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Abasoufiane
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Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 07:29
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21016.aspx


i don' t know is this is CGI or 3d but looks better to me than gears of war or at least as good but on massive scale , which is freaking scary.


CGI OR INGAME ? or fifty fifty

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 07:46
The city looks like that real time too,the rest CGI.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 08:21
yes the landcape look real time, but it doesn' t make sense the characters look the same indoors or outdoors.. u got me ?


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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 08:32
They did really well with the characters, although the one in red looks like the prince in the shrek movie

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 09:09
It switches from CG to realtime at 1:43 and no, the realtime stuff does not look as good as Gears of War.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 09:45
you' re right nitro, don' t know how i couldn' t notice the difference, still the ingame has very impressive graphics for that scale.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 10:24
The difference is pretty big between the two, but if animation in the rest of the FMVs is as tight as it is in this one, I' m not sure I' ll mind full CGI video that much at all.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 11:00


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane

you' re right nitro, don' t know how i couldn' t notice the difference, still the ingame has very impressive graphics for that scale.


Yeah the scale seems to be a big talking point, as do the lighting and the water effects.

I really like Factor 5. The Rogue games were amongst my favourite last-gen and i had hoped Lair would be just as impressive as they were then. Buuuuuut, their decision to force SixAxis control has pissed me off. The only game that i' ve felt that it works with is PSN game flOw, and i get bored of that after about 2 minutes. They should have inclued analog control as an option, just like Warhawk (which is awesome).

Other than that, the games texture quality, animations and framerate could be better. They' re pushing for 1080p native and the scale of the game means the textures won' t be as detailed as games like Gears, ...but that' s the same situation and developer working on a game with vast environments faces, ...look at the Ace Combat 6 gameplay footage or Oblivion for examples.

Lair is still promising but i want analog control.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 12:36
The SixAxiS Motion-Sensing doesn' t seem to work as well as the Wii' s, so let' s hope they decide to put in the analogue. I should think that the frame-rate and animation quality should round off as it gets closer to release.
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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 15:39

The SixAxiS Motion-Sensing doesn' t seem to work as well as the Wii' s, so let' s hope they decide to put in the analogue. I should think that the frame-rate and animation quality should round off as it gets closer to release.


Yeah motion control should have died when MS tried it in the 90' ies, it doesnt work, and isnt fun!

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 16:28

Yeah motion control should have died when MS tried it in the 90' ies, it doesnt work, and isnt fun!


Yeah but its fun to watch people try to do it and fun to screw around and prolly lots of fun when you sre drunk.


This game looks fun.
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69962155jn7.png

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 16:32
Definetly, you should use links ot pics, much easier

just get the source of the picture file, click Image, and then insert!! ohh and get yourself a avatar!

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 17:38
I tried but it looked shitty every time I tried so I just stuck with a link. And I am trying to get an avatar but Adam seems to be ignoring me and when I tried to make one of the default ones it wouldn' t work so any suggestions?









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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 18:09
Mmmmm not really :P

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 21:04
Considering the control in Warhawk is infinitely enhanced by SixAxis, I' d assume the decision to go with it over analog was a good decision by Factor 5.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 21:46

Considering the control in Warhawk is infinitely enhanced by SixAxis, I' d assume the decision to go with it over analog was a good decision by Factor 5.



not having choices is always bad!

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 21:57
aren' t the anaog used for something else ? if so that would be good otherwise it' s plain stupid to not leave the choice.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 28, 2007 23:58
lair looks cool and good.

doesnt look AAA but might be a 9/10 game.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 01:30

And I am trying to get an avatar but Adam seems to be ignoring me and when I tried to make one of the default ones it wouldn' t work so any suggestions?




Sorry couldnt resist a chris benoit joke

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 02:35
Kills his wife, kid & then himself. The man had the rock-star lifestyle while moonlighting as a gay club-fighter... I mean... wrestler.

Oh yeah, Torr. Did you hit APPLY after selecting an avatar? That' s the only way they work.
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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 03:34

Kills his wife, kid & then himself. The man had the rock-star lifestyle while moonlighting as a gay club-fighter... I mean... wrestler.


I think they' re making dumb excuses for him now. I think they said his kid had some type of disease called Fragile X syndrome? And that it drove him to insanity

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 11:29

not having choices is always bad!


Regression to inferior choices is worse, actually. Factor 5 did not put in SixAxis controls to be dumbfucks. I' m sure the game is playable/enjoyable without analog flippery.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 22:54
Dont know if this is posted already but now this looks good:

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/video-exclu-2-petite-viree-en-enfer-video-39262.aspx
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 29, 2007 23:33

Regression to inferior choices is worse, actually. Factor 5 did not put in SixAxis controls to be dumb***s. I' m sure the game is playable/enjoyable without analog flippery.

Actually, multiple previews have all agreed that the SIXAXIS function feels clunky and less responsive than an analog stick. Supposedly their current application of the accellerometers in the controller make it a bit drifty. Kind of like having the accelerate feature set to on on a PC mouse.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 30, 2007 08:30

Actually, multiple previews have all agreed that the SIXAXIS function feels clunky and less responsive than an analog stick. Supposedly their current application of the accellerometers in the controller make it a bit drifty. Kind of like having the accelerate feature set to on on a PC mouse.


Well, I' m not going to contest that, but most everybody who has played Warhawk agrees that Sixaxis motion sense is the best way to go. If Factor 5 fucks it up, then fuck them.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jun 30, 2007 11:25
Now that I can agree with. They' re too good to trash a game with a simple control cock-up.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 01, 2007 20:19
I always had very high hopes for LAIR and i can say that quite easily is the most impressive game i' ve ever seen in consoles tech wise, the amount of stuff going on is insane and everything in 1080p native with 7.1 channels, even tho the gameplay looks repetitive the stellar plot and music should more than make up for it.

Finally comparing this game with Gears of Wars is just stupid, Gears is like one endless corridor completely linear and with very few enemys on screen, in LAIR you have hundreds on enemys on screen at once and a huge landscape with the ability to go anywhere you want, this game is just beyond impressive from a technical stanpoint and it looks fantastic cant wait to get my hands on it as with Heavenly Sword,they both look insane.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 01, 2007 20:34
I dunno when people say other parts of the game make up for the gameplay, if the gameplay is bad, nothing will make up for it and it will be a bad game.
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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 01, 2007 21:36
I never said the gameplay was bad,i said it looks repetitive at times, but maybe not since we still haven' t seen the whole lot of moves your dragon will gain with time, besides, for me at least, a great, well based plot means a lot more than gameplay,thats why i cant stand playing online for a very long time.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 03:55
Repetitive = Bad

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 04:11

Repetitive = Bad


Truth, if theres no variation in the hundreds of enemies or square miles, then it might as well be one long corridor.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 07:14
To be fair most of the games are repetitive then, especially FPS, and i said IT LOOKS REPETITIVE but we dont know for sure yet.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 07:21
Cinematic games tend to be less repetative, ...but they also tend to be shorter...

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 09:27

To be fair most of the games are repetitive then, especially FPS, and i said IT LOOKS REPETITIVE but we dont know for sure yet.

There' s a difference between a repetitive game-mechanic and a repetitive game.

How many years have RPGs been using the same Attack/Defend/Magic/Flee system? Only recently have developers really branched out into different methods. However the game itself isn' t repetitive because it can approach a stale formula from a different angle.

Oh, and for the record, the airborn combat is supposed to be fantastic. The ground-based combat is supposed to be clunky, akward & slow. Or at least that' s what it was like in the Beta build.

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RE: Lair unbelievable graphics ! - Jul 02, 2007 15:14
This is another games I am definatelyt adding to my pro PS3 list but I guess I will have to drool longingly and dream of my Halo3 and COD4(when I get them/come out) but that and the whole 360 breaking crap is defiantely making the PS3 more and more appealing but I still can' t get over the price.