. :)

I' ll not buy NGS, since I know what to expect from it. I' ll be carefull where to spend my dimes, as immortal adviced me earlier. :)

I found HS much more fun anyway, even if it' s got a so-called shallow fighting-system, I managed to control alot more there by doing superstyle-moves, ranged weaponry stances and countering, aswell as learning those few comboes, wich made me have fun all the time playing it.

I never got around to that in NGS, and won' t bother learning it.

So let' s just conclude that, I did something wrong when I had fun with Heavenly Sword, or there were something wrong with my PS3.
OP should never rent Heavenly Sword, he should never try that, and just stick with Ninja Gaiden Sigma, DMC3, and God of War 2, those amazing games, and ignore the Heavenly Sword flop wich only people like myself like. :)
Then everyone is happy. :)

I just tried to give OP my opinion, on the games he actually asked about, based on my own experiences. :)

Hey, I am not bashing your opinion. Tastes are tastes and that' s cool, the point in games is to have fun. I found Rule of Rose a superb experience, even though its a broken down piece of shit.

If Heavenly Sword was game of the year for you, that' s fine, is your opinion, I respect that and I am not attacking it. Is just that when talking about things, we also need to be objective. Ninja Gaiden is a technically more proficient game than Heavenly Sword, that' s a fact. If we talk about other aspects, such as characters, music and presentation in general, then that' s a completely different thing, Heavenly Sword is superior.

Don' t be angry man, you can like Heavenly Sword as much as you like, that' s fine with me You don' t have to change what you think, just because we think differently. That' s what being an individual is all about.

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

OK!
If NG Sigma has 13 weapons, and each got 25 different comboes, the fight-system might be much deeper, when you found everything.

I' ve not played much of NGS, only abit on the demo.
The running and jumping on wall were cool in NGS, I liked that, the times I managed it.
But then I got annoyed when I missed the jumps and had to try over again, with the enemies I just killed popping back out of the doors to make sure I don' t get to try again to quickly. :-/
I felt like I had to kill a enemy 5 times there, each time before I got to try a new jump-hurdle. And extra annoying if they had a white ninja-outfit on, and therefore were much life than if they had a grey ninja-outfit on. :-/

I gave it up after allmost 2 hours into the demo, when I fell back somewhere, and gave up after I had tried the same jump like 5 times, and the same people I had killed a few times before popped out of the same doors, and realized the game designers just stuffed the game with same content, just to make sure I shouldn' t complete it.

When I actually fought, I never were able to make that much cool shit happen, even tough I tried different things, to weigh up for the things I disliked.
But if it' s like you say it is, it' s probably much awesome fighitng in NGS compared to HS, if you know how to play. :)

So it' s not that Heavenly Swords combat has tons of depth at all, ...it' s that you find it accessible.

If you struggle with games like NG and DMC then yeah, i can see how somebody might prefer God of War and even Heavenly Sword... but that doesn' t mean you should then just blindly defend them. Heavenly Sword and God of War have weak combat systems. They' re easy to play and the moves look fantastic, but compared to DMC and NG they' re really weak.

The thing about God of War and to a lesser extent Heavenly Sword is that they have this fucking amazing art direction. God of War II is one of my favourite games of all time. But i appreciate what' s there, praise the game for it' s strengths and criticize it for it' s weaknesses.

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

I' ll not buy NGS, since I know what to expect from it. I' ll be carefull where to spend my dimes, as immortal adviced me earlier. :)

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

So let' s just conclude that, I did something wrong when I had fun with Heavenly Sword, or there were something wrong with my PS3.
OP should never rent Heavenly Sword, he should never try that, and just stick with Ninja Gaiden Sigma, DMC3, and God of War 2, those amazing games, and ignore the Heavenly Sword flop wich only people like myself like. :)
Then everyone is happy. :)

Cry much?

I' ll not buy NGS, since I know what to expect from it. I' ll be carefull where to spend my dimes, as immortal adviced me earlie

What? I never advised you on what to spend your money on. I just said your opinion was invalid.

, he should never try that, and just stick with Ninja Gaiden Sigma, DMC3, and God of War 2, those amazing games, and ignore the Heavenly Sword flop wich only people like myself like

Yeah, pretty much.

While we' re on the topic of mediocre games....
Nitro, Silent, and anyone else owns a PSP and can conjugate a sentence, my PSP will be here today, I ordered:
GoW Chains of Olympus
Ratchet and Clank Size Matters
Killzone Liberation.

What else would you guys recommend?

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

ORIGINAL: immortaldanmx

While we' re on the topic of mediocre games....
Nitro, Silent, and anyone else owns a PSP and can conjugate a sentence, my PSP will be here today, I ordered:
GoW Chains of Olympus
Ratchet and Clank Size Matters
Killzone Liberation.

What else would you guys recommend?

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Syphon Filter: Logan' s Shadow (sequel)
WipEout Pure
WipEout Pulse (sequel)
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Tekken: Dark Resurrection
Ridge Racer
Ridge Racer 2
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Jeanne d' Arc
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Lumines II
Daxter
LocoRoco
Papaton
Crush
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Burnout Legends
Burnout Dominator (sequel)
Virtua Tennis World Tour
SSX On Tour
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
The Warriors
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 2
Every Extend Extra
Gradius Collection
Silent Hill Origins
Twisted Metal: Head-On

I just picked up Crisis Core the other day, and so far I am liking it a lot. The combat took a while to get used to, but once I did get used to it the combat is very accessible.

I' ve seen Jeanne d' Arc every time I go to my EB Games, and have been tempted to pick it up. Is it really worth the buy?

Most wanted games:

Mass Effect
Assasins Creed
Crysis
Little Big Planet
Drakes Fortune
UTIII
Kane and Lynch
Heavy Rain
Alan Wake

What? I never advised you on what to spend your money on. I just said your opinion was invalid.

I mistook Nitro' s message for yours.. :-/

Anyway, on PSP, of the ones wich isn' t mentioned allready, I liked the Hot Shots Golf games, and Tales of Eternia, so that' s an invalid opinion of good games. :-)

Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics
Syphon Filter Dark Mirror and Logan' s Shadow
Silent Hill Origins
LocoRoco
Patapon
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops
Metal Gear Ac!d and Ac!d 2

ORIGINAL: Nitro

ORIGINAL: immortaldanmx

What else would you guys recommend?

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Syphon Filter: Logan' s Shadow (sequel)
WipEout Pure
WipEout Pulse (sequel)
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Tekken: Dark Resurrection
Ridge Racer
Ridge Racer 2
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Jeanne d' Arc
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Lumines II
Daxter
LocoRoco
Papaton
Crush
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Burnout Legends
Burnout Dominator (sequel)
Virtua Tennis World Tour
SSX On Tour
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
The Warriors
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 2
Every Extend Extra
Gradius Collection
Silent Hill Origins
Twisted Metal: Head-On

Dude, you' re like Sharon Osbourne in the Asda advert where she picks up about 300 quids worth of games, pats her back pocket and says " That should keep the kids entertained for a couple of weeks"

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