Microsoft Records record profits, xbox division still losing money

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY07/earn_rel_q3_07.mspx

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=15255

Unfortunately, the company' s Entertainment and Devices Division (where their Xbox console business is located) continues to lose money. The division brought in $929 million in revenue for the quarter compared to $1.182 billion for the same period a year ago and an overall loss of $315 million for the quarter compared to a loss of $402 million from the same period a year ago.

They make $5BN per quarter so who gives a fuck?

What' s with all these figure orientated threads? They belong on NeoGAF, not here.

Well it does question whether a price drop for the 360 is on the cards. It was widely speculated on these forums, but with this announcement i think it will probably be around the time ps3 drops in price (obviously), so not for a while.

Yes the xbox division can continue to lose billions and microsoft won' t even feel it but at some point you would imagine microsoft would want there Entertainment and device division to make a profit.

Who cares?

As long as we get games i don' t i' ve a damn what any of them are earning, except when there is some sort of direct relevance to it like when Sony had to take out a loan for the first time in over a decade.

There will be a price drop for fall, that' s something that doesn' t need confirmation.

Unfortunately, the company' s Entertainment and Devices Division (where their Xbox console business is located) continues to lose money. The division brought in $929 million in revenue for the quarter compared to $1.182 billion for the same period a year ago and an overall loss of $315 million for the quarter compared to a loss of $402 million from the same period a year ago.

Dam, lucky MS have as much money as they do.

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at some point you would imagine microsoft would want there Entertainment and device division to make a profit.

Theyve already stated that they are willing to lose money to gain lead in the market.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Yes the xbox division can continue to lose billions and microsoft won' t even feel it but at some point you would imagine microsoft would want there Entertainment and device division to make a profit.

Great point.

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I' m sure Bill Gates cries himself to sleep knowing his gaming division is losing money. Poor guy. Quick, someone put him on suicide watch.

This proves that MS in in this for the joy of games and not the money. They ask what we want, deliver it, and gives us some of it for free. How nice.

Nintendo makes lots of profit from day one by selling their " cheap" console, along with their " cheap" games. Gamecube 1.5 and ports can' t be very expensive to make but they' re selling those things as they cost as much as HD products.

Sony are trying to tell us what we want. Those bastards! You want Blu-ray, not games. You want 1080p even though you don' t have a 1080p TV.

Long live Microsoft and their loads of money!!!!!!

You want Blu-ray, not games. You want 1080p even though you don' t have a 1080p TV.

Yes, BluRay is being trojan horsed by them, but the games part is dumb. Compare the ps3 lineup to the 360' s was this far into its life span and you have your answer, and both systems have great games on the way. As for 1080p, both companies are guilty of pushing HD gaming too much. I don' t care though, I was extremely tired of playing consoles on SDTV' s in the last generation, and the main reason I' ve been pulled away from my PC this gen is the fact that the resolution is finally up to par.

(32) Games available for PS3 so far (bolded games available on 360 before or simultaneously):

* Armored Core 4
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Call of Duty 3
* College Hoops 2K7
* Def Jam: Icon
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Enchanted Arms
* F.E.A.R.
* Fight Night Round 3
* Formula One Championship Edition
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Genji: Days of the Blade
* The Godfather: The Don' s Edition
* Madden NFL 07
* Major League Baseball 2K7
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
* MotorStorm
* NBA 07
* NBA 2K7
* NBA Street: Homecourt
* Need For Speed: Carbon
* NHL 2K7
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Ridge Racer 7
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
* Tom Clancy' s Splinter Cell: Double Agent
* Tony Hawk' s Project 8
* Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
* Virtua Fighter 5
* Virtua Tennis 3

(38) Games available on 360 and the same point in it' s life:

* Amped 3
* Call of Duty 2
* Condemned: Criminal Origins
* FIFA Soccer 06 Road to 2006 FIFA World Cup
* GUN
* Kameo: Elements of Power
* Madden NFL 06
* NBA 2K6
* NBA LIVE 06
* Need for Speed Most Wanted
* NHL 2K6
* Perfect Dark Zero
* Peter Jackson' s King Kong
* Project Gotham Racing 3
* Quake 4
* Ridge Racer 6
* Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 06
* Tony Hawk' s American Wasteland
* Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
* Fight Night Round 3
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Dead or Alive 4
* 2006 FIFA World Cup
* Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Burnout Revenge
* Championship Manager 2007
* College Hoops 2K6
* Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires
* Far Cry Instincts Predator
* Final Fantasy XI
* Football Manager 2006
* Full Auto
* Major League Baseball 2K6
* The Outfit
* Rumble Roses XX
* Tomb Raider: Legend
* Top Spin 2

ORIGINAL: Dagashi

You want Blu-ray, not games. You want 1080p even though you don' t have a 1080p TV.

Yes, BluRay is being trojan horsed by them, but the games part is dumb. Compare the ps3 lineup to the 360' s was this far into its life span and you have your answer, and both systems have great games on the way. As for 1080p, both companies are guilty of pushing HD gaming too much. I don' t care though, I was extremely tired of playing consoles on SDTV' s in the last generation, and the main reason I' ve been pulled away from my PC this gen is the fact that the resolution is finally up to par.

I thought it was quite obvious that I wasn' t really serious when I wrote that post. But if you want to debate what I wrote in that post then please, feel free to do so

ya think Microsoft would increase the build quailty of the 360 since money is no object....

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

ORIGINAL: Nitro

(32) Games available for PS3 so far (bolded games available on 360 before or simultaneously):

* Armored Core 4
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Call of Duty 3
* College Hoops 2K7
* Def Jam: Icon
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Enchanted Arms
* F.E.A.R.
* Fight Night Round 3
* Formula One Championship Edition
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Genji: Days of the Blade
* The Godfather: The Don' s Edition
* Madden NFL 07
* Major League Baseball 2K7
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
* MotorStorm
* NBA 07
* NBA 2K7
* NBA Street: Homecourt
* Need For Speed: Carbon
* NHL 2K7
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Ridge Racer 7
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
* Tom Clancy' s Splinter Cell: Double Agent
* Tony Hawk' s Project 8
* Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
* Virtua Fighter 5
* Virtua Tennis 3

(38) Games available on 360 and the same point in it' s life:

* Amped 3
* Call of Duty 2
* Condemned: Criminal Origins
* FIFA Soccer 06 Road to 2006 FIFA World Cup
* GUN
* Kameo: Elements of Power
* Madden NFL 06
* NBA 2K6
* NBA LIVE 06
* Need for Speed Most Wanted
* NHL 2K6
* Perfect Dark Zero
* Peter Jackson' s King Kong
* Project Gotham Racing 3
* Quake 4
* Ridge Racer 6
* Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 06
* Tony Hawk' s American Wasteland
* Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
* Fight Night Round 3
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Dead or Alive 4
* 2006 FIFA World Cup
* Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Burnout Revenge
* Championship Manager 2007
* College Hoops 2K6
* Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires
* Far Cry Instincts Predator
* Final Fantasy XI
* Football Manager 2006
* Full Auto
* Major League Baseball 2K6
* The Outfit
* Rumble Roses XX
* Tomb Raider: Legend
* Top Spin 2

Why don' t you bold the games that were also out on PC & Even PS2 on your 2nd list?

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Learn to use proper English. - Emotep

I have an American kid failing Geography. - Emotep

ya think Microsoft would increase the build quailty of the 360 since money is no object....

Ha ha ha.. Very True.

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ya think Microsoft would increase the build quailty of the 360 since money is no object....

Okay, i know for the last eight months or so it has been funny to down the quality of the 360, but its rather old now, move on. Im sure the quality cant be that bad since recently.

Okay, i know for the last eight months or so it has been funny to down the quality of the 360, but its rather old now, move on. Im sure the quality cant be that bad since recently.

I wish the build quality wasn' t an issue, I truly do. However, my brothers roomate got a 360 at christmas and it decided to hit the bricks last week. It' s under warranty of course, but I was suprised to see such a recent purchase break. He played Gears and GRAW1&2 a ton, but it also had great ventilation so I would hope that would be a non-issue.

Im just saying that its pretty boring to go into a forum and everytime someone mentions the 360 or ps3 the first thing they say is " Maybe it wont break" Or " its built worse than a toaster" Getting pretty old.

yeah but your not going to hear the end of it, just like the ps3' s price and the wii' s lack of everything.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Ironic how they' re using the cheapest components to build them and yet still losing tons of money on each one sold.

yeah but your not going to hear the end of it, just like the ps3' s price and the wii' s lack of everything.

Actually people have stopped with the ps3 price bashing. Iv got nothing against the fact that you mentioned it its just the fact that you mention it in every thread. It did deserve it but its been going on for a year.

Some things many will NEVER stop complaining about:
-Sony' s d-pads
-Sony' s parallell analog sticks
-Sony' s " stealing" of other' s ideas
-The 360' s build quality
-The lack of japanese support for the 360
-The fee for Xbox Live
-Nintendo' s kiddie games
-Nintendo' s weak consoles
-Nintendo' s Mario milking
-Sonic team' s failures
-Console wannabe handhelds
-Complexity of PC' s
-Bugs and glitches
-Fanboys
-Western VS japanese games
-Delays
-Adam for not doing anything about the fact that you still can see if anyone edits their posts and where is the cooler level system? I liked my idea with kyu and dan grades.
-Impotense

Some things many will NEVER stop complaining about:
-Sony' s d-pads ... actually i like the sony dpad, which IMO is the only good thing on a ps controller

-Sony' s parallell analog sticks ... I hate it, but some may like it
-Sony' s " stealing" of other' s ideas... It usually backfires anyway
-The 360' s build quality... I dunno. I think the problems been fixed since around christmas because i dont know anyone in my area who got a 360 for christmas that broke. Even if they are im sure it will be fixed when the Elite comes out

-The lack of japanese support for the 360.. I dont live in Japan
-The fee for Xbox Live... If $50 a year is going to make someone bankrupt then i seriously doubt they need a 360

-Nintendo' s kiddie games... Its mainly people who cant play a game unless it has nonstop blood and gore or cant play a game thats not made by EA

-Nintendo' s weak consoles... I do think they should upgrade their consoles somewhat

-Nintendo' s Mario milking... [:' (]
-Sonic team' s failures... So dissapointing
-Console wannabe handhelds... I sorta like the idea
-Complexity of PC' s... [:' (]
-Bugs and glitches... cough cough Oblivion cough
-Fanboys... They will never go away
-Western VS japanese games... meh
-Delays... I actually like delays to some extent because if they release a game before its finished it will suck. A fine example is halo 2

-Adam for not doing anything about the fact that you still can see if anyone edits their posts and where is the cooler level system? I liked my idea with kyu and dan grades... That and the fact you cant post twice in a row

-Delays... I actually like delays to some extent because if they release a game before its finished it will suck. A fine example is halo 2

" A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever"

" A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever"

If your refering to halo 2, it wasnt a bad game, it just wasnt what everybody expected. The SP sucked, but the online is the best you could get on an original xbox game

The SP sucked, but the online is the best you could get on an original xbox game

True. Thing is, the PC had many better single player games and many better online games, which is why I hate halo nerds. They act like its this game that was the bomb shit, and was better than anything at the time, when in reality, it was just an okay game. Anyone with a $1000 PC at the time could play a better online game.

True. Thing is, the PC had many better single player games and many better online games, which is why I hate halo nerds. They act like its this game that was the bomb shit, and was better than anything at the time, when in reality, it was just an okay game. Anyone with a $1000 PC at the time could play a better online game.

And how many people do you know with a $1000 pc?

They act like its this game that was the bomb shit

The wa..!???

And how many people do you know with a $1000 pc?

Both my parents upgrade their PC' s every couple years with $2,000 PC' s, and every friend I have but 2 have $1,000 + PC' s and a few of em have high end rigs. My brother and his roomates all have good PC' s. So, pretty much everyone I know has a good PC. However, Canada has one of the highest PC and high speed internet ratio' s per capita in the world, especially Calgary.

And how many people do you know with a $1000 pc?

fuck off, With a cheap £3-400 rig / Laptop, you could run Games Like quake 3 and unreal, CS, DOD, HL1, HL2 ETC which wipe the floor with Halo 2 in Single-player / multi-player .

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fuck off, With a cheap £3-400 rig / Laptop, you could run Games Like quake 3 and unreal, CS, DOD, HL1, HL2 ETC which wipe the floor with Halo 2 in Single-player / multi-player .

Wow. Just fucking wow. Your crying over me asking who put thousands of dollars per year on their pc to play video games? I can understand quake and unreal, but HL? Just go fucking kill yourself F3