Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote!

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Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 10, 2007 19:49

WATCH TRAILER AND VOTE HERE

I voted:
Characters - VF5
Fighting - VF5
Stages - VF5
Modes - DOA4
Graphics - VF5
Presentation - VF5
Overall - VF5
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The score when I last checked

....................Dead or Alive 4...Virtua Fighter 5

Characters.....68.4%...............31.5%

Fighting..........47.2%...............52.7%

Stages...........74.1%...............25.8%

Modes............72.3%...............27.6%

Graphics........27.8%................72.1%

Presentation...58.1%...............41.8%

Overall..........57.5%...............42.4%

VOTE NOW!
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 10, 2007 20:13
I voted:

Characters - VF5
Fighting - VF5
Stages - DOA4
Modes - DOA4
Graphics - DOA4
Presentation - VF5
Overall - VF5/DOA4

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 10, 2007 22:53
In my opinion VF5 wins in two categories, and that' s gameplay and graphics,
I figured VF5 couldn' t win overall because I voted more categories for DOA4 so
voting overall for VF5, is contradictory in itself, although VF5 plays a lot better, and
that' s what counts.... Right?

Characters

I believe DOA4 has better character development, which helps what little story it
actually has, the characters are more interesting in DOA and act more like
characters than fighting machines with cheesy dialogue. VF5 has better character
design, but the word character means:

the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing.

and DOA4 has a lot more of that..... NEXT!


Fighting

VF5 hands down. Need I say more? When I play as Akira and can believe he' s the
slowest b@st@rd Japanese wannabe, Ryo Hazuki, Ryu, as can be, only to face the
A.I and for him to move as quick as Jackie Chan in his early movies... Then I
know the learning curve is steep, also, the fact that you only get to fight Dural
ONCE and if you lose it' s game over, quite frankly tells me that this is not for the
faint hearted. I thought Alpha 152 was bad, but Dural' s made of rock... Need I
say more? Also, those firm buns are a bit off-putting.


Stages

DOA4, just the thrill of kicking someone downstairs, into rivers, over chairs,
through walls, into giant symbols, disturbing monkey chatter, into clay pots,
electric rings, an everlasting Tatami mat, through hidden doors in Ninja Fortresses, through glass windows, showdowns in labratories...

VF5............... RING OUT! Exciting, no?


Modes

DOA4......

¬¬

Online.


Graphics

This was a tough one, but I voted VF5 only because of the texture detail and the
expression in character faces. DOA feels like make your own doll because you
can put the same face to all of the girls and Elliot.

Presentation

DOA4, it feels like you left the butcher shop with the right amount of meat, whereas VF5 is amazing, once you eventually delve into it, you realise there is
little next to f@ck all in it.


Overall

DOA4, it won more categories...
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 10, 2007 23:28
DoA4 is graphically nicer. VF5' s characters are too pasticky, the environment texturing is certainly " worse" and there' s noticeable aliasing.

I actually think the stages in DoA:U are the best in any fighting game so far. 4' s are almost as good but not quite.

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 00:46
I enjoyed a lot from DOA 4 but
I will vote to VF5 because it' s the best fighting game ever,,,
don' t forget that it' s coming to Xbox 360 soon!

Characters:With ignoring DOA girls I love VF5 characters...
because they remind me Shenmue characters...

Fighting:There is no doubt that a new gamer can' t beat you in VF5 if you' re a Pro.
so this is a real fighting game...real fighting experience!anyone?

Stages:Well, DOA has very interactive locations but I' ll vote to VF again!
because it has Shenmue-like locations...

Modes:Well, let' s wait for VF5 360 ...Ver C yay!

Graphics:Without any doubt VF5 has better graphics and visual elements.
VF5 is more realistic...VF5 has a richer and more convincing world,
Also character animation is stunning in VF5!

Presentation:in a close race---->VF5

Overall:VF5 won!=AM2 won!=Sega won!=>>>>>>>
but in fact Yu Suzuki won! he is the main father of VF!

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 01:19
These kinda polls are stupid.

IT turns into a 360 Fanboy VS PS3 Fanboy vote. Theres alot more 360 fans out there and Hardcore fighting fans won' t even bother voting such a poll as (like myself).


BTW, Who ever thinks DOA4 has better graphics than VF5 seriously need their eyes testing.

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 01:38
" These kinda polls are stupid."

I agree, VF5 is by far the better game regardless of any twisted grading scheme.

" IT turns into a 360 Fanboy VS PS3 Fanboy vote. Theres alot more 360 fans out there and Hardcore fighting fans won' t even bother voting such a poll as (like myself)."

A moot point since the 360 will also get VF5.


" BTW, Who ever thinks DOA4 has better graphics than VF5 seriously need their eyes testing."

Uh no, DOA4 clearly has better graphics technically speaking. Of course that doesn' t account for art direction or style. Which considering how close these two games are graphically,artistic style is more important than graphics.

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 02:05
The majority will play DOA4 for longer... Period.
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 02:07

A moot point since the 360 will also get VF5


Will also get VF5.



Uh no, DOA4 clearly has better graphics technically speaking.



WRONG:

The lightening, Texturing is much better in VF5.

Animation: VF5 no contest, Bouncing limbs, stumbles that DOA does not even include FFS.,

Graphical Effects: VF5 is much better, IE the ‘dynamic’ water and puddles in VF5 are amazingly realistic while DOA4’s are more ‘set animation’ and look and behave unrealistic and is just wrong.

Technically and art-wise VF5 Kills it.
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 02:13
My choice

Characters - VF5
Fighting - VF5
Stages - DOA4
Modes - DOA4
Graphics - VF5 techincally, but DOA4 because of personal preferances... NOT because of BOOBS![:' (]
Presentation - VF5
Overall - VF5/DOA4

Even though statistics show that I should like VF5 better than DOA4, I just cannot choose, as I find booth to be just as fun, but in different ways.
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 02:59
Might as well explain why I voted as I did.

Characters: I don' t like the exaggerated animé style characters in DOA. And the girls are just silly. The only character I actually like is Zack. VF5 has more believable characters.

Fighting: Fighting. That' s what you do in VF. I don' t know what the hell you do in DOA but it ain' t fighting. DOA is interactive animé or something.

Stages: I think the design of the stages in DOA4 is cool but I don' t like the jumping and stuff. Besides, I think the stages in VF5 are much more beautiful. I like the simple ringouts.

Modes: DOA4 has online. VF5 does not.

Graphics: I think VF5 kills DOA4 both technically and artistically.

Presentation: I think DOA has some really lame presentation. What is there to like about it?

Overall: VF5>DOA4
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 03:41
Ignor the reviews, I' m only showing these vids to showcase the graphics of both games.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17163&type=mov&pl=game
VF5

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8842&type=mov&pl=game
DOA4

I still say DOA4 has better graphics.

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 03:51
The reviews say DOA4 is better..

I can understand why.
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 03:57
Hang on f3, ...you' re seriously saying that VF5 is a " better" looking game than DoA4...





Don' t get me wrong, VF5 is a great looking game, and your point about the puddles and dynamic water is definitely true, ...but the textures, both character and environmental aren' t. That' s one area where DoA4 has a distinct advantage in the looks department.

VF5 uses hard-HDR, which looks superb if the light source is " opposite" you, but if it' s anywhere else it just looks odd. DoA4' s lighting is nothing to write home about but it' s consistent.

The character models in VF5 look better for the most part, but they' re overly shiny and have that Doom 3/PDZ plastic quality that just looks wrong, and there' s visible aliasing.

I guess from an artistic perspective VF5 floors DoA4, but that' s a taste (read opinion) thing and probably not something that needs to be discussed.

Overall with its sharper textures, crisper models, self-shadowing and more varied and complex geometry, i' d give it to DoA4.

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 04:01
Is there meant to be a VF5 screenshot in there somewhere Majik? For comparison purposes I mean...
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 04:05
Gimme a minute, i' ll get some ones that look similar from both games...

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 04:34
Okay, i think i can settle this by comparing just two very important things.

Firstly, Ninja modelling...



...both look good but the Ninja' s in DoA4 are sharper, and sharp things are good for cutting with, and when your a Ninja the sharper your cutting thing the better, ...so sharper Ninja' s = better Ninja Modelling.


...and secondly...


<_<


>_>


Breast, ....erm, modelling!? ...



...both look like breasts, but DoA4 features sharper breast modelling, and when your a pair of breasts, being sharper, ...it' s erm, ....y' know, better. Or something.

Whatever, ...Vanessa has a sweaty man-chest and is in desperate need of a shower, and La Mariposa is soft and love-doll like. Love-dolls are better than sweaty men so DoA4 wins.

Ok?

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 05:08
DOA4 is a great looking game.. dam right.. Hell, i remember arguing with some other dude on it' s behalf how much better looking it was than other PS2 titles... Hang on.. that was DOA Ultimate..

Arghh thats the thing.. I remember looking at all those nice Temco ' Picture shot friendly' Screens of DOA4 and thinking it looked pretty but... When i first seen the game in action it didn’t overly impress me (had people thinking i was playing DOA: ultimate lol)

That' s the thing, DOA4 just looks like a high res ultimate hardly any advancements in animation or models apart from obvious resolution. It' s a pretty game alright, but Vf5 is something totally different when seen in motion, technically and more of a jump from the previous.


Temco are great artists but i feel they are still working off old SEGA tools (obviously not, but shall i say, old SEGA practices).. From model 2 DOA1 through 2,3,4 they all move the same and seem to use the same physics.. Ive seen hardly any advancement in the series. They need to change this engine. It’s an old engine all glossed-up with a nice finish too it. DOA 1 on arcade and SS is still the best version (for its time).

I am playing my PS3 games via HDMI (which kills VGA/Comp) so theres an advantage for VF5 in my experiences. Everything just GLOWS and soo sharp, im amazed how better HDMI is..

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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 05:17
f3, do you still have that video of akira' s mad combo that you posted ages ago???

The one from youtube, cos I can' t find the thread, need to show a friend how much
faster VF5 can be than tekken with proper practice.
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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 05:21
Yeah, i' m connected via HDMI too, but here are still jaggies!!!!



VF5 is technically superior. That can' t be argued. The characters are higher poly, the lighting is better (mostly), the animations are superb etc, ....but it has it' s flaws. There is aliasing, something which on PS3 is hard to avoid when using normal forms of HDR lighting, the environmental textures aren' t anywhere near as sharp as they should be and the models are overly shiny.

The 360 version should fix a couple of those, most obviously the lack of FSAA.

But yeah, if VF5 was as clean and crisp as DoA4 then i' d say it' s unquestionably the better looking game. But it isn' t. DoA4 is sharper and the environments look better. Not cooler or more atmospheric, ...just more detailed.

VF5 > DoA4, for the most part, but graphically it' s hard fought because both have significant improvements over the other.

If you want a deep, kickass experience and have real-world friends, you need VF5.

If you want sharply rendered Ninjas and breasts and don' t like daylight much, you need DoA4.

































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RE: Gametrailers DOA4 VS VF5 Vote! - May 11, 2007 05:44

f3, do you still have that video of akira' s mad combo that you posted ages ago???

The one from youtube, cos I can' t find the thread, need to show a friend how much
faster VF5 can be than tekken with proper practice.


Here

And a Recent Pro VF5 match, showing the masters at work: Here
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