Ok, Saints Row 2 actually looks good.

http://www.thq-games.com/uk/thqtv/index/1516

http://www.thq-games.com/uk/thqtv/index/1516

I think my shelves have room for both GTA4 and SR2.

I wish I could get into those sandbox type games. Just not for me. I spent some quality time with the first Saint' s Row, and it was pretty tight, but it only held my interest for about four or so hours. Same thing with GTA 3.

The first one wasn' t bad. Buggy as hell, but not a bad game. The gameplay mechanics are there - it just lacks a decent storyline and characters.

I' ll be picking the sequel up. It' s not out until the end of the year so i' ll be finished with GTA IV by then.

as long as you didn' t take it too seriously the first was quite fun.

The second is looking reasonable, as long as they sort out some of the bugginess. I' ll be picking this up too at some point, probably a xmas purchase for me.

I just finished GTAIV yesterday, it has room for improvement on some of the more annoying gameplay aspects. Controls should be brushed up some, Gears of War like gun control would be good, also fist combat is annoying.

The most annoying aspect is that i cant save when ever i wont or that there arent check points mid mission.

Also its stupid that the missions are scripted, in the final mission i fired a rocket at the bad guys speedboat, direct hit, nothing happened since the script hadnt finished running.

Same thing with other missions through out the game.

I loved how they made fun of GTA.
Although im not a fan of the game and hasnt played the first this got me sold!