Nintendo E3 Conference

I' m not happy. I feel like Nintendo have kicked me in the nuts.

Really.

***ing.

Hard.

Yeah, im about to spit them out as well, Fuck nintendo, Gamecube was better than this piece of shit!

I just thought of a new slogan for wii: " Wii, the no games gaming console."

" Tired of wasting money on overpriced consoles and expensive games? Well do we have the system for you!? With our patented cost cutting techniques of recycling old hardware, you can have this innovative system for only $249.99. But hey that' s not all, if you act now you can save a fortune on games...because we don' t fucking have any!"

I just thought of a new slogan for wii: " Wii, the no games gaming console."

" Tired of wasting money on overpriced consoles and expensive games? Well do we have the system for you!? With our patented cost cutting techniques of recycling old hardware, you can have this innovative system for only $249.99. But hey that' s not all, if you act now you can save a fortune on games...because we don' t ***ing have any!"

The sad thing is, the strategy wont fail, and sony and ms might follow suit, and make the old school gamers extinct, or maybe PC games will get a resurgance (but fuck i cant afford a new MB, CPU, GPU, and a Physics accelerator!

lol Why are you so angry Vx?


For Someone who has not shown any enthusiasm towards the great Games like, MK, Mario Galaxy, Nights, No more Heros, Metrd ETC, i find it strange that you seem more bothered about Nintendo' s Non-game success' s

Just sell your Wii (if u really have one) and let some family enjoy it. No doubt in the near Future it' ll be Paired up with a Wii Mat.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

Nintendo' s new slogan for 2007-2008:

Now that we have all of the money, you all can go F*** yourself if you actually think you' re going to get anything else out of us.




I mean WTF was that!!!!!!!!! Ok, when the Wii first came out, yeah I will admit that it was something new with the control and all. But now, there is absolutly nothing new or creative or exciting about the Wii. All we are going to get is a handful of Mario games, and the rest are going to either be crappy party games, or games that simply should be left on the DS(I' m talking about you Brain Age).

Nintendo has done a fantastic job of reaching the casual gamers, and bringing in new gamers. But are these people really going to be the consumer you want? The casual and new gamers they have brought in are not going to buy 10-15 games a year!!!! At most they may buy 1-2 games a year, and that' s most likely going to be them going out to buy every Wii Sports sequel, Mario Party game, or a rehashed version of Brain Age or Big Brain Academy!!!!!!

If you really look at it, Nintendo isn' t even putting any of that money they are making into their product. As was said before, the Wii Zapper, a god damn piece of plastic, and that can almost be said for every other little peripheral they have come out with for the Wii. How about putting some of that money to use on a decent online service Reggie?

Anyway, sorry for ranting but come on now!!!!!!!!! F*****G do something already!!!!! You can ride that little control of yours for so long before Sony and M$ catch up. Remember Nintendo, we have millions of PS2 owners still waiting to see which next-gen console they are going to buy.

This rant has been brought to you today by the letters F and U.

That post really confuses me???

What did you expect from Nintendo Wii?
Don' t you own a 360 or PS3?

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

First of all:

People complaining about lack of ' Hardcore' Wii games are thick, Where have you been since the last two years?? FFS you should know Nintendo Directions are totally different than the other two companies..

The Show

Alot of blowing their own trumpet, but the risks they took they deserve too, they practically fliped and now own Japan and are coming through like a speeding bullet elsewhere.

WiiFit = Nintendogs

This is where Wii is going to Take over the planet.

Go Nintendo!

So have you admitted you are f3hunter yet? I haven' t been on the boards much for the last few months, and am only getting back on em now thanks to e3 and the ridiculous amounts of good games to talk about.


Seriously, you talk the exact same way, and have kept your " Nintendo is going to take over" phrase.

Nintendo showed nothing at e3 that has made me want their console, and when it first came out, I thought for sure I would purchase one in late 2007.

Now it looks like I' m just gonna save all my cash for the 360 elite, and all the games I' m gonna want for the 360 and ps3. Sure I will miss out on Mario and metroid, but instead I will get Uncharted, Halo 3, GTA 4, Unreal 3, Killzone 2, MGS4, Littlebiplanet!, Warhawk, Lair, Assasins Creed, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Call of Duty motherfucking 4, Army of Two, Ratchet and Clank, and more I' m probably forgetting. Not to mention good sports games running in full HD at high FPS(NHL fuck yes, and maybe some football *both kinds)

So tell me. After Sony' s show of whats coming, and MS basically reminding of us of all the great stuff they have and have already announced, what does Nintendo have coming to make me decide not to buy those amazing games I' ve listed, and throw down some cash on their console and games.

Oh, and I just though of this, wii-mote $50 CAD, Nunchuck $25 CAD, Wii-Zapper $20 - $25 CAD. $100 for a flipping FPS remote that doesn' t even have lithium rechargable batteries included? Gimme a break. And don' t say " oh, well its a gun, unlike other systems" If guns were so damn important to FPS, they would have adopted the light guns years ago.

First of all, I own ALL three consoles and a PC.

Im looking Forward to games on ALL plattforms.

I Love and have mastered the MOST hardcore games Like VF4/5, Ikaruga, GTR to Pin-point Q3: Threewave ETC.

I also REALLY respect and enjoy NON-games Like Wario ware, Brainage, ECT.

So don' t try and label me taste to one thing, mine are much broader than yours!


Im really happy to see Nintendo survive and bounce back from Potential Death and glad that they have found their own path and own ideas, I much rather a E3 with Mass Effect, MGS4, Mario Galaxy AND Wii Fitness than an E3 with just Mass Effect, MGS4, Mario Galaxy. Understood?

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

I' m not saying Nintendo doesn' t deserve to exist, what I' m saying is that they offer next to nothing to try and pull me away from the 10+ titles that I will definitely buy for 360 and ps3.

Don' t gimme the " my tastes are so much broader" speach. I owned all Nintendo' s consoles up to the Cube, and have owned consoles from the Turbo Graffix, SNES, Genesis to the Saturn, ps1/2/3, Xbox(soon 360) and gameboys. I' ve played the Wii a lot, and it has yet to give me a reason to buy one other than Virtual Console. But remember, I own all the old consoles and most of the old games I want, and when I don' t, I have an emulator on my PC.

So yes, Nintendo deserves to be around, but they got way to much credit over the last 7 months since the ps3 and Wii launch, and even after all this money and hype, they can barely deliver anything.

lol Why are you so angry Vx?


For Someone who has not shown any enthusiasm towards the great Games like, MK, Mario Galaxy, Nights, No more Heros, Metrd ETC, i find it strange that you seem more bothered about Nintendo' s Non-game success' s

Just sell your Wii (if u really have one) and let some family enjoy it. No doubt in the near Future it' ll be Paired up with a Wii Mat.

Angry and dissapointed is two different things. I was hoping to get some prime games with the Wii. More so than with the gamecube since the wii is going strong, and the gamecube wasnt.

Sure thing we will get Mario Galaxy, it looks good, but im not the greatest fan of mario. (blame my parents they never got me a nintendo).

Ofcourse the Wii might get more good games of the next couple of years, but since nothing intresting is shown at this e3 it makes me doubt the next 2 years.

Im glad that WiiFit is what you need to have a good fun with your Wii VF, but i need more stuff to get my rocks off. Nintendo Wii is a major dissapointed, both in hardware and in software§

Since you have made it clear u dont like Games like Brain age ETC, ive already broadend your tastes

So yes, Nintendo deserves to be around, but they got way to much credit over the last 7 months since the ps3 and Wii launch, and even after all this money and hype, they can barely deliver anything.

Anything? Give an example of something then? What tiles you would have liked to see at the Nintendo Conference?

Im glad that WiiFit is what you need to have a good fun with your Wii VF, but i need more stuff to get my rocks off. Nintendo Wii is a major dissapointed, both in hardware and in software§

In addition with my Non-games, So do i! But thats why i own a 360 / Ps3/ Pc!

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

In addition with my Non-games, So do i! But thats why i own a 360 / Ps3/ Pc!

i own a console to get great games, not mediocre rehashed bullshit! Ill get a Ps3 when i can afford it, looks like it can offer way more than nintendo can this gen!

I think you need to just burn your wii and save your money for traditional (but great) looking 360 games.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

I think you need to just burn your wii and save your money for traditional (but great) looking 360 games.

Like i said, im glad you like your Wii so much, but your kinda out numbered here on this forum.

I prefer good games as apposed to playing the same mini games over and over again.

I really would applaud nintendo if they actually had had something to show!

I think its obvious that the majority of people on these forums have 360' s. So i knew from the get go that as a Nintendo fan i would be outnumbered - doesn' t concern me either way, i like the odds. Besides look at the first couple of comments. Its like everyone is in line to take a swipe at how Nintendo ain' t catering for the hardcore crowd, how lame it is blah blah blah - the usually comments for any Nintendo news as i have become acustomed to.

Virtua has already made it clear, Nintendo has gone a different direction with the Wii, and it never ceases to amaze me people still lumping it in the same lot as the 360 & ps3. Its NOT THE SAME. Its funny how people here say due to the graphical limitations of the Wii its not in the same class as the ps3 or 360, and yet it must have the same types of games in order to be considered a viable platform. Wii fit is the perfect example of how the Wii is meant to change the face of gaming. Because it doesn' t include, guns or killing etc hardcore gamers are going to instantly ridicule it. Sad really, for a console codenamed ' revolution' did you expect Nintendo to take the same route as 360 or ps3?

Again i stress for those that for ' hardcore gamers' the 360 and ps3 are more suitable for gaming. But if you wanted more, and something different & unique the Wii makes a solid secondary console (The casual gamer will probably go for the Wii on price and uniqueness alone). Its that simple, although SSBB, SMG and Metriod Prime should be more then adequate to satisfy some if not all of a hardcore gamers needs. All little bit of perspective wouldn' t hurt once in a while.

According to Nintendo of Europe:

Wii Schedule:

Big Brain Academy for Wii (Nintendo) 20th July 2007
Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Nintendo / Atlus) 10th August 2007
Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) 14th September 2007
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption (Nintendo) 26 October 2007
Forever Blue (tentative title) (Nintendo)
(US title: Endless Ocean) Q4 2007
Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) Q4 2007
Battalion Wars 2 (Nintendo) Q4 2007
Resident Evil The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom) Q4 2007
Pokémon Battle Revolution (Nintendo) Q4 2007
Wii Fitness (Nintendo) 2008
Mario Kart Wii (tentative title) (Nintendo) 2008
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) 2008

Nintendo DS schedule:

Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo) 13th July 2007
Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl (Nintendo) 27th July 2007
Freshly Picked - Tingle' s Rosy Rupeeland (Nintendo) 14th September 2007
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) 19 October 2007
Donkey Kong Jungle Climber (Nintendo) October 2007
Naruto DS (Nintendo) October 2007
English Training 2 (tentative title) (Nintendo) October 2007
Mario Party DS (Nintendo) Q4 2007
Vision Training (tentative title) (Nintendo)
(US title: Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day) Q4 2007
Advance Wars 2 (Nintendo) Q4 2007

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Nintendo just needs to work a little bit more of their Nintendo magic that made their other systems so fantastic. That' s it, I' m getting myself a PAL N64 over here!

I don' t think Nintendo has a lack of hardcore games for their consoles. But they lack quality hardcore games for people who want to spend more than just a few minutes during a play session. Which is kinda crazy because to me, Nintendo has always been about quality.
Their casual games have some quality but that' s not the stuff harcore gamers mostly want, even though we can enjoy those kind of games.
Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart and SSBB are the only games that seem to have all the key ingredienses needed for a good Wii game: innovation, quality, harcore appeal.

Sad really, for a console codenamed ' revolution' did you expect Nintendo to take the same route as 360 or ps3?

No i expected a revolution, but got a gimmick periphial that could just as easily have been released on the Gamecube.

Nintendo always made great games, but its just very sad when there are no more than 3 to spot over the next 12 months.

Instead they are going to make the money on useless periphials like WiiFit which will sit under the bed like any other workout equipment people use!

People, as long as the wii doesn' t get my beloved franchises and AAA titles from major developers like ubisoft, capcom and such I would Have no problem with this console, in fact i encourage it and you all people should if what i said in the begining is true... Let the wii target that segment market, let it introduce Gaming to more masses, one day that person will like to find out more about games, ok i played mario party, or wii sport... how about that game called Metroid prime , i' ll give it a try ....

if that Scenario happens i' ll be happy, but if developers start focusing their time and money on wii games, specialy party games and start leaving ps3 or 360, i' ll be very upset and i' ll blame nintendo for killing my hobby.

years ago i started to hate Nintendo for being the must stuborn company in this industry and the greediest one. that is my opinion about it.

N64 was a mediocre console even if it has around 10 huuuge blockbusters. limited by its carts and extremly weak 3rd party support.

Gamecube follows the same thing, even the support was not the standard in the industry, weak 3rd party support, few AAA titles, no online...

Wii seems even worse from a HARDCORE point of view, outdated graphics for its time, Extremly few AAA titles: present and futur.

AND please Nintendo , lower your fucking price to 200$, 250 is too much for this console, you want to introduce gamng to masses, then lower your price, even hardcore gamers will buy it.

I want Wii walking in a park. And then Wii working with Wii money, then I want Wii Vacation, then Wii Children, then Wii Retirement, and last but not least Wii Funeral

Wii Funeral

ROFL

I' d like to know exactly what people think would be considered a ' revolution' in gaming? Updating graphics is status quo. It happens every generation. I thought that changing the control scheme that has persisted for almost a decade comes close to constituting a ' revolution' .

Yes i won' t deny having only 3 high profile games this year is a little disheartening but with the Wiis success i have no doubts that more and more developers will start developing AAA exclusives for the Wii. If a ' generic' developer for EA can put out a product like The Godfather for the Wii that makes good use of the Wiimotes motion controls then what more for better developers - Good use of motion control and respectable graphics to boot - that is a distinct possibility, and a senario i am looking forward too.

I think currently the criticisms about the current library, the Wiis hardware limitations and Nintendos poorly implemented online strategy are warranted - i cannot deny this. But its still early in the Wii' s life. Had we had this discussion a year from now i would me more inclined to believe you, but its still early days. Writing the Wii off as merely a mini game console before its full potential is realised is pretty sad. There is so much that can be done with the Wii if developers give it the time and effort it deserves. Its to bad most of you can' t see the potential that i and some others here see in it.

IVe give up on trying to stand up for Wii TBH..

The way i look at it is this..

" Todays new casual gamers are tomorrows hardcore gamers"


In other words, let these New casual gamers speak for the Wii, cos in time they will.

When it comes to the end of the Wii' s Life cylcle and on the look for a new console their surely not gonna settle for a standard Dual-shock Medium, thats for sure.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

for the Wii that makes good use of the Wiimotes motion controls then what more for better developers - Good use of motion control and respectable graphics to boot - that is a distinct possibility, and a senario i am looking forward too.

I still dont see the motion control as superior controls, while good for some games, mouse and gamepad are still superior for others. And it takes a lot more than good controls for a game to be great.

Yeah, a lot of people, especially developers it seems, thinks the Wii-mote automatically makes a game good.
They don' t realise that they can' t do games they way they' ve done games in the past. The core gameplay has to change along with the controls in order to get good results. But right now we' ve mostly seen normal games with Wii-mote control.

Well, the DS didnt have that many wonderful games to begin with (although I imported it with Mario 64 DS for a slight hint of nostalgia- me being a retro lover and all), but as time went on it got Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime Hunters, Jump Superstars/Ultimate Stars, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, Phoenix Wright, etc. Soon it will be receiving huge titles like Dragon Quest IX, Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings and Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. So there could still be hope yet.

Yes, hope is all we have left. Let' s cling onto that.
Like Sam says in the Lord of the rings, the stories we remember are the ones where the heroes kept fighting even though all seemed lost... This is one of those stories

Well, the DS didnt have that many wonderful games to begin with (although I imported it with Mario 64 DS for a slight hint of nostalgia- me being a retro lover and all), but as time went on it got Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime Hunters, Jump Superstars/Ultimate Stars, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, Phoenix Wright, etc. Soon it will be receiving huge titles like Dragon Quest IX, Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings and Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. So there could still be hope yet.

Exactly right, and if people remember which DS title instantly Spring-boarded DS as a serious plattform to develop for, IT was Nintendogs ..

Wiifit = Nintendogs + plus a rather great peripheral to boot.

As ive been saying, this time next year hardcore Wii games should be in a much more, realised and better state.

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

Nintendogs didn' t require anything more than a DS and it used the DS functions in really good ways. It' s one of the games that proves the DS is awesome for everyone.
How exactly does the Wii Fit peripheral prove the Wii-mote or the Wii itself is good?
Doesn' t it appear to be quite the opposite? The Wii-mote can' t handle everything so when Nintendo wants to make a new kind of game they have to make another peripheral.

I never made it clear, sorry

Forget about the technical terms of Nintendogs or the Balance Board im talking about a games appeal of drawing millions of customers. Nintendogs caused a crazy stir and excelled the DS' s status, drawing attention from not only Gamers but also Publishers / developers. This lead to DS eventually having some great original titles and hardcore titles in the mix.

I predict Wii fitness' s Appeal could be even greater than Nintendogs was..

Currently playing:
Korg DS 10 (ds) /  Metal Slug 7 (ds)
Rhythm Heaven (ds) /  Fire Emblem (ds)
Super Stardust HD (psn) /  Virtua Fighter 5 (360)
FSX (P

EyeToy, Guitar Hero and SingStar are examples of previous successful peripherals, so I guess the Wii Fit could very well be a success too.

Virtua Fighter , it seems you don' t unerstand the problem that many gamers see, If nintendo succeed to be the leader of this generation, then Hardcore gamer are afraid that developers will start focusing on this console instead of the 360 and ps3. Those hardcore gamers are not impressed by hte wii mote so far and they are just happy with traditional control. Gamers are afraid that developers will see this as a very good opportunity to make good and quick money, therefore decreasing the budget and Human ressources to serious games that was coming to the other platforms and releasing soma party games on wii.... even if they release an AAA titles , people will say if only that was on ps3 or 360, it could have been better (probably)

I don' t think developers can afford losing the hardcore crowd. It' s bigger than you' d think. The graphic whores are also too many to ignore. They have to make hardcore games because the non-gamer market will never be big enough to fill the gap.

Nintendo is appealing to the mass market, and in process they are loosing the hardcore gamers and the graphic whores so to speak.

Nintendogs didnt appeal to me, i have a real pet and thats way nicer. WiiFit wont appeal to me, ill go to a bloody gym.

Just because something sells well doesnt make it great, the casual gamers are buying a gimmick not something to relay deep entertainment, which is what i like in my games!

If this is what Nintendo had to offer to us gamers then " bye bye Nintendo! forever.
Im clearly not longer a potential buyer,I was before but now I realise Nintendo doesnt develop games for us who grew up with them.

AAA titles and epic games are all coming to 360+ps3 wiifitnes is something my mom might play for like 10 min per day,but how many games does she pay per year?

Nintendo may get non gamers to get the wii,but the games will hardly sell on it,as with 360 and ps3.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I think that the Wii will have games that appeal to so called " hardcore" gamers. A better term would be " conservative gamers" but whatever.
Games like Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, a new F-Zero, and all their other famous franchises along with some itneresting third party games will make the Wii worth buying. Those games are going to be awesome, I have no doubts about this.
But it' s still sad because those games might' ve been even better with more powerful hardware. I mean seriously, if the Wii would' ve been as powerful as the 360 or the PS3 it would easily be the best choice of console.
The 360 and the PS3 will get games with innovated gameplay through powerful hardware, games the Wii will never be able to give us.

Metroid prime,mario galax,fzero and Super smash bros sounds like fun games.

But when you compare it to for ex what 360 gets now like...

HAlo3,Mass effect,Fallout3,Orange(HL2 e2),Alan wake,Resident evil 5,Too human,Pgr4,Dmc4,NG2,Splinter cell convict,Blue dragon,Lost odyssey,Gears of war 2,Kingdom under fire,infinty discovery,Eternal sonata,naruto rise of a ninja,Fable2 and Assassins creed etc then it looks very bleak.


And yes you could certainly probably mentioned more wii titles then three,but I could certainly also mentioned more titles for 360 too.

Its just...bad being a normal gamer and having a wii atm.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Yes, in all honesty it does look bleak by comparance.
But not bleak enough to keep me from buying the Wii
A TRUE gamer goes where the fun is, a true gamer can buy a console for a single game. I can buy the Wii for Metroid Prime.
Oh shit, forgot that it' s called the " Metroid Prime 3 Machine" . Yeah it' s officiall, just visit Nintendo' s officiall website and it says " Wii renamed after the greatest game in history, it is now called the Metroid Prime 3 Machine" .

SOURCE

I dislike Metroid serie for a number of reasons,but my brother loved them and finished Metroid prime on the Gamecube.

But sure that game could be an AAA title but didn' t u see that girl playing it?
They claimed she could aim just as good as with a mouse and keyboard well...then she must really suck with a keyboard´mouse cause she didn' t look to be in any control at all.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

She had problems but she might' ve been nervous with millions of people watching her. I would freeze to death on that stage .
When IGN tried the control ages ago they said it was amazing, almost as good as mouse and keyboard.
So I have faith in the controls. Instead, what I fear is that they' ll make a regular action FPS instead of the adventure game I' ve loved. The same fear many fans had when they saw the first Metroid Prime.