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Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 05:21
http://www.superplay.se/nyheter/article143072.ece

They basically say that RObbie bach admitted that all 12 million units sold has hardware faults and might brake sooner or later.

Basically there is no diffrence between your 360 or someone who has his braken.


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What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 05:33
Then all those stupid idiots calling 100% rate of failure werent wrong???, Shit,what on earth is going on at Microsoft??? first Halo 3 looks like shit, then Moore goes to EA, then no XO 07, then no online co-op for halo and now this???

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 05:58
I say : bring Sega back ;) This generation needs some more old school console makers. Companies that have gaming and consoles as their main goal and not a side business.

But seriously, stuff like this shouldn' t happen on such a massive scale. So Microsoft will put down more money now to fix this? Some extra hundreds of millions of euro' s gone. If I were them I would' ve given up on the console business. Have they earned anything substantial yet since they launched the Xbox?


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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 06:13
THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID

can' t believe MS one of the lagest companies in the world , made such a terrible amateurish mistake ... this will lead to the end of the 360, if this news spread to mainstream people, there is a little chance that they would buy a faulty console and LEAVE the ps3 aside, they might keep their money or buy a wii , but definitly not 360, if i' m not that rich i wouldn' t do it even if the warranty is extended, i don' t need any hassle... DAMN IT, when MS seems on the right track to overtake sony (i only encourage MS because i own a 360) they are blowing it away like that ... SHIT

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 06:14
My red ring of death recently returned and kept that way.. rang up MS support today, Phone on loud speaker for over an hour to no answer.

Lol ive not EVER had a console brake on me and i used most of them to death.I hardly useded my 360 and it still broke

It' s obvious it' s one badly rushed peice of junk..

I' m in thought whether to just forget the 360 altogether and spend money on the console' s that aleast do their job properly..

And hearing that the elite is prone to the same ring of death.. thats put me off even more.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 06:33
OH MY GOD! The Xbox 360 has an inordinately large failure rate?! Oh my god... Talk about shock of the year! I mean, man. I never saw this coming! I' m just... so... angry!!!!!!


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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 06:37
Sorry,he said that the red ring consoles are the same as the other console and its a internal fault in the console that could happend to other 360.

He never said they would brake sooner or later.But those 360 that broke had no diffrence in them then others though.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 07:14
I guess if it' s true and Robbie Bach did admit to this, he will be the next out of the door?

Funny how Bach sold some of his shares before the announcement of the extended warrenty though!!!!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/12/bach-sold-millions-in-microsoft-stock-in-months-before-warranty/

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 07:19
Yeah right bull shit read between the lines



I wonder why this store had the send them all back.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 07:37
MS knows it fucked up. And they are doing what they can to patch up and deal with the problem without scaring away people.

Im satisfied with the service im getting with the increased warranty, there are simply no other consoles that can compare with the games that the 360 has. The PS3 will be up there in about a year. But i could still buy two 360 with each a 3 year warranty for the same price that i would get a PS3

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 07:39

Im satisfied with the service im getting with the increased warranty, there are simply no other consoles that can compare with the games that the 360 has. The PS3 will be up there in about a year. But i could still buy two 360 with each a 3 year warranty for the same price that i would get a PS3


Aye,its sad that alot of failures leads to extended warranty but 3 years is great,and mine has been working now for 1.5 year,in fact my ps2 broke every 2nd year...
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 19, 2007 10:30

Lol ive not EVER had a console brake on me and i used most of them to death.I hardly useded my 360 and it still broke

Too bad you dont own a 360, F3.
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 00:35

Aye,its sad that alot of failures leads to extended warranty but 3 years is great,and mine has been working now for 1.5 year,in fact my ps2 broke every 2nd year...


You should buy your consoles from Norway then Quez, we get 5 year warranty, due to ' kjøpsloven' .. :)

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 00:45

fernandino: then no XO 07,


Can' t show all your new games, if you do not have consoles working to show them on.. ;)

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 00:58

Can' t show all your new games, if you do not have consoles working to show them on.. ;)


Yeah, I heard reports of loads of 360s braking during gamesshows..

Funny, ive told a few firends about my problems and their like " lol, im on my 2nd, 3rd 360 now" .

No matter what few titles i was after for 360, their nothing when you have a broken 360.

Ive left a message with MS tellin them i want a full refund as there' s no point sending me back another 360 if it' s prone to brake randomly anytime. Not that im gonna miss out anything i cant play ' Properly' on a kick-ass M+K PC, or PS3.

VF5 Vc i REALLY want but im gonna have to just wait.. (i bet SEGA will release a Patch to update the ps3 version anyway). Plus theres much better more exciting, origina,l games on my other consoles.. Mario Galaxy being the one to beat. Coming out Next month too, Cannot wait!!
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 01:02
Was I right or was I right?

At least MS extended the warrenty to three years since purchase for everyone. I' m assuming that means they' ll repolace it with a working unit, once it dies.

I originally bought mine on December 13th ' 05, so I have over a year without anything to worry about. I' m sure it will die before then. If not, I' ll kill it.

Imagine, MS has to replace 12 million junk 360' s. That means the 360' s are now costing MS more money than the PS3 for Sony because of this.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 01:31

You should buy your consoles from Norway then Quez, we get 5 year warranty, due to ' kjøpsloven' .. :)

The only problem might be that things are usually more expensive in Norway. I don' t know if it' s the same for consoles. And since Norway isn' t part of the EU it might be considered to be import by the customs. So this means extra money to the customs and extra VAT on top of everything.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 01:47
mm Norway charge most money around the world for everything,even surpassed tokyo.
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 01:53


Ive left a message with MS tellin them i want a full refund as there' s no point sending me back another 360 if it' s prone to brake randomly anytime.


Good luck with that

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 02:09

mm Norway charge most money around the world for everything,even surpassed tokyo.


Don' t focus on the negatives, look at the positive.
Not initial price cost, but the 5 year waranty - future proof consoles ftw. :-)
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 03:18

Yeah, I heard reports of loads of 360s braking during gamesshows..

Funny, ive told a few firends about my problems and their like " lol, im on my 2nd, 3rd 360 now" .

No matter what few titles i was after for 360, their nothing when you have a broken 360.

Ive left a message with MS tellin them i want a full refund as there' s no point sending me back another 360 if it' s prone to brake randomly anytime. Not that im gonna miss out anything i cant play ' Properly' on a kick-ass M+K PC, or PS3.

VF5 Vc i REALLY want but im gonna have to just wait.. (i bet SEGA will release a Patch to update the ps3 version anyway). Plus theres much better more exciting, origina,l games on my other consoles.. Mario Galaxy being the one to beat. Coming out Next month too, Cannot wait!!


I think the Boy is ignoring me, but im gonna reply anyway.

Its the first time iv heard anyone complain about the lineup for the 360, which is clearly better than the other two consoles. If Ms fixes your problem its kinda silly being upset about it.

ill avoid using fanboy this time.... oh wait, i just did!
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 03:39
you guys didnt peice this together when people are reporting on their 11th broken 360?
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 04:27

But i could still buy two 360 with each a 3 year warranty for the same price that i would get a PS3


Why make such a fanboyish comment. A) you would have to buy two cores, not pro' s, so that comparison isn' t very good considering a core is gonna end up costing as much as an elite if you get it a decently sized HD (120GB), or $350 if you get it a tiny 20GB. So considering a 360 without an HD is really a stupid idea, I don' t think any real gamer would want one.

Second. A 3 year warranty is good if you are buying one today, but if you bought an old one, all it means is that you 360 will last you 3 years since you bought it, and then hit the bricks after and make you buy another. Unless they figure out how to actually fix em, which so far hasn' t happened.

So please. Stop defending the 360' s hardware. It' s built like shit, the core is even shittier, and they haven' t figured out how to fix it yet.

If you wanna look at it in a favorable light, just talk about the software, because thats where the 360 shines, more so than the ps3 and way more than the wii. I love the 360' s game lineup, especially what is to come, but I don' t understand how anyone can defend them hardware wise.

They fucked up badly, they admit it, most people admit it. Everything they do now is to try and rectify that, which will still never be better than having actually made high quality consoles in the first place.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 04:28
Yer, i read that before, that guy has patience indeed.
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 04:29
That was in regard to:

you guys didnt peice this together when people are reporting on their 11th broken 360?
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 04:31

They ***ed up badly, they admit it, most people admit it. Everything they do now is to try and rectify that, which will still never be better than having actually made high quality consoles in the first place.


Fucked up Big time, i wonder how long it would be untill they officially recall all consoles back.

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 04:33

Why make such a fanboyish comment. A) you would have to buy two cores, not pro' s, so that comparison isn' t very good considering a core is gonna end up costing as much as an elite if you get it a decently sized HD (120GB), or $350 if you get it a tiny 20GB. So considering a 360 without an HD is really a stupid idea, I don' t think any real gamer would want one.

Second. A 3 year warranty is good if you are buying one today, but if you bought an old one, all it means is that you 360 will last you 3 years since you bought it, and then hit the bricks after and make you buy another. Unless they figure out how to actually fix em, which so far hasn' t happened.

So please. Stop defending the 360' s hardware. It' s built like shit, the core is even shittier, and they haven' t figured out how to fix it yet.

If you wanna look at it in a favorable light, just talk about the software, because thats where the 360 shines, more so than the ps3 and way more than the wii. I love the 360' s game lineup, especially what is to come, but I don' t understand how anyone can defend them hardware wise.

They ***ed up badly, they admit it, most people admit it. Everything they do now is to try and rectify that, which will still never be better than having actually made high quality consoles in the first place.


Please refrain from calling me a fanboy. There is truth in what i stated, i can get two 360' ies fro the price of a PS3, yeah they are core but i already have a hard drive. Also i wouldnt need anymore space than 20 GB, why would I?

I didnt defend the hardware, its annoying as hell, but MS are doing what they can to rectify their mistake.

You can choose to ignore parts of my initial post in order to justify using the fanboy word, but let me high light some parts of my original post. Check the bold faces passages!


MS knows it ***ed up. And they are doing what they can to patch up and deal with the problem without scaring away people.

Im satisfied with the service im getting with the increased warranty, there are simply no other consoles that can compare with the games that the 360 has. The PS3 will be up there in about a year. But i could still buy two 360 with each a 3 year warranty for the same price that i would get a PS3



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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 05:04
Just wanted to point out that the News are, in fact, BS. They are based on this news here: http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=85600&src=site-marq which are simply the extended warranty news with some spin. So actually No, Bach never said something like all 360s suck. Sorry haters ;/

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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 11:03

Unless they figure out how to actually fix em, which so far hasn' t happened.


I read somewhere that they' ve already started putting the 65 nanometers in the 360' s going into repair, but they wont start putting the 65 nm' s in the consoles on the shelves till November, Im not sure if its true or not, but the 360 I just got back is running much better than my previous one, but even if they are Im not sure if thats even supposed to fix the problem. I' ll try to find the link.
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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 20, 2007 13:32
100% defective.

I did tell you, and you chose not to listen.


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RE: Bad news for MS and 360...well customers! - Jul 21, 2007 07:22
I heard about this article earlier this week. So the point is a 360 will eventually malfunction sometime...go figure that' s why there isn' t a " stable " Windows operating system...else there wouldn' t be need for anything else and MS = no money.
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