EGM trashed Lair and Blue dragon!

Lair (PS3, Factor 5): 6.0, 5.5, 5.0

Blue Dragon (Xbox 360, Microsoft): 6.5, 7.5, 6.5

Seriously.

Wtf is wrong with EGM staff.

In the same magazine they gaved Persona 3 - 9.5
While for ex IGN gaved that crap game 83/100.

EGM staff are just ***ed up atm.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

And since Famitsu gaved BD 37/40 I know its a great JRPG.

Famitsu (a Japanese mag) gave a Japanese Role-Playing Game what accounts to an A.

Japan likes a good solid traditional RPG, EGM is looking for new and " next-gen" , not good.

Lair I' m still very worried about. There was a lot of talk about the controls being freaky with SIXAXIS, and honestly, while the graphics do the job, they' re nothing to write home about (everything but the gorgeous CG vids obviously). I still have my fingers crossed, and I don' t think it' ll be a 5 or a 6 necessarily, I' m just a little worried is all.

Famitsu is the biggest gaming magazine in Japan,and if you like JRPG like I do,you listen to what those says,not some weird fucked up 1up staff,have you seen them irl? they are fucked up.
They think they' re cool with their fuckedu p cloths and geeky attitude,fuck them.

And no,I doubt Lair is a 5/10 game,so perhaps its not an AAA title,you dont have to bash the game then.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

1up isn' t geeky, they make enough money to come across as geeky. Now Kotaku, that' s geeky.

Some of Famitsu' s reviews are spot on, others feel really really flaky. I imported a copy of Legend of the Mystical Ninja DS straight from Japan just to prove their 6.0 review wrong. It was nowhere near as bad as what they made it out to be. The fact that it was in Japanese was the sole bad thing about it, and that' s only because I' m not competent in their written language.

Well EGM gaved Persona 3 - 9.5 in their latest magazine.

hah.

Seriously...


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IGn gaved it 8.3 for ex.

ps!

" Play" gaved Lair 9/10.

To bad that EGM gonna influence IGN/GAMESPOT now,since in west we like to copying each other magazine/site reviews.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Lair looked as though it had alot of Potenital, i still want to play the thing before judgement. Just hope it isnt another HS.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

Btw EGM gaved Gundam seed dynasty to 360 the same score as Lair.

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Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

IGN are usually good at reviews.. Though with most games you have to play them for yourself first, thank god for Xbox live Market place and Playstation Network... Booo Wii connect.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

lair: 6.0, 5.5, 5.0
crispin says the combat system is confusing, and the sixaxis controls don' t always work the way they should. lock-on system is also jacked.
greg ford says the camera is frustrating in ground combat. the wide open levels hold a lot of potential but ultimately don' t deliver
garnett says it' s a " frustrating disappointment" with a few bright spots



blue dragon: 6.5, 7.5, 6.5
it has neither strong characters nor gripping storytelling, the battle system is " stellar" though but unaccompanied by any sort of interesting plot to hang your hat on. bryan is a bit easier on the story than andrew fitch (who had the lead review), and ray called it " safe."

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

As I haven' t played either games, I cannot really judge either one. And though I had hoped Lair to be good, this is what I feared. I dunno if the game will really be any good, despite the hype, because gameplaywise (at least ground battles) looked really dull.

And as all know I care not for Blue Dragon.

Still, I' ll wait for the demo, before deciding if EGM or IGN is right.

Lair: 6.0, 5.5, 5.0
This game won' t be considered epic or " aaa" title, if it got down to these mediocre score, than the game is screwed, and i' m very sure that later on Gamesrankings , this game will not exceed the 85% mark...

In blue dragon however,things might be different as it is a JRPG, i have a good feeling that EGM bashed it because it didn' t bring anything amazing, something taht will feel totaly nexgen and CAN' t BE done on other consoles (bar graphics)... In that Case magazines tend to bash the game , as a way to punish the publishers for not doing a much beter job , even if the game is really good and fun. as a JRPG fan, i think i will play blu dragon to the end, specialy when famitsu gave it 37/40 (although this magazine gives some really really weird scores soemtimes)

Yes I feel like ABA.

Because I understand why EGM didn' t like the story,sometimes the story/character just feels wrong/boring ***ed up etc in some JRPG while in others you might love it but your friend look at you like you must be nuts.

So im glad they liked the combat/experience and the exploration and twons and skill development in the game for " stellar" now its just up to me and try out the story myself in BD to see if it fit me or not,same with the characters.


Lair?

Well its like Aba said,even though it might be a 8/10 game it can' t be an AAA title since the avg score is 5.5 it doesnt matter how much they overexggrating when you reach a score of 5 there must be some serious flaws within the game.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Well ever since EGM gave FFXII 9/10 I dont care about their ratings anways. Its still Eurogamer > any other Review site for me.


As for Persona 3, it can' t be that bad. It' s not like EGM was the only site this game got good reviews from.

Im not sayingf it was bad,but 9.5?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Often for me, a game that recieves a 9 shouldn' t possibly be confused with a game that deserves a 5. Then something is seriously, with Quez words Fucked up!

I know I tend to bitch about this, but PDZ got a 9 and 10 at most places, however a free swedish gaming magazine gave the game a 6, which was a score I much more respected.

Judging a game based on story however is a though issue, as the definition on what is good/bad is something that is, also as Quez said, very varied due to personal preferences.

As such is artistic part of the graphics.

The character designer of Blue Dragon is a legend inn Japan, the guy behind Dragon Ball. Personally I hate Dragon Ball, especially the character design, so it is abvious I won' t like the art style in Blue Dragon.

But then again, this is the difference between an analysis and a review.
A reviewer states his/her opinion of the game, while an analysis states facts, nothing but facts.

I agree,but heres the thing,why do they always copying each others review.

Why cant I see like in famitsu one giving a game a 9 and another one giving it a 6.

I doubt very much they had the eaxactly same feelings about these 2 titles.

You mentioned a Swedish magazine,yeah,but they also gaved I-8 6/10 so yes they give their opinion and doesnt follow the mainstream american press thankfully.

ps! never played i-8 have no idea how it is.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I only played the Demo of I-8, while weapons are truly interresting and fun to use, the game isn' t! I' d say that 6/10 is about right, yeah.

But you only played a demo.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Indeed. And it failed to get me interested enough to pay to play the full game. That is why my statement was a pure guess of what I think the game might deserve.

Edit: Just as I am already guessing that Lair might not turn great.

I always said that 1up staff sucks ass and are a couple of fucked up geeks.

If you thought Lair would be good then im sure you shouldn' t be to worried EGM are fucked up.
They wanna overexggrating everything.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

But you only played a demo.

Why play the demo when you can watch TRANSFORMERS!!!!!

ARE YOU USERNAME: LADIESMAN 217!!!!!!!!

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

Wtf?!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Wtf?!

Yeah sorry to go off topic like that. Its just that movie has me going crazy.

Anyway yeah i can see what Dionysius is saying the game had nothing special about it. The character is really really really cheap to a point where it actually angers me.

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

Tht' s why i guys i told you many time to go by Gamerankings, if it' s above

>93% it' s a masterpiece IN ITS GENRE (AAA)

> 90% it' s an awesome game IN ITS GENRE (AAA)

> 85 % it' s a great game in its genre

> 80% it' s a good game in its genre

THIS IS BASED ON MY EXEPERIENCE WITH GAMES as i can find that this pattern is consistent with ALMOST all the games i ever played, check out yourself.


1) Some of the games get bashed because they are merely sequals brining only very small new innovation to their prequals, some view them as exepension packs AKA Graw 2, if you haven' t played the original you will think that those relatively low scores are insane

2) Some games get bashed because of the lack of the multiplayer quality, thus the score gets low, but for people who are more interested in single player modes, they should be misleaded, i like some magazines who gives a scire for the multiplayer and for the single player mode , THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.


Anyway trust gamerankings

Blue Dragon sucks and is not fun to play, that could be why it was rated low. It' s definitely one of the crappiest turn-based RPGs I' ve ever tried.

It' s definitely one of the crappiest turn-based RPGs I' ve ever tried.

Then you havn' t played many jrpg' s.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

When did persona 3 come out?

I dont know it was in the review,fuck that game.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

" and was set to be released in North America on July 24, 2007, but due to a manufacturing error with the Persona 3 Art Book, Persona 3' s ship date was delayed to August 14, 2007."

Source (wikipedia.org)

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Then you havn' t played many jrpg' s.

Oh yes I have, though I' ve never cared for games like Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior/Dragon' s Quest. However I don' t consider Square to be the ultimate in RPGs even though I really did like Chrono Trigger. I don' t like the timing bar o Blue Dragon nor do I like having to wait 5 minutes after I select an attack before my character actually attacks.

The game is called SMT: Persona 3?

I' ve never been a fan of the SMT series, quite franky I think they suck, but I did like Persona 1 & 2 on PS1, is this a direct sequel to those games or another shitty SMT game?

Nobody is forcing you to use the focus bar.
You can play normally.

The focus bar is one of the smartest things to ever come along in my opinion because it let me combine perfect heal/defend spells.

Lets say its my turn with the main healer and one of my guys are down and everyone is hurted,what do I do?
I let the mainhealer focus his heal all spell,so it goes beyond the next character who trhows a revive item so the guy down wakes up and after the spell from the main healer shows up and boosted and he get the heal.

You get what I mean ?

a lot of nice combos that you can mix up with thw delay focus thing,I thought it was geniusly done.
I seriously did.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I think Blue Dragon is gonna suck from all the crappy reviews its been getting.

Actually computerandvideogames one of europes best most respect gamesites gaved it 9/10.

And Famitsu 37/40 so you cant say its been trashed by the world or west since some from the west has so far given it 9/10 reviews.
EGM isn' t the only source for reviews,however US sites/magazines tends to copying each other.

So Lair and BD could be in problem now.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Well Lair is out in Canada and the US on the 14th August so i' ll be able to pick it up here ahead of the late September PAL release date.

It looks good, and just still concerned about the controls.

Egm sucks,they have three people to make it looks like ythey giving a fair opinion and having a second/third opinion on each title,but since they always copying each other,whats the idea?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Personally I loved SMT: Digital Devil Saga, and think it is one of the bestestest JRPG' s out there, with a darker tone, often missing from JRPG' s. And from the twisted trailers, and the few hours I tested of the Japanese version of Persona 3, the games story does seem intruiging. However I am currently in a period, where JRPG' s doesn' t seem all that tempting. Still, if any JRPG at the moment, Persona 3 is on the top of my list... At least until Eternal Sonata is released.

Screw persona 3,Blue dragon all the way ;)

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Uh oh, I am getting a bit concerned right now. EDGE scores came in and well...Blue Dragon got 6/10.

Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (NDS, Nintendo): 9
Blue Dragon (Xbox 360, Microsoft): 6
Transformers (Xbox 360/PS3/Wii/PS2, Activision): 2
Odin Sphere (PS2, Atlus): 6
Ouendan 2 (NDS, Nintendo): 8
Monster Madness (Xbox 360, Southpeak): 5
Exit 2 (PSP, Taito): 7
Hour of Victory (Xbox 360, Midway): 2
Tenchu Z (Xbox 360, From Software): 6
Calling all cars (PS3, Sony): 6
Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (PS3, Ubisoft): 6
More Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo): 7
Anno 1701 (NDS, Disney): 8

Damn you Sakaguchi, did you seriously fail on this one?

They gave GRAW2 on the PS3 a six as well. Please explain.

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