Haha that dude was my biggest criticism of SH3. While Yuri was quite cool, it' s simply LESS fun to play with some androgynous most-likely shemale character. I want a character to identify with, not one to be ashamed of.

mmmm i dont have a problem playing females in games, i actually prefer playing females in RPG' s for some odd reason, but gay guys, thats just fucking sad!

I don' t mind having a gay character in a game, but it' s really hard for me to immerse myself in the game if I' m being forced to play as a gay/meterosexual looking guy. Just personal preference I guess.

I don' t mind having a gay character in a game, but it' s really hard for me to immerse myself in the game if I' m being forced to play as a gay/meterosexual looking guy. Just personal preference I guess.

Unless the gay character has relavance to the game, i dont see why it should be obviously flaunted, i hate gays who overact being gay. Off with their heads.. both of them!


I dont mind gay people who are just like everyone else!

i hate gays who overact being gay. Off with their heads.. both of them!


I dont mind gay people who are just like everyone else!

Who gives a f*** how you think people should act? Straight people are constantly " flaunting" their straightness in public, holding hands, hugging and kissing. People have a right to be themselves whether other people like it or not.

There is no problem with straight or gay people holding hands in public or such like thats what you expect from people who love each other, it is the other double standards that are the problem:

Such as if a gay guy acts all camp and goes round making suggestive remarks to men, and touching them up it is all accepted as a bit of harmless fun, but if a straight guy does it to women its called sexual harassment.
Or if there is a gay pride parade that is seen as ok, but a straight pride parade would never be allowed because it is seen as divisive and offensive.

I think gay people should be allowed to live.

that' s very generous of you.

Such as if a gay guy acts all camp and goes round making suggestive remarks to men, and touching them up it is all accepted as a bit of harmless fun, but if a straight guy does it to women its called sexual harassment.
Or if there is a gay pride parade that is seen as ok, but a straight pride parade would never be allowed because it is seen as divisive and offensive.

Nobody should be the target of uninvited sexual advances. But there is a difference between " acting all camp" (i.e., flamboyant) which is just a part of some peoples' personalities, and making suggestive remarks and touching people. That is sexual harassment no matter who does it.

The whole reason that there are events like gay pride is because gays have been oppressed and ridiculed all along. It is an expression of perseverence in an unfair system. That' s why it wouldn' t mean the same thing if there was such a thing as a " straight pride" parade. You can' t ignore history and you can' t ignore the current imbalance.

So can we all agree to at least shoot Andy Dick?

Edit: (yeah, I know he' s straight)

To me " Homosexuality" is sort of a perversion. Just like a person that digs scat or bdsm or any kind of specific sexual interest. We all have our own, some extremer than others. I myself have a list of my own specific interest, that I work hard to check off, one by one, hoping I will have tested everything that gives me kicks, by the time I die.

Shocking revealing:
Last thing to get crossed on the list, was with a woman 10 years older than me.
Next, I' m hoping to test a threesome (and I know it' s impossible, but I' d prefer twins).

Therefore I think people should treat gays as other people with specific sexual interests. I myself think lesbians are frickin' hot, so I would be a hypocrit if I couldn' t accept gays. You are allowed to think it' s nasty (like I think of scat porno) ' but as long as it doesn' t hurt nobody, I try to be understanding.

Any of you dare share your the wildest thing related to sex, you' ve done?



Koreans might possibly be the worst.

You should use the word " variation" rather than " perversion." " Perversion" has oppressive religious connotations. Also, scat is hardly equivalent to homosexuality. About 10% of all people are gay or lesbian, people who are into scat probably make up less than .001%.

Sorry, I didn' t know the true meaning behind the word " perversions" , but I hope people understood what I meant. I DO however think that I can compare homosexuallity with scat and what not. It is a preference that isn' t what nature had intended for mankind or any animal walking this earth (except Ducks. There is actually scientific rumours, saying there might exist GAY DUCKS!). Gay boys are kind of like 2 male electric cords, technically it isn' t meant. But they don' t give a *** about that (well, some do), since it' s in their interest they make it work. Whatever specific " thing" that attracts us, is imo a " perversion" .



Bad picture, but he looks more lika a She then she from FFXIII. Still think he' s kinda cool though.

Who is for a legaslation that force gay people to stay indoors at night?

Gotta admit, I' m really turned off from seeing two guys kiss. It' s something about the beard on beard thing I just can' t stand. Kinda like two pieces of sandpaper rubbing against eachother. But I don' t think they need to stay inside, especially not at night, Quez. Then it' s the least chance of children and myself seeing them in action.

Still, I' m half croatian. I kiss dudes all the time, as a greating.

On another note, I think Elton John Rocks!

It is a preference that isn' t what nature had intended for mankind or any animal walking this earth (except Ducks. There is actually scientific rumours, saying there might exist GAY DUCKS!). Gay boys are kind of like 2 male electric cords, technically it isn' t meant.

One' s sexual preference is decided when one is born and is very likely to be genetically structured.
Weird fetishes are more likely to have social and psychological reasons.

Nature doesn' t intend for anything else than survival. In many cases homosexuality can increase odds of survival due to the fact that two strong males can easier protect each other than one male and one female.
In many species, including humans long ago, homosexual males would often reproduce with a female (weird I know) which assured the continuation of the species.

Sexual preference, such as homosexuality, cannot be changed. People don' t get bored with their sexual preferences.
Sexual fetishes however can change. Some people get bored with their fetishes and try other stuff.

Homosexuality is something that nature has found to increase survival chances and sexuality is decided at birth. Sexual preference cannot change.
Therefor, it can not be compared to sexual fetishes, such as the ones you mentioned.

Who gives a f*** how you think people should act? Straight people are constantly " flaunting" their straightness in public, holding hands, hugging and kissing. People have a right to be themselves whether other people like it or not.

So if people have annoying personalities im not allowed to dislike it? I' m glad for you that you hold it in your heart to like everyone, and that dislike isnt in your world.

People have the right to be who ever they like, i just have the option to dislike or even hate it.

Oh wait is it because they are gay im not allowed to dislike their personalities? now who is being discriminated.

Didn' t we have like a 10 page convo about this already in another thread?

Then why can a person change from straight to gay? This old man that lured me into his bar in Japan turned out to be gay. Just let me make clear that I did NOT sleep with the old dude, even though he tried. Anyways, he told me he was straight as a lumberjack when he was young, and it wasn' t until his older days that he got bored of women and found an interest in children. I think homosexuality, like ell other fetishes is due to the psyche and therefore determined by the circumstances a person is raised. Certanly it isn' t a genetic disease, or any other kind of disease for that matter. A person doesn' t really choose to become gay or not, but due to how the person grows up, he might turn gay... It could happen to me or you. Though I know I love women to much for me to ever become gay, but it could happen to any of U.

You can' t change from straight to gay.
In such scenarios that person is one of the following
1) not fully aware of his true sexual preference due to social patterns in society
2) Lying
3) Not scientifically gay

I can understand that you want to judge homosexuality by your own personal experiences such as the gay man trying to rape you, but science has during the past years gathered lots of data which shows that it' s most likely (almost 100%) that homosexuality is developed before you are born, and not by social patterns or psychological disorders.
The man you speak of seem to have an odd interest in children as you specifically pointed out. I hope you are aware that being a pedophile and being homosexual is not the same thing. It is clear that he was not homosexual, but suffered from some kind of psychological disorder.

Anyone can become interested in any sexual fetish depending on what situations and environments we are put in. But " true" homosexuality is not of that kind.
Homosexuality is NOT a fetish.