No Wii for Epic: " We Go Forward, Not Back"

Epic Games’ president, Mike Capps, reiterated what Epic has previously said in an interview with IGN, stating that Epic won’t ever be developing games for the Wii. It’s not about the success of the platform to him, but what can be done on it. When asked whether there would ever be a time when Epic would be forced to give in and create a game for the Wii, Capps said, “no, we go forward, not back. It makes more sense for us to invest in the next-generation tech.”

As for why he believes the Wii has become so popular, he says it’s like a virus that just keeps spreading:

It’s a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they’re like, “Oh my God that’s so cool, I’m gonna go buy it.” So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they’ve showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. Obviously there’s a class of people who really love it and enjoy it and are getting into the games but I’m still waiting for that one game that makes me play it.

Some in our forums have shared a similar sentiment regarding games for the Wii (at least this year), but others are very excited about the upcoming games for the system. It seems that in many cases it may just be personal taste.

Capps also talks about everything from Gears of War 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, and Unreal Tournament III to the comics, paying for weapons, and Wii Fit, so if you want to hear more of what he has to say make sure to read the rest of the interview.

Well damn. I had my hopes up for UT ThWii too.

t’s a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they’re like, “Oh my God that’s so cool, I’m gonna go buy it.” So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they’ve showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on.

my god thats exactly what it is!

ITs not a Virus, it' s a Trend and no Games system would ever Be popular without being Trendy, 360, Ps3 included


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Epic Games’ president, Mike Capps, reiterated what Epic has previously said in an interview with IGN, stating that Epic won’t ever be developing games for the Wii. It’s not about the success of the platform to him, but what can be done on it.

OR what you cant do with it, isnt that right Epic

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OR what you cant do with it

Yeah, too many limitations!

Yeah, too many limitations!

Yes, that why they never made game for the last Nintendo system either!!

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Yes, that why they never made game for the last Nintendo system either!!

whats your point? they didnt make a ps2 game either!

<3 Epic' s PR.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

The wii is the worst console ever to grace these 15 years, crap after crap after crap being releasd on the system with no end on sight, my thought exactly, i' ve been an infected victime, now it' s sitting on the desk, rarely being played.

i don' t play 95% of its games even if its free for me, let alone paying any money for that bullshit, wii mama , wii cook, tennis poo, WTF ? PS2 has its load of crap games but it had a stellar library of high quality games. the wii is now a target for easy money and that' s all there is, much like the cell phone market , a load of bad games and it sells... this has been forseen in a sort of way but not that extent, and i fucking hate nintendo for getting away with it, that time in which developers invest could be used to polish other games on the 360/ps3, we could see a total focus without any disturbance.

i' m also surprised and thank god that developers didn' t put their flagship titles to the most sold console, that would be a disaster and a true stepback to the industry, the control alone DOES NOT make it.

Listen to the wise

I played the GameCube way more than I played the Wii during the same time frame. Most of the games I play on the Wii are the Virtual Console games.

Kinda funny how during the course of the last generation the original Xbox was by far my least played console followed by the DS... I played tons of PS2, GameCube, and PSP..

This generation the Xbox 360 has gotten more playtime than the PS3 and Wii combined. Also I' ve been playing the DS alot, moreso than the PSP -- ever since getting the DS lite.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

While my 360 has gotten a lot of playtime, the console I' ve used the most is definitely the original Xbox. Once you mod it, it' s godly.

360 can do all of that with winamp remote. Provided you have it networked with your PC of course.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

The wii is the worst console ever to grace these 15 years, crap after crap after crap being releasd on the system with no end on sight, my thought exactly, i' ve been an infected victime, now it' s sitting on the desk, rarely being played.

God it' s fast becoming the opposite For Me.. Wii is an exciting platfform, the best ive ownt since Dreamcast.. Way more exciting than Ps3/360 IMO, most 360\ ps3 games bore me, i know what to expect before i even play them.. And for technical Woo' s, forget it... After owning Crysis it frankly says goodbye to any immersible technical heights 360/ps3 can never achieve so i mainly look for fresh game mechanics to feed my gaming interests..

i' m also surprised and thank god that developers didn' t put their flagship titles to the most sold console, that would be a disaster and a true stepback to the industry, the control alone DOES NOT make it.

I wouldnt call Bringing in millions of new gamers with a new control scheme and no HD graphics a ' step back' , thats a silly thing to say. We were all new /casual gamers once. And its ' not' just about putting flagship games on a system, its about creating games that cater for that system or taking full advantage of it (in terms of it' s features, control and/or Power)..

Pro Evo 8 Wii is fast becoming my fave and truely best experiences ive had from this generation, easily. With SMG its the only game where i feel the core game mechanics has been raised to new hieghts. Funny how thats one of the only Big 3rd party franchises that was made from ground up for the wii


Anyone read that whole Interview BTW? He didnt like Ninja gaiden Because it' s Too Hard? Probably won' t buy GTA4 becuase it' ll be Too Big? Really.. PR people ...

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You make a real good argument there....

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

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360 can do all of that with winamp remote. Provided you have it networked with your PC of course.

It can' t do homebrew. Homebrew > all.

yeah i forgot about the homebrew and emulators

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Way more exciting than Ps3/360 IMO, most 360\ ps3 games bore me, i know what to expect before i even play them..

You didn' t know what to expect from Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart, or Metroid? They are all essentially the same as the games that preceded them.

And for technical Woo' s, forget it... After owning Crysis it frankly says goodbye to any immersible technical heights 360/ps3 can never achieve so i mainly look for fresh game mechanics to feed my gaming interests..

So a single game means no other games can be impressive eh? A single FPS means that games like Warhawk, LittleBigPlanet!, Gran Turismo, Motorstorm, Halo3(replay theatre) GTA4 + many many more cannot be technically impressive?

For as many new and exciting games/idea' s that the Wii offers, the ps3 and 360 offer as many or more, with better graphics and far superior online features.

For as many new and exciting games/idea' s that the Wii offers, the ps3 and 360 offer as many or more, with better graphics and far superior online features.

it is a lost cause!

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Yes, that why they never made game for the last Nintendo system either!!

whats your point? they didnt make a ps2 game either!

No, they just had Digital Extremes port one.

In fact, the only console game Epic touched themselves last gen was Unreal Championship II for Xbox. The rest were outsourced.

However, since Epic and Digital Extremes co-developed all of the Unreal games (console and PC) except UTIII... you could argue that Epic had just as much to do with the PS2 and Dreamcast ports as Digital did.

No, they just had Digital Extremes port one.

oh yeah UT was so early in PS2 lifespan i forgot about it

360 can do all of that with winamp remote. Provided you have it networked with your PC of course.

I' m in love with Winamp Remote. I want it to have my children someday.

It does have an issue I' m currently trying to work through. I can get about half an hour through any video, and then I' ll get some extreme slowdown, combined with the audio dropping out of sync, and the audio itself getting deeper (I' d never heard that on digital, I' m used to things just skipping). I don' t know if it' s a buffer issue, or what, because all the source material is just fine playing on my PC.

I primarily use it for music though, so it' s not that big of a deal in the first place.

It can' t do homebrew. Homebrew > all.

Homebrew > All on a PC.

The Xbox is nice for emu stuff, but I prefer a PC. It' s only going to take so much time before last gen gets some seriously solid emulators, and there' s no way you' re running that on custom Xbox firmware.

So a single game means no other games can be impressive eh? A single FPS means that games like Warhawk, LittleBigPlanet!, Gran Turismo, Motorstorm, Halo3(replay theatre) GTA4 + many many more cannot be technically impressive?

For as many new and exciting games/idea' s that the Wii offers, the ps3 and 360 offer as many or more, with better graphics and far superior online features.

Don' t waste your breath Dagashi.

Most wanted games:

Mass Effect
Assasins Creed
Crysis
Little Big Planet
Drakes Fortune
UTIII
Kane and Lynch
Heavy Rain
Alan Wake

The Xbox is nice for emu stuff, but I prefer a PC. It' s only going to take so much time before last gen gets some seriously solid emulators, and there' s no way you' re running that on custom Xbox firmware.

I used to play Emu stuff off My Xbox (before that, even on my DC).. suprised how many great emu' s there was for the thing and how good they ran.. But your right Compared with PC and it' s software its little more than a novelty. Emu on a whole is a novelty i suppose.

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Tjenare!

Long time since I last posted (not that anybody cares)

I just wanted to point out that the Wii is probably going to be the best console for Indie Game developers (not that anybody cares, ' cept me).

Also, speaking for myself, I think the Wii def isn' t a step back in games (technology isn' t all there is to games) however I do think that MANY games (both from Nintendo and third party developers) haven' t been all too willing to spend money on actually designing games that use the Wii' s controller in other than " gimmicky" ways.
This could be to many reasons, perhaps because the console (liek the Playstation at its time) has caught the attention of a broader audience, that likes simplier (stupider) games, games than the often refered as " hardcore" gamer audience.
Another possible reason might be that the controlelr is fairly new, and it took the gaming industry fairly long before creating the " ultimate" FPS controller scheme. So perhaps we should give the industry some time to get a hang of the dildomote?

Still, even though the Wii clearly has a technical disadvantage in terms of performance and an unfamiliar controller to design for, I think the problem of " lacking" game design is something that even the Ps3 and 360 games suffer from. I was seriously dissapointed when hearing Epic' s teaser speach regarding Gears2. All the presentation focused on was how " improved" the lightning effects where and how much blood there would be in the game.

Also, on a personal note. I have as many games on the Wii that I' ve found enjoyable, as I do on the 360.

Oh, and the Ps3 we shouldn' t even speak about.

Long time since I last posted (not that anybody cares)

Actually i saw your name and thought hey i havent seen that in a while! but i hadnt noticed you were gone though :P welcome back, stay awhile...... stay forever hahahahahahahahaha

Emu on a whole is a novelty i suppose.

It' s a convenience. I like the idea of having a bunch of vintage consoles, but I don' t want to have them all hooked up, and store all the media, especially with bulkier cartridge based systems.

It' s already well established that VF5 is a moron, why argue with him.

I' m sure he was blown away by mario party 28 and mario kart 64 wii version.

It' s a convenience. I like the idea of having a bunch of vintage consoles, but I don' t want to have them all hooked up, and store all the media, especially with bulkier cartridge based systems.

Tell me about it I wish there was a Device that played every retro Games Media in one Box.

Wouldnt be Suprised if you' d have had a go at that already, being such a keen Modder

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