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PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 10, 2008 19:22
Saw this posted on teamxbox, has anyone seen or heard of a ps3 near them of suffering from this? Not getting into any fanboy mud-throwing, I' ll be getting a ps3 at some time in the near future and want to know if this is a major problem.


http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/16181/Rumor-PlayStation-3-Error-80010514-Spreading-Widely/
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 10, 2008 20:59
I had mine for over a year and ahalf and never had one problem. No lock ups or anything like that.

I not sure where they are getting that from. I' m not saying that they dont have issues but you dont stand a big chance to have one break on you. Its like 1 out of ten that break.

I will tell you that it does get dusty and I mean very dusty.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:00
I think my PS3 has frozen on me like once. And that was playing Assassin' s Creed, which had freezing problems on the PS3.

I am sure there are malfunctioning PS3' a out there, but I find it a little unreliable coming from an Xbox fansite.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:01
Teamxbox isnt a ' fan' site ...

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:11
Well, I have seen the news on other sites now, so maybe there is more to this than just rumors.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:16
I don' t think that this is going to turn out to be as widespread as some of the media are making it out to be.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:25

Its like 1 out of ten that break.


1 in 10 is huge! Heh, I' m sure you meant 1 in 100,000 or something.

I dont think the issue is anywhere near as big as 360s, even though I' m lucky enough to still be on my first box.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:41

I dont think the issue is anywhere near as big as 360s, even though I' m lucky enough to still be on my first box.


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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:48


ORIGINAL: canadagamer


I dont think the issue is anywhere near as big as 360s, even though I' m lucky enough to still be on my first box.


WTF? Voodoo Magic?

Has anyone ever heard a tale called " repair at Microsoft" ? Im on my first Xbox 360 but mine has had the RRoD once already.
On a side note i heard that once the PS3s cooling fan breaks it cant get repaired. Is this true?
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:57

Has anyone ever heard a tale called " repair at Microsoft" ?


This is my first and unrepaired box! Its been fine since I got it March ' 06. Its a German box from a second hand import store.

Hearing tales on the forum and my friends' though, I' m inclined to believe it is voodoo.

I' m sure Eddie will find a way to repair PS3 broken fans Sarge. Maybe with a towel or something.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 02:59


ORIGINAL: choupolo


Has anyone ever heard a tale called " repair at Microsoft" ?


Well, this is my first and unrepaired box! Its been fine since I got it March ' 06. Its a German box from a second hand import store.

Hearing tales on the forum and my friends' though, I' m inclined to believe it is voodoo.

I' m sure Eddie will find a way to repair PS3 broken fans Sarge. Maybe with a towel or something.

I didnt know Germany used voodoo. By the way how do you know the xbox hasnt been repaired if you got it from a second hand shop in Germany?
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 03:06
Oh, I meant its a second hand shop in the UK that sells mostly second hand games but new import hardware as well. I guess you' ve got a point though, I dont know where exactly they got it from.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 03:12


ORIGINAL: choupolo

Oh, I meant its a second hand shop in the UK that sells mostly second hand games but new import hardware as well. I guess you' ve got a point though, I dont know where exactly they got it from.

That clears things up. Thanks for info.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 03:42

I dont know where exactly they got it from.


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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 05:12

Teamxbox isnt a ' fan' site ...


Well the article writer is at least a bit of a knob -


" Now, the PlayStation 3, which shipped a year after the Xbox 360, may be the next system to experience a systemic hardware failure."

The fact that it shipped a year later has nothing to do with the article they are writing about, not to mention that it' s common knowledge.

However, it does allude to a common excuse that I get from 360 fanboys when defending the failure rate of their beloved console. They often mention that it shipped a year earlier than Sony or Nintendo, and that it was a trade off to have an early start with better games, and take the risk of poor hardware.


As for the original post, I have never had these problems, nor have any of my friends with ps3' s. My ps3 makes my 360 look like a piece of shit in every aspect except in games. From build quality, speed of operation, media capabilities to how quiet and easy to use it is. That said, I use it about 1/10th as much as I use my xbox, and that' s including the time I spend watching Blu Rays on it.


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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 05:23

My ps3 makes my 360 look like a piece of shit in every aspect except in games


What else would you expect from a gaming console? No matter, this will soon change with the lineup of games coming to the PS3 this year.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 07:59
I have three minor problems with my PS3:

#1 - A game will freeze requiring a system reboot. This is pretty rare and happens more on my Xbox360 (which is still not very often).

#2 - Sometimes the sound will be messed up, as if there is a layer of high-pitched metallic static in the sound. Sound still plays, but it sounds very odd. This affects both DTS and Dolby Digital. A system reboot cures the problem. Sounds are going out the optical TOSlink connector. This happens more often than game freezes, but still has only happened 3 or 4 times since I purchased the PS3 in December.

#3 - Sometimes the HDMI video will drop out, usually during a game transition (not during actual play). My TV doesn' t see any incoming info as the TV' s menu system pops up. A second or two later, the video returns and all is fine. This has happened maybe three times.

I haven' t had any of these issues in Blu-ray movies, only games.

Are these things happening to anyone else?
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 08:10
You' re really an idiot if you think there' s any mass-market electronic that doesn' t " Fail" .

This thread is about a hopeless xbox fanboy faggot who wants to compare xbox 360' s 95% failure rate, to ps3' s 5%

Should a PS3 break you can rest assured sont wont send you back 4 bad ps3' s in a row like MS does with 360.

Microsofot & Xbox360 are garbage, get over it and accept PS3' s superiority.

Thank you.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 09:18


On a side note i heard that once the PS3s cooling fan breaks it cant get repaired. Is this true
I' m sure Eddie will find a way to repair PS3 broken fans Sarge. Maybe with a towel or something.

Anything can be repaired Sarge.

The Playstation 3 uses a proprietary cooling fan (yes, that' s fan in the singular). When I opened up one roughly a year ago it was about seven inches across, and looks exactly like...



That.

It' s totally fixable. You just can' t buy it at your local Radio-Shack, and wouldn' t be able to repair it unless you' ve got a background in console modding, or serious PC cooling. Oh, did I mention? Their cooling system is orgasmic. Microsoft and Nintendo both could take leaves out of Sony' s book.


PS3 Hardware failing

...Erm.... no.

Did I mention " no" ?


Now, that' s the simple answer, those with no hardware expertise or interest can skip the next paragraph.

To be totally honest, this isn' t a hardware problem at all, and it effects a very very small number of PS3s, at least in comparison to the community at large. Comparing it to the Xbox 360' s red ring of death is nothing but sensationalism at it' s best.

The 80010514 error, which most are mistaking for a drive flaw, is actually a bad sector on their hard-drive or incorrectly installed firmware (commonly a combination of the two). What people commonly overlook is that movies, and (if you' re on a backwards-compatible PS3) PS2 and PS1 games should all still work fine with the 80010514 in place.

Everyone' s a critic in the industry, but very few actually have the knowhow to properly critique " hardware" flaws such as this. The fools who are pinning this on Blu-Ray don' t have a clue.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 11:12


#3 - Sometimes the HDMI video will drop out, usually during a game transition (not during actual play). My TV doesn' t see any incoming info as the TV' s menu system pops up. A second or two later, the video returns and all is fine. This has happened maybe three times.


I have had this happen at least 6 or 7 times, most commonly when playing NHL 2k7. Not sure why it does it, but it does. The only way for me to fix it is to grab my TV remote and switch away from HDMI 1 and then back to it. Only once has it refused to display again after doing that, and I was forced to reboot.



#2 - Sometimes the sound will be messed up..................


I' ve had it happen twice so far, once in Warhawk, the other time in Oblivion.


#1 - A game will freeze requiring a system reboot. This is pretty rare and happens more on my Xbox360 (which is still not very often).


As with every system, I' ve had this happen(Warhawk did it a ton in Beta, but that wasn' t the ps3' s fault). Luckily, never during Oblivion, but it' s happened a couple times on NHL(I think it was a faulty save file thoigh), and a couple times on other games. Just like you said though, I' ve had at least twice as many freeze ups on my Xbox, which I' ve had half as long. Still though, neither freeze up more than any of my past consoles(ps2 froze more for me than any console I' ve ever had).

EDIT TO ADD -

BTW Dagashi, Flames played a great game against the Sharks!!!!!!!


Hell yeah! The goal when Iggy knocked the net off was so close. I missed a bit of the first(damn you work!), but I got to watch the rest. Watching them sing the anthem for game 2 as we speak. GO FLAMES GO!

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 12:20
I' ve had several original Nintendo' s fail on me.

My first Dreamcast died (I think it was the power supply, but by that time it was when they were pretty cheep so instead of sending it in to get repaired for $50 I just bought the arcade bundle for $100.

My Xbox 1' s power supply died a few days before 360 came out.

My 360 red red ringed once. It was fine for over a year. My brother' s red ringed so I let let my brother borrow mine for 1 day and it red ringed on him. I suspect it may have had something to do with him using a 20 year old power strip. I got a new one and haven' t had any problems with it. Although it is a bit loud.

The only console that didn' t die on my was my sega genesis.
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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 14:12
Im on my third Xbox 360, and i had my Gamecube repaired.

My Ps3 is perfect.

As was my original Xbox

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 15:50
Before my 360, I had never had a single console fail on me, knock on wood. I had a NES, SNES, N64, PS, PS2, GC, Xbox, PSP and PS3 and so far so good.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 11, 2008 20:43
The only console thats ever failed on me was my first gen PS1. And it didn' t totally fail, just that I had to turn the machine upside down and rest it at an angle for it to read the CDs properly!

Something to do with the laser I read. Did anyone else have that?

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 00:02
Looks like there maybe some truth to the failures. Sony have taken down their EU forum.
http://community.eu.playstation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=130

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 00:40
There' s definitely some truth in this. A handful of people on a forum will make up stories, but when a handful of people from every major gaming forum are talking about the same problem, it needs to be discussed.

I don' t have a PS3 to check, and I' m on a filtered connection right now. Got a question for the first PS3 user who can respond. Have there been any recent firmware updates, and can the PS3 boot to XMB without a HDD installed?

As a general rule, when Sony gets a call about errors like this, they' ll tell the user to reset to factory default, and reboot, which of course won' t do anything in this case. They' re not going to confirm anything until they' re sure it' s a huge problem (which it most likely won' t be).

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 01:41
IN EDDIE WE TRUST

Everything you have posted makes complete sense, and I agree that trying to compare the 360 failure rate to what is going on with the PS3 is downright retarded!!!!

Fanboys need to accept the fact that the 360 was built like a complete piece of crap compared to the PS3, and what you said about the PS3' s cooling makes me fell even better. I' m pretty sure that this " error" is only affected a very small percentage of the PS3 install base, and should be corrected very soon.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 01:56

Have there been any recent firmware updates, and can the PS3 boot to XMB without a HDD installed?


Yes there has been plenty updates to the ps3 . I think the last one was 2.20 We get 2.30 April 15.


I not sure about the hard drive .

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 06:21
To answer those accusers, I never started this thread to try and compare the 360 and ps3 average fail rates (for the hard of reading, why don' t you go and look at my original post and tell me where I was doing a comparison?) - I was only asking if it was something I should worry about when I go out and buy a ps3. And the answer I seem to have so far is maybe or maybe not, but probably not a serious one.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 07:36
We are supposedly getting another firmware update this coming Wednesday (I think) which will add support for DTSHDMA audio as well as DTSHDHR audio.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 13:58

The only console thats ever failed on me was my first gen PS1. And it didn' t totally fail, just that I had to turn the machine upside down and rest it at an angle for it to read the CDs properly!
I had 2 that totally failed within the first month I had them, but then my 3rd one was fine.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 14:20
I think it' s weird that the PS1 and PS2 had such colossal failures, but the PS3 seems to be working. Now it is the Xbox 360 that is extremely pathetic beyond belief. Maybe consoles need to break down as often as possible for them to be #1 in the hardcore gaming market? People seem to be damn forgiving of Microsoft, that' s for sure. Then again most people are idiots who like it when companies shit on them.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 12, 2008 15:01
Don' t know about people enjoying being shat upon, but I think that the console with the most games has always been the top dog.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 14, 2008 04:01

To answer those accusers, I never started this thread to try and compare the 360 and ps3 average fail rates (for the hard of reading, why don' t you go and look at my original post and tell me where I was doing a comparison?) -.


I wasn' t talking about you buddy. I was merely stating that TeamXbox needs to get their heads out of their asses and focus on the facts, instead of tying the flaw to the 360 debacle to get media attention.


IN EDDIE WE TRUST

Everything you have posted makes complete sense,

Nothin' to it but too much time, and a freakishly out-of-control sense of curiosity.

I figured out what was wrong after a few phone calls to friends with PS3s, a quick search through the internet, and some background knowledge on the PS3. All under 10 minutes, and I don' t even have a crack team of interns/bitches at my disposal, or a PS3, like TeamXbox.

I' m like customer service after 3 bottles of cough-syrup.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 14, 2008 09:57

I' m like customer service after 3 bottles of cough-syrup.


That' s gotta be the Green F.ucking Death Nyquil!!! (Hope I spelled that right)

Anyway, this whole article was just flame bait if you ask me. If they wanted to write up a proper article they would have never made reference to the RROD.

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RE: PS3 Hardware failing? - Apr 15, 2008 00:48
Yeah, and as expected, Sony have either quietly taken care of the problem with those it affected, or the majority of teeming masses it supposedly affected are bullshitting.