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Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 01, 2007 06:16
And we' re getting a PS2, XBOX, PS3, XBOX 360 crap-tastic game from Treyarch to placate everybody who doesn' t have a $2,999 gaming rig.


Fourzerotwo, IW' s community manager, has released a statement regarding the release date and platform Call of Duty 4 will appear on:
Some cool things to notice is that all that footage is taken directly from the SP campaign, so you' re looking at the actual gameplay you' ll get to play. The only exception of course are the logos, waving flags, etc. All the action is actual in-game action captured from the SP of the game.

Platform: PC
Release: Fall 2007



What...


The....


Fuck...


Edit: Okay now I' m miffed. I just checked IGN, & they had this to say,

" Activision has not yet announced which platforms the game will be released on, but IGN confirmed in February of 2006 that the development team had been scoping this game out primarily for Xbox 360 and PS3. "

Which makes sense in one regard, but they' ve always been about the PC, and I can' t see them abandoning it completely.


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive - May 01, 2007 06:24
Theres no such thing as a 3rd Party exclusive in this day and age. Im sure we' ll see gimped 360 / PS3 / Wii /PS versions not long after..


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And we' re getting a PS2, XBOX, PS3, XBOX 360 crap-tastic game from Treyarch









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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive - May 01, 2007 07:01


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Theres no such thing as a 3rd Party exclusive in this day and age. Im sure we' ll see gimped 360 / PS3 / Wii /PS versions not long after..




Like the gimped 360 version of CoD2!?

Right...

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 00:52

Like the gimped 360 version of CoD2!?


COD2 is a old PC game.. Within 360' s capabilities.

On the horizon is Multi-core, min 2gig, Directx 10 PC gaming. Anything being converted onto the humble 360 will be severely gimped from now on.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 01:03


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Like the gimped 360 version of CoD2!?


COD2 is a old PC game.. Within 360' s capabilities.

On the horizon is Multi-core, min 2gig, Directx 10 PC gaming. Anything being converted onto the humble 360 will be severely gimped from now on.



Why could Xbox run Doom 3 or Riddick when it was NOWHERE FUCKING NEAR the MINIMUM recommended system requirements?

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 01:17

Why could Xbox run Doom 3 or Riddick when it was NOWHERE FUCKING NEAR the MINIMUM recommended system requirements?


Yeah, ran them severely gimped.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 02:00
" Why could Xbox run Doom 3 or Riddick when it was NOWHERE FUCKING NEAR the MINIMUM recommended system requirements?"

Like VF5 said, it was nowhere near the same quality either. 480p, at about medium settings. lighting, special effects, textures, everything is toned down on the Xbox version. Still an excellent port for the console...

The thing I like about PC is that if you like to keep your games, you can raise the settings and resolution of your games to make them look like the times. Even a 1000$ PC bought these days can run Doom at Ultra settings at a much higher resolution with a higher frame rate than the Xbox version. Meanwhile the Xbox version is trash now.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 02:05


ORIGINAL: Virtua fighter 5


Why could Xbox run Doom 3 or Riddick when it was NOWHERE FUCKING NEAR the MINIMUM recommended system requirements?


Yeah, ran them severely gimped.




Dont know about Doom 3 but Riddick looked great on the xbox ..

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 02:49


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Like the gimped 360 version of CoD2!?


COD2 is a old PC game.. Within 360' s capabilities.

On the horizon is Multi-core, min 2gig, Directx 10 PC gaming. Anything being converted onto the humble 360 will be severely gimped from now on.



Xbox 360 is multi-core. 360 covers everything in dx10, all dx10 has over dx9 is efficiency, it doesn' t really bring anything new in graphical beauty. The 360 has 512 MB available to its GPU which is fairly high-end compared to current graphics cards.
The 360 won' t be " severely gimped" . It' ll be like running the games on " high" settings instead of " highest" . You could compare that with a $400 computer that wouldn' t even be able to run it on the lowest settings.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 03:42
Nitro, No matter how you look at it, you cant argue..

low-mid with 30fps (at best) from high settings at double the framerate, proper controls = Gimped.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 04:05
Before this continues, those who have their chips on the table for the superior PC version need to post pictures & specs of their own rig, now.

I could have an amazing DX10 PC that could take a dump all over Call of Duty: 4 for 360, but I don' t, & I' d be stupid to think that more than a tiny minority of people do.

A title is not gimped unless they didn' t exploit the hardware to it' s fullest potential. Mario Galaxy isn' t gimped because it doesn' t perform like Alan Wake or Crysis. All three are pushing boundaries on their respective platforms, therefore, one isn' t gimped.


Xbox 360 is multi-core. 360 covers everything in dx10

Yeah, exac...

...

wait what?

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 04:13


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Nitro, No matter how you look at it, you cant argue..


My point isn' t that 360 will be able to match high-end PC' s further down the line, but that we' re talking s[ecifically about CoD4 and i fully expect it to be " within 360' s capabilities" as you put it.

This isn' t Crysis we' re talking about...

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 04:19

The 360 has 512 MB available to its GPU which is fairly high-end compared to current graphics cards.


Actually the 360 has 512mb total ram shared with the cpu with at 700Mhz@128bit width. The 2900xtx (GPU) for example coming out in a few months will have 1024mb of ram clocked in excess of 1000mhz with a 512bit width. Meaning, a 2900xtx will have twice the memory and about four times the bandwidth as the entire 360. Along with far more proccessing power.

This of course does not consider general ram on a PC which is moving towards 2GB as the standard and has much more bandwidth than then the shared 512mb in the 360. Not to mention CPUs with 4 to 8 cores coming out next year.

Next year we' ll see PC ports on 360 that look like low-medium settings of the PC version, at lower resolution as well as crappier framerates.

You get what you pay for.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 04:28
If you want the best looking game, buy it on the PC.

If you want a good looking game without having to invest a thousand + dollars, play it on the 360. It' s as simple as that.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 05:05

The 2900xtx (GPU) for example coming out in a few months will have 1024mb of ram clocked in excess of 1000mhz with a 512bit width. Meaning, a 2900xtx will have twice the memory and about four times the bandwidth as the entire 360. Along with far more proccessing power.

Wow, uh... what does one of those cost?

As the hippie environmentalist I am I must say that consoles are better for the environment. By upgrading PC' s you constantly throw old components and PC' s usually need much more power than consoles. Therefor, for natures sake, choose consoles
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 05:38
don' t forget that riddick on xbox run at a resolution of (640*480 or less since there was a severe aliasing) , no antistropic filtering. compared to the pc it just looked bad and that explain " somewhat" how the xbox could run such an amazing game, you should add optimization and what have you.

riddick dropped my jaw on the xbox, that is the first game that let me know the true potential of this console.

same thing apply for doom 3. a very low resolution like 640* 480 gives breath to old cards.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 06:49

If you want the best looking game, buy it on the PC.

If you want a good looking game without having to invest a thousand + dollars, play it on the 360. It' s as simple as that.


Exactly. I used to be a PC game junky, but I' ve just gotten tired of investing the cash in it. I' ve decided I would rather own all the consoles, and plenty of games for each, along with a big HDTV rather than keep up with PC' s over the next 4 years.

The other thing is that when I have people over, they would much prefer to play all sorts of games on a variety of consoles on a large TV rather than watch me play my PC .

I still love PC gaming, and will play the cutting edge stuff about a year after it comes out to keep my upgrade costs down, but I definitely don' t see myself investing in it like I used too.

Listen to Eddie guys, he is the mind of reason on these boards.

If you want the best graphics and money spent on PC hardware isn' t an issue, then by all means get games for it.

If you have a more limited budget or like to game with friends, go with the consoles, the games aren' t going to look " bad" and their will be a large variety of great games to play.

If you are a true gamer, you will realize that both PC' s and consoles offer certain things that the other cannot, and will appreciate both for what they do. It never hurts to hold off on a cutting edge PC title for a year when your rig can run it because even by then, it will still look as good or better than anything on the consoles, and will be a title you still haven' t played.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 12:05
Didn' t we already determine that it is stupid to suggest that one needs to upgrade every month to play the newest PC game? Let' s not devolve into that infantile debate.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 13:42

Wow, uh... what does one of those cost?


I don' t think the price for that card has been announced but for the 2900xt which has an identical core as the 2900xtx is said to cost about 399.99$. The difference is lower clock speeds and 512mb of ram, even with half the Vram it' s hardly crippled. It still has the 512bit width giving it ridiculous bandwidth. However, you almost certainly have to upgrade you power supply as well uness you did so not too long ago. If the 2900xtx is ever even released as they seem to be having problems with the card, probalby driver issues. I would only recommend that card if you have money to burn on having two videocards in Crossfire. Due to the fact that when you put two cards in SLI or Crossfire, you don' t double your Vram as both cards must have identical data stored in the Vram. So having 1GB over 512mb for two cards would make a big difference. Otherwise 512mb is good enough for now, in most cases the the bottleneck in the videocard will be raw proccessing power.

I think I' m going to buy the 2900xt when they move to 65nm fab, it looks like a really good deal. It perfomers between a 8800gts 640mb and a 8800GTX for DX9 games, and should outperform an 8800GTX with DX10 games.


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 16:27


ORIGINAL: Agent Ghost


The 360 has 512 MB available to its GPU which is fairly high-end compared to current graphics cards.


Actually the 360 has 512mb total ram shared with the cpu with at 700Mhz@128bit width. The 2900xtx (GPU) for example coming out in a few months will have 1024mb of ram clocked in excess of 1000mhz with a 512bit width. Meaning, a 2900xtx will have twice the memory and about four times the bandwidth as the entire 360. Along with far more proccessing power.

This of course does not consider general ram on a PC which is moving towards 2GB as the standard and has much more bandwidth than then the shared 512mb in the 360. Not to mention CPUs with 4 to 8 cores coming out next year.

Next year we' ll see PC ports on 360 that look like low-medium settings of the PC version, at lower resolution as well as crappier framerates.

You get what you pay for.


Notice how I said FAIRLY HIGH END compared to CURRENT graphics cards.

The architecture of consoles demands less memory for comparable performance than that of PCs.

Yes, eventually 360 will be thromped by PCs but it is very competetive right now. Especially when games are designed to take advantage of it. COD2 ran extremely well on 360 and the controls were done very well, COD4 isn' t going to suck on 360.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 17:13

Notice how I said FAIRLY HIGH END compared to CURRENT graphics cards.

The architecture of consoles demands less memory for comparable performance than that of PCs.

Yes, eventually 360 will be thromped by PCs but it is very competetive right now. Especially when games are designed to take advantage of it. COD2 ran extremely well on 360 and the controls were done very well, COD4 isn' t going to suck on 360.


I agree with this. My main point, and maybe I should have just left it at that was that the 360 has 512mb of total ram not 512mb for it' s GPU as you stated. I will say this though. Because next gen consoles are in HD they need more ram than previous consoles. They lost a lot of efficiency with ram, but obviously they gained ground in the quality department with the transition to HD.

Even now the 360/PS3 can' t beat a PC in the quality department. Some PC gamers are playing games at resolutions over four times 720p with higher quality settings and framerates. They' re competitive only because of the price advantage as well as the fact that it' s a console. Many types of games are just better on consoles and some are non existant on PC.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 02, 2007 18:29
If PC' s had lots of the kind of games I like then I would definitely be investing in badass PC' s.
But somehow, consoles have managed to steal most of what I like, I don' t know why.
Since I don' t like most PC games that much, a mid-level PC is good enough for me. I don' t care much about graphics too so I can very much enjoy PC games on weak PC' s as long as the gameplay is intact.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 07:09


ORIGINAL: Agent Ghost
Even now the 360/PS3 can' t beat a PC in the quality department. Some PC gamers are playing games at resolutions over four times 720p with higher quality settings and framerates.


That' s a bit of an exaggeration. 4 times 720p would take a couple of the highest resolution monitors. Video cards don' t even support resolutions that high. And even when you play games with the best equipment at really high resolutions you can' t max out the settings and get 60 fps.
And besides that there really isn' t anything out yet that is more impressive than Gears of War.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 07:45

And besides that there really isn' t anything out yet that is more impressive than Gears of War.


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 08:04

That' s a bit of an exaggeration. 4 times 720p would take a couple of the highest resolution monitors.


No it wasn' t an exaggeration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCmfCsV0svI&mode=related&search=

2560x1600=4 096 000 pixels

1280x720= 921 600 pixels

4 096 000 divided by 921 600=4.44....

Obviously most of us don' t have 30 inch monitors with two 8800GTX' s but some people do so the technology is available. Even one 8800GTX, hell even a 7900GTX or 1950XTX is more capable than then GPU in the 360 or PS3.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 08:08
If you go number of pixels it isn' t, but I figured you were going by width or length.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 08:14
Huh, a GPU doesn' t care what length or width the monitor is, it only knows how many pixels to output.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 08:42
Mmmkay guys, I' m sure your PC vs. Console arguments are downright riveting, but nobody is changing anybodies opinion here, not to mention we' re off topic. Suuhhhh-nore.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 15:58
width as in the number of pixels across the monitor
hah you assumed I am the stupid one when it is you who can' t understand simple logic
now stfu before I cut you

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 22:19


ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated

Mmmkay guys, I' m sure your PC vs. Console arguments are downright riveting, but nobody is changing anybodies opinion here, not to mention we' re off topic. Suuhhhh-nore.

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Wow, you really are the smartest guy here.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 22:41

Wow, you really are the smartest guy here.


I thought I was...................


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 22:48
I' m smarter than Eddie.

But Jews don' t really qualify as human so Eddie is the smartest guy here...

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 22:52

But Jews don' t really qualify as human


What are they then?


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 03, 2007 22:54


ORIGINAL: Duffman


But Jews don' t really qualify as human


What are they then?


Strange.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 00:36
We need a PC section so F3 and his newfound boyfriend group can shove graphics cards up eachothers asses without us having to deal with them. Im tired of ever 360/PS3 game thread hearing: " But the PC version is better! I only like JAP Console games, I love shit looking games on the Wii but hate HD games on PS3/360!"
I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 00:39

ORIGINAL: immortaldanmx

We need a PC section so F3 and his newfound boyfriend group can shove graphics cards up each others asses without us having to deal with them. Im tired of ever 360/PS3 game thread hearing: " But the PC version is better! I only like JAP Console games, I love shit looking games on the Wii but hate HD games on PS3/360!"


Ghost owns. f3, not so much.

EDIT: But yeah, if we had more active users then separate sections would be better.
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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 00:48

Ghost owns. f3, not so much.

I wasnt refering to Ghost, he doesnt change every thread into a PCvsConsole debate.

And he has Dead Pool as his avatar, he is automatically on the cool list.
I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 01:18
Considering this thread is about about a PC game, what you do think on the subject immortaldanmx?? Or would you rather just troll you fucking fool.


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 02:12
This thread is completely pointless.
Any posting below the line will be made by gay people and jews


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RE: Call of Duty 4 is a PC Exclusive... or is it? - May 04, 2007 02:57


ORIGINAL: ginjirou

This thread is completely pointless.
Any posting below the line will be made by gay people and jews


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ahg fine, I' ll take the hit and pick Jewish.

Now we can continue on to the third page! Above the line

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