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Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 14:30
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 16:49
Looking at the 2nd shot (the one with the HUD), ...it' s looks like it will be the same old MGS with the camera angle from 3/PO.

I want direct feed HD screens...

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 22:01
Sorry makji thats all I got . lets not make any judgments until we see it in action.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 22:55
1up posted tons of in-game pictures with good quality-

http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3140656&sec=IMAGES

some samples from it.

[image]http://media.1up.com/media?id=3357254&type=lg[/image]

[image]http://media.1up.com/media?id=3357262&type=lg[/image]

[image]http://media.1up.com/media?id=3357261&type=lg[/image]

[image]http://media.1up.com/media?id=3357255&type=lg[/image]

Just because CoD4 and GoW looks better doesnt mean this is crap,so plz all fanboys it looks good.

Just because something that you was hoping for isn' t as good looking as GoW or CoD4 or killzone2 doesnt mean its great looking,k?
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 23:37
What the devil is he carrying in the 2nd screen? It looks like a one-round hunting pistol, with a lazer mounted below it. Dunno, maybe I' m just looking at it the wrong way, but it looks more like a skinny flare-gun or zoo-tranquilizer than a conventional handgun.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 24, 2007 23:58
I can do better check it out


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Full 15 min demo vid - here

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 00:11
Saving everybody the trip to ConsoleWars. Time to tear these photos apart! At first glance it appears that Kojima Productions has their stuff down. From what it looks like they made sure there was a lot of ex-Soviet weaponry for Snake to pick up. Some of these guns definately paint a bizzare picture for the plot.

No comment... No freaking comment.


Snake gets a tricked-out scoped Mosin-Nagant! Hopefully this is just a primary zoom feature a-la GRAW, & we' ll be able to use the optics properly.


The picture itself is pretty self explanatory. Snake' s got an AK-101. It' s an AK-74 chambered for 5.56 NATO, produced by Russia for export to the west. (Remember Somalia? All the nutjob insurgents bought AK-101s.) He' s also got a GP-30, an underbelly grenade launcher for the 101' s. Hopefully we' ll get to fire some of the neater stuff that goes through that thing (bouncy fragmentation grenades anybody?).


I' ll avoid discussion on the massive metal bird flying through the sky, we all know what that is.

The guys in the real combat gear (I think those are the guys working for Oceliquid) all have SCAR-H (Special Operational Forces Combat Assault Rifle - Heavy didn' t fit all that well onto the rifle itself.). The US are as far as I know the only major superpower who have these, we just bought about 35,000 of ' em pretty recently from Fabrique National - Belgium (The guys that brought us that funny looking P90) which makes me wonder how they got ' em.

Food for thought... food for thought.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 00:20
son of a bitch the demolooksfuking incredible

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 02:15
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 02:30
I seen better graphic in GRAW 1 and 2.

And to fags saying,well this is coming in 08 it might look better,yeah and?
Then we get the sequals to rainbow six vegas and graw 3.

MGs4 looks really good,but its not one of the best looking games which people thought it would be.

Or even the best.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 02:49
The graphics are good enough. Did you see how the dust particles from the exploded building was blown through the street? You could see it coming from one side and then twirling into the street Snake was at. That was beautiful.
The gameplay seems really good, much better than I had expected. And the ability to play it as an FPS is fun, although I doubt many will take advantage of it.
Ah, so many great ideas it seems.
One thing I didn' t like was the barrel Snake could use... where did he hide it? I mean, the cardboard box can be folded and put in a bag or something but a barrel? *sigh*
Anyway, I' ll spend lots of time looking at the MULTIPLE PAGES of those magasines
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 02:57

The graphics are good enough. Did you see how the dust particles from the exploded building was blown through the street?


Yepp it is.
But if you played graw 1 or Graw 2 on a HDTV you would know what im talking about.

Anyway MGS4 looks really great,im not saying anything against that.
But some people portraited it to be one of the best looking games if not the best for months.

Now that I seen the gameplay video I know that it was like Majik said,the cutscens we seen so far looks better then when you play it,we all suspected that,but some people expected the cutscens to be just as good as the gameplay.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 03:26
I bought the ps2 for MGS2 , i will buy the ps3 for MGS4 .. The game looks awesome .. I guess it isnt goin to change the opinion of ppl who dont like the MGS series but for a fan like me this was all i was hoping for ..

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 03:43
This looks crazy it sucks that this will be the last one.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 03:48

but for a fan like me this was all i was hoping for ..


Like halo is a story driven fps,I always seen MGS as a stealth,action story driven game too.

So for me its hard to judge them.

Splinter cell serie for ex has execellt graphic/gameplay but is weak at its story.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 04:04
I could sort of see this demo resembling splinter cell 4, or the other way around. In previous MGS games, you tended to rely on cover to keep from being noticed, but in splinter Cell you could hide anywhere as long as it was dark enough. Now we see Snake using Octocam to hide basically anywhere as long as there' s a texture for the camo to mimic. On the other end of the IP war, Splinter Cell:Double agent removed the shadows=safe gamplay from the core experience. No idea what this means for these games in particular.


One thing I didn' t like was the barrel Snake could use... where did he hide it? I mean, the cardboard box can be folded and put in a bag or something but a barrel?
It' s sort of the other way around. Snake carries a lot of heavy guns, more than any self respecting human being should. Where does he put them all? In the barrel of course! Think about it, it' s easier to carry just one easy to transport barrel than to keep dragging 15+ guns around.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 04:05
Gameplay looks great.

What I liked:
the Camocamo
The stun-knife
the way the camera shakes
I love the over the sholder firing thing, switching sides is neat.
The country A and Country B thing gives the game some good replay potentail.
The graphics are good and the framerate is solid.

What I didnt like:
I missed snakes leaning behind a wall, it seems so last gen to stand next to it.
I wasnt mad about the lower sneaking posture, too much of his ass.


Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 05:48
This game looks beyond everything else, the amount of action here is super impressive, and the humor just kills me, WTF at snake controlling MK II with a Sixaxis controller, or the girl magazines, pure awesomeness

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 06:29
Tiny attention to details make all the difference.

Very impressive.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 06:34
whats the ring around snake the whole time? it annoyed me sometimes.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 06:57
It' s not there all the time, it' s something to do with the camouflage system. You hold a button, the circle appears and your camouflage changes to blend in with your surroundings… taking the texture from within the radius of the circle. 10x better than the camo system on MGS3

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 08:49
i finaly saw the video and :

1) the graphics are very good in General but it cruely lacks of color which make it look boring, and technically, it' s not on par with cutscenes as it lacks particle effects.. we have seen as well better looking games already.


2) ANimations, this is the part that i really really wished will change but sadly they didn' t do much work about it, some subtle improvements but still looks uncanny... we' ve seen much better in that department as well.

3) some ideas are just plain stupid and break the classy metal gear, making snake spining inside a barrel to hit the enemies (strangely ) and right after snake goes throwing up is ... well stupid , i don' t like that. also , snake catching the soldier balls , WTF is that ?? and why the hell would snake' s hand go right on the statue' s dick... i' m getting sick of these japanese perverts, i don' t find this funny seriously , may be in another game, but making Snake do all these stuff make him lose its class.
the backpain is a NICE touch of humour though.

4) the AI looks marvelously dumb, but i heard they turned it down on purpose for the demo.


i will still love to play this game because even with all those disappointments , it' s metal gear after all, and i hope it' ll come to the 360.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 08:53
Kojima also said in MGS2 he wanted you to get a shit in your head.
You know shen a soldier piss down from the boat,he wanted that soldier to take a dump instead.



Many things in the demonstration felt childish,liuke the barrel as you mentioned,and how some enemies cant seem to see you even though they should.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 08:56
man that' s exactly the word i was looking for , some elements of MGS 4 are so childish, some others should make Gay people proud.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 08:59
You and me want a more realistic game,like in that fire fight in the end,more like that.
However its hard to say you want a realistic game when you know the past of the mgs games with vampires,living hands on their own,invisble ninja and wasp boss etc.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 09:03
it can be realistic even if it features vampires and what have you... you got it right ? you can live with a vampire and fantasy stuff because it' s part of the story, it' s part of that world... pulling out a barrel of nowhere, spinning inside it down the path to smash well trained soldiers like in bowling game is NOT.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 09:09
I hear you man,it doesnt feel like you facing a real cool enemy when you can treat them like idiots/morons like in a cartoon movie.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 09:16
exactly, it breaks the immersion, they have done much more complicated stuff, why can' t they just take some good decisions.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 09:32

and right after snake goes throwing up is ... well stupid ,


Erm... you could get Snake to throw up all you wanted in MGS3. You just went into the camo viewer & spun him around. You left the menu & he ralphed.


i don' t like that. also , snake catching the soldier balls

If you' re a man, you' ve been hit in the boys before. It' s an incapacitating feeling at best. Can you suggest a better way to stun somebody in a hand to hand fight?


and why the hell would snake' s hand go right on the statue' s dick...

Because Kojima was relying on a social taboo of genitals being grodie & to cover them up to get a cheap laugh. Hell, it worked for me.


some ideas are just plain stupid and break the classy metal gear, making snake spining inside a barrel to hit the enemies
So what you' re saying is that knocking somebody over with an oil drum is far less " classy" than sneaking up behind somebody in a 3 foot high cardboard box?

Or aiming your handgun at a soldier' s nuts to get his dog tags?
Or having a soda straw and careful camera angles cover up Raiden' s naughty bits?
Or using bees as a lethal weapon?
Or using a laser mic to listen in on a soldier having diarrhea?
Or distracting your enemies with porno mags?

The series as a whole has never taken itself too seriously. There' s a subtle underlying outrageousness that makes the MGS games fun, it gives them definition as a series.

I mean, look at some of that footage that was just posted. Any normal human being would see Snake standing 3 feet off to the right of them. People have perhipheral vision, we' d notice something like that. He would have turned & shot snake twice in the chest & once in the head. End of story. But that wouldn' t be any fun. It' s far more entertaining if you sneak up to them, throw them to the ground and frisk them for items and weapons.

All of that stuff needs to be taken with a grain of salt. The game is amazing, partly so because of it' s sick & twisted sense of humor.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 09:52
Seeing the trailers for mGS4 on the next-gen ps3 seein him in pain almost looking to die,and being old and tired,lots of people expect a more serious realistic title.

perhaps that was just me.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 10:01
I' ll admit I did too, but I wasn' t hoping for one, I was dreading one. Think about what Metal Gear Solid would be like if they took out all the laughable bits...

You' d call it Splinter Cell.

Remember back when Sons of Liberty was announced? They didn' t show any of the goofy ridiculous stuff that was loaded into the original. It was more of a hardware showcase than a plot primer. It' s also true for the 4 trailer.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 10:02
look the cardbox was funny in meteal gear solid 1, it' s something totaly new and the game was revolutionary back at the time, the cardbox was just a fun part that' s all... In metal gear 2 and 3, they left the cardbox because it belongs to the culture of metal gear, it became a classic and it remionds you the old day, i love developers when they do those kind of things, like when leaving those old tunes in many games or some outdated sound effects.

IN MGS4, the barrel thing is new to the series, it' s not even funny AT ALL, so what' s the point, just to put an idea into the gameplay, can' t he do better than this ??

and now you' re defending even the hand on ball part and worse the hand on dick , come on man !! do you see sam fisher do so? do you see leon do so? do you see dante kick his brother in the nut ?? ... i don' t know man , but for me this is not the elegant classy way.

i didn' t comment on the soldiers that didn' t notice snake on the roof, it' s not because i didn' t notice, but because i new it' s " part" of the game, part of make it fun but THERE SHOULD BE A LIMIT.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 13:27
This is the game that will save the PS3. If Sony loses exclusivity on it, it will be the greatest mistake of their gaming division.

As for my impressions of the game, from what I can tell it looks like MGS4 will be the first game to truely show us the difference that extra storage space for games BluRay makes. The game has huge variety in content and evironments, and lets not forget loads of high quality HD cinematics. To the extent that we' ll probably never see in a third person shooter for 360.

This ***ing game is the reason to own a PS3.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 13:44
wow... this is the first black & white game I' ve seen since Atari' s " Stunt Cycle."


Actually I think this looks fantastic. I really like the humorous elements. Other games are so boring and portentous with their cheesy " dark and gritty" seriousness. I can appreciate the fact that there are still game designers who remember these things are supposed to be fun.
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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 16:50
Hey guys, is Twin Snakes a complete port of the original? I still have to start the Metal Gear Solid series.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 17:13

Hey guys, is Twin Snakes a complete port of the original? I still have to start the Metal Gear Solid series.


Yeah it is, with some additions and twists, people who played the first dislike twin snakes though. I loved it, and can clearly recommend it

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 20:07


ORIGINAL: Marink

Hey guys, is Twin Snakes a complete port of the original? I still have to start the Metal Gear Solid series.


Please man, no matter what you do, STAY THE FUK AWAY FROM THAT PIECE OF SHIT, play te original PS game, its much much better, if you are interested in MGS4 and you want to get into the storyline i would suggest getting the PS MGS, then MGS 2 Substance, you may not like the game but please trust me, it gets real good at the end, and skip MGS3 Snake Eater and buy MGS3 Subsistance instead, that way you get the original MG ad the super awesome MG: Solid Snake.

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 25, 2007 20:25

Please man, no matter what you do, STAY THE FUK AWAY FROM THAT PIECE OF SHIT, play te original PS game, its much much better, if you are interested in MGS4 and you want to get into the storyline i would suggest getting the PS MGS, then MGS 2 Substance, you may not like the game but please trust me, it gets real good at the end, and skip MGS3 Snake Eater and buy MGS3 Subsistance instead, that way you get the original MG ad the super awesome MG: Solid Snake


Like i said Marink, Twin Snakes is hated but people who loved the first game, but its a better start than the PS game, since its awefully dated to play now!

Id go with twin snakes, there arent any bugs, the art direction is a bit different though!

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RE: Mg4 in game pics - Jul 26, 2007 04:56
How confusing, lol (OMG! I said lol on an internet forum! That' s not like me...).

I guess I' ll go with Twin Snakes if it has a few extras. I' ve already bought Snake Eater (I kinda wish I didn' t now) a while ago with Pro Evo 4 because it was a good deal (in Woolworths), but I just haven' t played it yet because I want the others (of course). Thanks anyway.
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