PSP more powerfull than Wii?

I played the Japanese version of Crisis Core today and the graphics match, if not exceed anything seen on the Wii so far.

Crisis Core (PSP):





Metroid Prime (Wii)




Now it' s pretty much official - the PSP is not only a better handheld than the DS, it' s also a better CONSOLE than the Wii. It has better games than both combined and better graphics too. Isn' t that just plain embarrassing?

Discuss.

Isnt the PSP like a ps2?

So its kind of the same,but it depends on the developers,im sure Square-enix can maek a even better looking rpg on the wii if they worked on it.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Things like this somehow make me think that Wii might be weaker than Gamecube.

The PSP does have a much lower resolution than the Wii, so it can look like the graphics are just as " good" with less power to do it since it doesn' t have to worry about pushing as many pixels (7,833,600 pixels per second max for the PSP vs 18,432,000 per second max for the Wii).

The PSP does have a much lower resolution than the Wii, so it can look like the graphics are just as " good" with less power to do it since it doesn' t have to worry about pushing as many pixels (7,833,600 pixels per second max for the PSP vs 18,432,000 per second max for the Wii).

Good point joe , but i still think you' re a retard.

And I should care because.... ?

Wow, you played Crisis Core?
Did the gameplay match the amazing graphics?

because you don' t know it...

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

Wow, you played Crisis Core?
Did the gameplay match the amazing graphics?

I played it for like 10 minutes, don' t want to spoil the story so I didn' t go any further than the first area.

It' s an action RPG so the combat is all realtime, the closest thing to the combat would probably be kindgom hearts but a little more complex and with more options.

You switch attack methods on the fly between meleeing, magic, etc. and there is 3 icon slots constantly rolling on the edge of the screen, depending on what they land on you can perform better special moves.

It starts out very similiar to FFVII, you get off the train and arrive at the midgar reactor, the way they positioned the camera angles and such make it looks exactly the way FF7 started, but it' s a training simulation so it isn' t real and you eventually get out of it and go back to the " Real" world where the actual game begins.

Crisis core looks fucking sweet. Evil you just convinced me.

FFVll: Crisis Core on the PSP is by far the best looking game to date on the PSP, the wii is powerful enough of a console, but the lack of good quality games is the ut' most dissapointment(Zelda Twilight Princess is alright, playing the Gamecube version is identical to the wii version that is awlful), playing Crisis Core on PSP is like playing another Square-Enix title on a PS2, great visuals,music and enjoyment of satisfaction, I' m half-way to go on the Japanese version, the story by far is incredible, the drama and suspence is addictive, I cannot rest my PSP.

Evilman would LOVE the newest issue of EGM. They have an article about why there are so many crap games on the DS and Wii. They even attack Nintendo again about it in the back of the mag. It also says right on the front cover: " Wii Crap Why bad games are flooding the system" .

And check out the graphic they created to go with the article:

Heh, i bet they stole the content of my posts in Wii threads here for that article...

How about using some more bad quality screens when talking about Metroid.

Seriously the game looks a lot better than those screens show and this topic is also plain stupid really.

Ah well not going to waste my time on this any further.

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Still looks like a gamecube game.

Waitaminute... I thought the PSP was LESS powerful overall than the PS2. The PS2 is definitely weaker than the Gamecube.

Evilman would LOVE the newest issue of EGM. They have an article about why there are so many crap games on the DS and Wii. They even attack Nintendo again about it in the back of the mag. It also says right on the front cover: " Wii Crap Why bad games are flooding the system" .

And check out the graphic they created to go with the article:

I think many developers are just lazy and figured that the new control scheme would make people not notice their lack of effort. And since Nintendo didn' t really release official specifications, people couldn' t really know what to expect graphically. So developers can easily release bad ports and rushed games and claim that doing better isn' t possible. It would maybe be better if Nintendo had told us more about the console. I have seen some specifications but nothing official I assume.

But on the other hand, the PS2 had a LOT of crap too, as most consoles do. But that doesn' t change the fact that there are some great games for it that make the console interesting. So why an article about it this time?

Because PS2 had tons of great games while there isn' t much to play on Wii or DS.

And I' m talking real games only, crap like nintendogs does not count.

The reason Nintendo consoles are getting crap games is because developers have no respect for the systems, they only put games on DS & Wii because of the money, they don' t like those systems. Put yourself in the developer shoes, who would want to develop for crap old hardware when they can be developing on exciting new powerfull hardware?

If I was a developer I would shoot myself if I was forced to make games on ancient DS/Wii hardware, it' s like their stuck back in time and never moving on, while the real developers are gaining experience on current technology they will just get left behind when all is said and done.

ORIGINAL: emofag

it' s like their stuck back in time and never moving on, while the real developers are gaining experience on current technology they will just get left behind when all is said and done.

Gaining experience on current technology...hahaha that' s a good one.

The only thing they' re doing on 360 and ps3 is raise the graphical limit a bit and the physics. While still using a controller they' ve been using for so many years. Something they can do with their eyes closed.

The hardest challenge for developers right now is to make the Wii-mote work well. There' s never been anything like it before and that pushes them more than an update on graphics.

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Because PS2 had tons of great games while there isn' t much to play on Wii or DS.

They' re a bit quick to judge. The system hasn' t been out for a year even. The 360 didn' t have anything worth playing practically the first year. PS3 isn' t that magnificent either at the moment but that' s to be expected during the first year of a console. Dreamcast was a bit different on the other hand and had some decent to very good things at or shortly after launch. And Wii did actually have a few games too that got over 9/10. Which isn' t too bad for a first year I think. The PS2 had great games but it didn' t come close to the amount of crap that was released for it.

On a side note, Fatal Frame is also coming to Wii by the way. Grashopper will develop it for Tecmo as soon as they' ve finished No More Heroes. I wonder when he' ll do his collaboration with Kojima for their Project S then.

Aaah yes Fatal

Fatal Frame / Project Zero for Wii? Why, yes!

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Tecmo has been silent about Fatal Frame for some time now, but that doesn' t mean the horror franchise has been forgotten. To the contrary, 1UP learned at Tokyo Game Show that Tecmo' s enlisted the help of Grasshopper Interactive to produce the next Fatal Frame game. And here' s the kicker: it' s for Wii.

Grasshopper will start on Fatal Frame when work on No More Heroes, recently announced for a US release via Ubisoft, has finished. Given that No More Heroes was developed on Wii, Grasshopper seems content on Nintendo' s console.

Taking photographs of ghouls has been a part of Fatal Frame since day one, so motion controls certainly make sense for the series, but the last we heard about the next Fatal Frame seemed to have Microsoft and Sony' s consoles in mind. " I already have some ideas that I' d like to do if I had more development time and a more powerful system," said Fatal Frame 3 Producer Keisuke Kikuchi all the way back in July 2005.

Then again, in 2005, no one knew Wii was going to blow up, either.

Oooh and Ys here' s a little thing you missed. Might get the attention of some people.

TimeSplitters 4 for Wii? Mmmmmaybe!

Free Radical' s David Doak has described Wii development in general as " a good thing to do" and followed that up with " I think we want to put it [TimeSplitters 4] on the Wii" , in an interview with Game Informer.

" I' m sure it' s possible to do a control scheme that works," Doak added when asked about his thoughts on developing a first-person shooter for Wii.

He went on to say he' d like to see Free Radical' s Second Sight on Wii too.

" Also, if you want to start a petition for remaking Second Sight on the Wii, I' d like to see that as well, because I think that game worked really well, [laughs] because of the manipulation stuff."

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Horror games on the wii will look like this

The PSP ain' t more powerfull than the Wii, it' s your TV wich is worse than your PSP-screen. :)
But the control-mechanism is better on the PSP, than home consoles.
Afterall, only the PSP are able to give the user enough control so you can control the world (Locoroco), while all the other consoles have to settle for a characther or maybe two, if you have two controllers.. :-/

ORIGINAL: Demonoroth
The only thing they' re doing on 360 and ps3 is raise the graphical limit a bit and the physics. While still using a controller they' ve been using for so many years. Something they can do with their eyes closed.

The hardest challenge for developers right now is to make the Wii-mote work well. There' s never been anything like it before and that pushes them more than an update on graphics.

A bit? More like 50 times. LOL.

And controllers aren' t a technical boundary, it isn' t even anything that affects most developers, if you have a team of 50 people working on a game, 2 or 3 are working on controllers, the other 47 guys are getting left behind technologically by working on ancient hardware.

A bit? More like 50 times. LOL.

The current generation graphics aren' t 50 times better than last generation' s. Sure, they' re in HD now, but other than that there really isn' t much that looks mindblowingly different from last gen.

Horror games on the wii will look like this

Oh come on now. Eternal Darkness looks better than that.

I must play the first two Fatal Frames. I sure hope Sadness delivers what it promises.

I was joking Marink! The pictured game though, is the scariest game iv ever played

The current generation graphics aren' t 50 times better than last generation' s. Sure, they' re in HD now, but other than that there really isn' t much that looks mindblowingly different from last gen.

There are way too many different things that contribute to performance, so it' s impossible to quantify the difference with a single number. However, I think we can agree that this gen is a shit load better than the last. It' s easy to say that besides HD there isn' t much difference but that' s simply not true.

Halo 480p (Xbox)








Halo 3 720p (Xbox 360)

There are definitely improvements, but I think we' re beyond the point where we see a really shocking improvement of graphics quality from one generation to the next, a' la 8 bit to 16 bit, or 2D to 3D. From here on, the improvements will be more subtle, for example the realtime motion blur and depth-of-field we' re now seeing.

Of course the next big leap will be to actual 3D, holographic or some other technology. But who knows how many years away that is.

Yes, it is obviously better, just not mindblowingly so. Halo 1 was a launch game. Halo 3 is not.

ORIGINAL: Joe Redifer

A bit? More like 50 times. LOL.

The current generation graphics aren' t 50 times better than last generation' s. Sure, they' re in HD now, but other than that there really isn' t much that looks mindblowingly different from last gen.

Um, just about every high profile 360/PS3/PC game looks 50 times better than anything from last gen.


Regardless your " it' s just HD" bullshit gets thrown out the window when you realize last gen PC games were already running in console equivalent HD resolutions, and they still look like shit now, so no, higher resolutions isn' t what makes them look better, it' s EVERYTHING that makes them look better, because everything is more powerful now, moron.

Grand Theft Auto 3 on PC still looks like shit, doesn' t matter if you can run it at high resolutions. Resolution has nothing to do with why it looks like shit now.

If anything the things that got the lowest boost was resolution, the jump from 480i/p to the 720p " standard" we see today isn' t much of a jump.

If you think the graphics look 50 times better, then you' ve been sucking a bit too much of your mom' s cock. I think in one thread somewhere you stated that you like to get high. Perhaps you are high when you look at current gen graphics? They really aren' t that great. Good, yes. Mindblowing? Fuck no.

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ORIGINAL: Joe Redifer

If you think the graphics look 50 times better, then you' ve been sucking a bit too much of your mom' s cock. I think in one thread somewhere you stated that you like to get high. Perhaps you are high when you look at current gen graphics? They really aren' t that great. Good, yes. Mindblowing? *** no.

Hahahah, that' s great.

I destroyed your " it' s just HD" argument and now you' re mad? Tsk, tsk.

And when have I used the word " mind blowing" ? Sure they aren' t mind blowing, but they still look atleast 50 times better, which is what I' m saying, I' m not saying anything about them being mind blowing.

If you have a car, and I have a jet, whether or not the speed of my jet " blows your mind" I can still travel 50 times faster than you can, wether your mind is blown or not is irrelevant to that fact.

i don' t agree with you emofag, i think it' s just 42 times...

50 times is a lot of multipliers there, dude. You pulled that number from your ass. Remember, we' re talking graphics here. I' d say the current generation graphics are a bit over 50 times better than the PS 1 generation. I' m not talking CPU cycles, I' m talking about what shows up on my screen. Then again the Genesis and SNES usually looked better and more appealing than PS1 graphics...

I think it' s 51 times. Although I still wouldn' t say my mind is " blown away" by any graphics. Infact there was only one time where my mind ever came close to being blown away. I was taking a piss and I accidentally sneezed at the same time. It was like my mind tried to escape through my asshole. True story.

ORIGINAL: Joe Redifer

50 times is a lot of multipliers there, dude. You pulled that number from your ass. Remember, we' re talking graphics here. I' d say the current generation graphics are a bit over 50 times better than the PS 1 generation. I' m not talking CPU cycles, I' m talking about what shows up on my screen. Then again the Genesis and SNES usually looked better and more appealing than PS1 graphics...

You don' t know how to properly judge graphics.