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ginjirou
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 05:35
So if your friends, or your family or someone happens to get diseased you don' t want them to survive with the help of medical science simply because they are weaker than you?


why campaign for stuff like it then stay away from people with sars, aids, or lepracy etc,.

Didn' t get that part. I don' t know if my english is bad or if you put it in a weird way but... I didn' t get that part.


You also said something like what humans are doing does' nt make much of a difference to the globe ...really?.

We make a difference but compared to what nature can do itself it' s not much really.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 05:41
Would any of you like to live in a world devoid of Laws, Goverments or basic inforstutre,

Would you like to live on this basic level, no technogly, living in the cold and unstationtry conditions?

Its not right, we have passed beyond that, nobody should live in that today, I know some do in the poor countries, but they will eventually devolp.
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Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 05:50


ORIGINAL: ginjirou

So if your friends, or your family or someone happens to get diseased you don' t want them to survive with the help of medical science simply because they are weaker than you?



Again you' re straying from the point did I state that weaker people should die? or did I say that you' re argument for it was flawed compared to what goes on elsewhere?.

Also what I was saying is that there are holes in the argument pertaining to the above thats all.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 07:31
Ok I think I got it know but correct me if I' m wrong again.
I don' t think my argument is flawed just because everyone don' t live up to it. Everyone is different, acts different and have different opinions. Even though I and many others feel that any life anywhere should be saved if there is a will and a way it doesn' t mean that everyone else feel that way.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 16:15

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What exactly has man managed to accomplish thus far apart from destroying eco-systems, fucking with the atmosphere and making a general mess of the planet?!


The Sega Dreamcast. that' s gotta count for something.


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RE: The weed thread - Jul 18, 2006 22:11
We haven' t fucked the world up. The world is not a static, unchanging thing. It existed before mankind walked on it, and it will survive mankind.

Anyone who says they have no choices in life is either an idiot who makes no attempt to decide or a coward who willfully surrenders all his control to others.
There is no " fate" . Everything is the result of choices. Paths collide, more choices appear and the cycle continues.

All aspects society are a result of mankind' s will.
The desire to survive causes us to group together.
The desire to live inspired us to study our environment and develop medicines. The desire to prosper causes us to change the environment to suit our prosperity. Government and laws are a result of our desire for stability.


Mankind is not a seperate entity existing apart from the world. Our social evolution has harmed our environment, but the very fact that we realize this is what will preserve that same environment for future generations.

We realize we need different types of fuel, so we are developing them.

We realize that we are killing rainforests, so societies have formed to monitor and protect them.

The only scenario that means an end for mankind and the world is one in which mankind becomes too arrogant to change and adapt. And as arrogant as mankind is, that' s simply not in our nature.



And i don' t think any substance should be illegal. If people want to kill themselves, let them...it' s their choice. Personally, my parents taught me better.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 06:40
" What happens if he says no?

The world certainly influences your choices, but it dosent determine them."





" That' s what little men do - you don' t have to be one of them.

You have perfect controll of everything you want as long as you have enough courage to take the wheel.

You know some people stood against bigger things than getting up in the morning or money robbery and died for them - at one point you' re saying you don' tcare about life , but then you say that you have to give this guy your cash cause you don' t wanna die and trying anything else might get you killed.

You are a coward like 99% people on this planet , but they don' t lie to themselves that they don' t care and shit.

I have nothing against people who value their life ,career and so on, more than dignity and honour, but saying it' s the only way and trying to be depressed about it is just hopeless "





I knew you guys would say this. It shows that you' re not understanding what I' m saying. Look at my robbery example again. Most people would hand over the money because fear is the greatest influence for them at that time with everything considered. However some people would tell the rober to fuck off. These rare people have other influences that are greater than fear in this moment. Not everyone is influenced by the same things because we all have different lives. The only thing we have in common is that we all surrender to the lowest common denominator. The only times where we do not, we consider it a mistake.

The way some of you are talking makes it sound as though I' m saying this because I' m a depressed teenage pot head. When in fact I' m none of those things. This is just my perspective on life. Someone wondered my age, I' m 20 and the older I get the more sure of myself I get. This isn' t even my opinion, I know I' m right. I see it everyday, people follow the same patters like fucking drones. It' s getting to a point where I can' t stand being around my family or friends because I know what they' re going to do before they do it. Life gets really really boring after you' ve reached a point where nothing can surprise you.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 07:39
Wow this is getting deep maaaaaaaaan.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 07:57
You cant expect things to be done for you, you got to make your own changes. Nobody else will.

You cant count on people very much, people allways have themseleves as no.1 and others come afterwards, there may be a odd expection but its true, people are selfish and dont give a damn about you. But you cannot let that affect you, You want a more exciteing life?, nobody is going to do it for you. You got to do it yourself.

Like your robbery examp-le, nobdy is going to jump in and save you, becuase they fear they may get shot, and I respect that, an animals basic Instinct is to survive. But you got too look past that. and do it yourself.
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 08:05

It' s getting to a point where I can' t stand being around my family or friends because I know what they' re going to do before they do it. Life gets really really boring after you' ve reached a point where nothing can surprise you.


So what if you know what they' re going to do? Maybe they' re happy with their lifes that way.
I can see your point in all your arguments but I have to disagree with most of them.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 09:01
Its funny how you guys are agreeing with me yet arguing at the same time. My robbery example was never about outside help. It was about how humanity reacts to being robbed and how the same proccesses governs everything we do. Silent you just admitted that we are ruled by basic instincs. When we are presented with a choice we always choose whichever appeals the most for whatever reason. Those reasons are constructed by our experiences (our surroundings). Since we are born into a setting, I feel as though my life is already decided because I have the same instinct as everyone else.

The human instinct is humanity, everything else is mearly the cause. Human instinct is the engine that drives cause to effect. For example our bodies (including the brain you were born with) are a major cause, one that is largely responsible for shaping our personality. As are our parents and things we learn...


It works out like this, Human instinct+cause=effect (individuals). Modern psychology (humanistic) is based on the idea that we' re all trying to meet out potential which is of course the human instinct. I' m taking this one step further in saying that since we all have the same human instinct we would all react the same way to the same situation. This is why I feel like I have no choice. I' m only doing what I do because of the circomstances I was born into.

It' s impossible to see all the causes. We can' t even come remotely close. There are simply too many variables. We would have to make up a new number to describe how many unique factors interact with human instinct to create our minds. I like to compare humans with weather. We understand the forces that control weather like temperature*,air density* and humidity* perfectely. However we can' t predict tomorrows weather with certainty simply because we can' t measure the causes* with 100% accuracy. If we could measure all the variables with 100% acc. we could predict the weather 1000 years from now with 100% accuracy. The same is true with humans.



" So what if you know what they' re going to do? Maybe they' re happy with their lifes that way.
I can see your point in all your arguments but I have to disagree with most of them."

Well if you understand what I' m saying then thats all I wanted. I' m only sharing the reason why I feel a certain way. If someone here agreed with everything I said then they' d probably feel the same way, which was by the way the basis on why I' m not against using marijuana.

I' m not one dimensional, the idea that life is pointless and and without choice is more a belief than a sentiment for me. I know my life is meaningless, but I just don' t give a shit. More than anything I' m just bored, life is too long.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 09:49
I don' t see how one could be bored with life. I think there are so many things that I have not experienced and learned that I need ANOTHER lifetime. I mean, yeah, we' re all insignificant insects in the grand scheme of things, but why not just enjoy it? Game Junkie, you don' t enjoy sunsets? Rainy days? Canyons? Mountains? Animals? Birds? Children? Swimming? GIRLS? Movies? Learning? Marial Arts? Reading?

Right now I' m looking into: Learning Martial Arts, Spending more time reading, wooing a beautiful young lady, going back to college to learn how to start a home theater installation company, traveling (even if it' s in the same country). But then I' m always distracted by friends who want to watch movies or play video games (which is a good thing). Hell, even just sitting around on the internet is cool to me. Doesn' t seem useless of boring (even though it probably should! )

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 10:04
Well then it' s too bad you were born into being a depressed weed smoker who can' t enjoy life. It' s too bad that there was no action that caused an effect on you that would make you feel different.
Our lifes probably has no meaning from the beginning (other than reproducing, nature seems to want us to do that). But you can always give your life a meaning yourself. Of course, that choice won' t be a free choice, it' s simply your mind reacting to all the things that you have experienced. But it would make things more fun if you would find some meaning.

I guess your view of " choice" is similar to mine.
Raindrops don' t fall on random places even though it appears so. They fall on predestined spots which are decided by the wind, the air resistance and their weight.
That can be compared to our thoughts. They seem to be " free" but they are just a result of other events. Chemical substanses in our brains reacting to what' s happening in our lifes, to make sure we survive.
Ever since Big bang everything that has happened is a result of a previous event. It' s kind of what you could call fate. Everything that' s happening was meant to happen since the beginning of time.

But even though this is how the world works and even though we are controlled by fate or destiny, whatever you call it, I always feel that we should apprecitate our different fates. I hope that even though you might be destined to feel the way you do, destiny will have something nice waiting for you that will make life worth living.
I enjoy my life simply by enjoying everyday things. Playing videogames, being with friends, watching TV, taking a trip. Even though it' s predictable, even though I was meant to do these things and really don' t have a choice, I still like it.

But choice and a pre-set fate doesn' t have to be that different even though it sounds weird. Here' s a suggestion from me: find something you enjoy in life, find stuff that gives your life a meaning.
Now you have a choice, what you choose will be a direct result of your previous experiences. However, the decision still has to be made. Even though the answer is pre-set, you still have to choose the it and then you' ll FOLLOW IT THROUGH. And that' s the exciting part of life. Not the ability to MAKE choices, but what the choices will actually LEAD to.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 10:23
Does it make sense to read a book, even though the ending has already been written? Of course, because you do not know what the ending is until you read it. Life is like that(if you believe in all this predetermined stuff, which I don' t). I mean, tomorrow is what I make it. If I want to sit around watching Momma' s Family, eating Cheesy Poofs, then that' s what' s gonna happen. If I wanna go out and have sex with a hot chick and then play multi-player Prey until my eyes bleed, then THAT' S what' s gonna happen! Which ever thing I decide to do, was it destiny? Fate? F*ck if I know, and f*ck if I care! I don' t know what tommorow brings, so I' ll do what I want to do, and see what happens.

I think some people just put TOO MUCH analysis into life. Who gives a sh*t! Play games, have sex, eat good food! Enjoy the moment, for it is fleeting, as is life. You' ll have plenty of time to contemplate death, once it comes. You' ll also be more of an expert once you have the experience (as opposed to now, as we can all just speculate).

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 11:26
For the record gingirou I' ve been high only 3-4 times and this was all in one summer 2 years ago. I' ve known a lot of real drug addicts but I' m not one of them. I' m not a " weed smoker" , and likely won' t touch the stuff for a while. I just don' t think it should be illegal, for the simple reason that I don' t like the government or anyone telling me what I can' t consume. I don' t see why we allow our governments to get so powerful that they can prevent us from enjoying simple pleasures. Who' s to say what is fun? Everyone has a different idea of a good time.

If I get a chance to try cocain,heroin,ecstacy etc. from a trust worthy supplier I' ll take it. I' m not suicidal, but I' m not afraid to die either. I refuse to hide behind the fears and morals of others. I don' t see drugs as any different from the other passtimes you mentioned . Pot is a distraction like anything else. Would doing drugs be bad for my health? Probably. But I really don' t give a shit about my health. Some people for reasons that elude me still believe that the healthiest person when he/she dies wins. Well you' re dead fucknut so...you didn' t win. It' s completely irrational to spend so much time and effort trying to preserve something that is destined to die.

You guys want to know my honest view of my future. This is not my pessimistic guess, it' s my plan, my intention for how I want to spend my life. Here goes, right now I' m working in a place that makes Hell look like a theme ride. I' ve been in this place for 2 very long years. I' m so sick of the place thinking about it makes me want to vomit, I only have this and next week left before I quit (already gave my notice) but I' m not even sure I' ll make it without going crazy. Anyways the only reason I stayed is because I wanted to save my pennies for college and finish the program I dropped out of.

I intend to finish my meager degree and get a job in the government (ironic isn' t it?) doing anything. I don' t really want a desk job but I live right next to the capital and government jobs are the only decent jobs here. In just a few years after I put my foot in the door, probably in statistics making upwards of $50 000 a year. I' ll live cheap and save my money. I' ll work for 10-15 years so when I' m 35-40 I can retire. I' ll then buy some land somewhere away from civilization and build a castle of drugs. I' ll have enough to supply the canadian army. Stimulant, depressants, barbituates, hallucinogens everything I can get my hands on and lots of it. I' ll spend the last few years of my life in isolation exploring the limits of my mind in my castle until I overdose. I want to give the world the finger and this is the best way to do it. I' ll succeed, take everything I want and throw it all back in their face.

So what do i think of weed? Maybe after I retire.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 15:39

" Find a job you like and you add five days to every week."
-H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 20:46
So in order to put the world right about governing people' s lives you are going to get a job working for the government...or did I read wrong?.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 21:05
Even though I can' t moraly support your plan it sure is a fascinating one.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 19, 2006 23:54


ORIGINAL: Game Junkie
Would doing drugs be bad for my health? Probably. But I really don' t give a shit about my health. Some people for reasons that elude me still believe that the healthiest person when he/she dies wins. Well you' re dead fucknut so...you didn' t win. It' s completely irrational to spend so much time and effort trying to preserve something that is destined to die.


People don' t stay healthy to avoid death, they do it to enjoy a better life. You' ll understand that after you have your first stroke or heart attack. Then all this pitiful morose angst you' ve gotten yourself mired in will seem silly.

Yeah, I said pitiful, and I meant it.



I intend to finish my meager degree and get a job in the government (ironic isn' t it?) doing anything. I don' t really want a desk job but I live right next to the capital and government jobs are the only decent jobs here. In just a few years after I put my foot in the door, probably in statistics making upwards of $50 000 a year. I' ll live cheap and save my money. I' ll work for 10-15 years so when I' m 35-40 I can retire. I' ll then buy some land somewhere away from civilization and build a castle of drugs. I' ll have enough to supply the canadian army. Stimulant, depressants, barbituates, hallucinogens everything I can get my hands on and lots of it. I' ll spend the last few years of my life in isolation exploring the limits of my mind in my castle until I overdose. I want to give the world the finger and this is the best way to do it. I' ll succeed, take everything I want and throw it all back in their face.


So you' re going to settle for the easiest task in your immediate environment, then kill yourself. Don' t really want to do much with your life do you?

Throw it back in whose face? Nobody gives a shit when an idiot dies. They just die. People overdose every damn day. That doesn' t make you unique and it won' t change anybody' s life.

You don' t give a shit about society? Then leave. Do it now. If you plan to be a pointless wart on society' s ass, leave society. We don' t need you.

You know what? You' re a coward.

You hate your job, but you keep going...

You don' t appreciate your own education, but you settle for it anyway...

You don' t WANT a government job, and you don' t plan on doing anything significant while you' re there, but you plan to get one because it' s close to your area...

Everyone around you bores you, but you stay...

It' s like you' re waiting for some catalyst to come along and scoop you out of this wretched world.
Be your own goddamn catalyst. Don' t like your life? Change it! Stop being such a little pussy and mold yourself into what you want to be. Stop banging your fists against the cage and open the damn door. It' s not locked, it never was.

Or don' t. Who gives a shit, right? Certainly not you.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 02:56
Hmm, nice there naked_donkey.
Now, I think we should end this discussion. I don' t think we' ll get any further than this.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 05:32

naked_donkey




I' m finding that funnier than i probably should...

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 06:09
Hmmm, got a little preachy there didn' t i? Sorry about that.

Don' t get me wrong, I meant every word...I just shouldn' t have typed it.
A decade in the military killed my tolerance for defeatist attitudes.
It also made me somewhat of an asshole.

But I' m not going to edit it either.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 06:53
He called you " naked_donkey" !!!

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 08:24
I' m getting a government career because its truely the best place to work in my area. Canada, in case you guys didn' t notice is a very large counrty that is sparcely populated. My area is two provinces, Ontario and Quebec. Both of which are bigger then most countries, any further is too far, I' m not adventurous enough to leave everything for the unknown. I live in Quebec which is french, I' m bilingul but english people here are still a minority and are trated as such so I' d never get the same opportunities as I would in Ontario. I don' t want to go farther then Ontario, it would just complicate my life for nothing. I said I didn' t want to work in a desk job because I didn' t want to sound too optimistic about work (its a thing I have). In all honesty I feel pretty good about the path I' m about to take.

When I say government I mean doing office work not politics Dasher232.


Nekkid_monkey I' m sorry I upset you. Not many people understand me, you clearly aren' t one of those few. You seem to think I' m trying to choose the easiest path into giving up. If that were so I' d be dead already, there' s plenty of tall buildings in the capital that i could jump off of. If anything I' ve done nothing but live against the current. I stayed in the job I hate which is without exaduration my personal Hell, any normal sane person would hate my job it really is that horrible, they' ll never be able to replace me, my bosses almost cried when I told they I quit. To be honest if my boss gave me an accurate description of my job when I applied I would have told them to shove their job right up their ass. My original plan (because I always have a plan) was to work for one year and go back to finish my degree. One year turned into two years... You' re right about one thing, I should have never stayed so long. I honestely can' t justify staying there for so long.

When I said meager degree, I meant that it was not going to get me very far, I was trying to be humble, keep in mind that for the past two years I' ve been working with about 30 adults that never finished high school. Actually its not even a degree it' s a DEC, which is a pre-university, it gives me university credits. Its not going to help me get any career besides giving me higher education. I' m not going back to finish my DEC because its the easiest path. I decided to go after it for three reasons. One, for self validation, the reason I spent two years in Hell is because I was stupid enough to drop out of something I was doing well in. Two, I like Social Science, it has a mix of different courses that appeal to me. Finally my mom works in Government and believes that with my DEC I could get in easilly.

I' m not trying to piss my life away, everything I do is calculated. There' s a purpose to my madness you know.

I don' t hate my life, this past week I' ve been very cranky seeing as how I have two full 40 hour weeks (40 hour weeks always does this to me), so I think I came off the wrong way. Today however I' m in the best mood I' ve been in since...ever. Its as if it hit me today that I only have 7 days in my prison before I see freedom. For the first time in my life I feel like the world is carrying me instead of steping on me.

I still think Life is too long and meaningless. Its a belief more then a sentiment. Thats why I' ve decided to end my life in a bang. Working until I die doesn' t really appeal to me. Its not that i hate society, its that I don' t like being their slave. That' s why my attitude towards life is, fuck it. Like I said before, I want to die young while exploring the limits of my mind. Its not like we get to keep anything after we die, like say our memories.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 08:35
If I were gamejunkie (which I realize, I' m not) then I would get a job on a cruise ship. I actually thought about it myself, and it would be kind of easy for me since most have casinos, and that' s my " industry" . Alas, I' m persuing the interests of a young lady, so it' s not in the cards for now.

Game Junkie; where do you live at in Canada?

edit: Nevermind. You posted the answer as I was posting the question! Doh!
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 11:30
I don' t think working on a cruise ship is for me. For one thing I can' t stand being in crowded spots. The less people I see the happier I am. My perfect job which doesn' t even exist anymore would be something like a grave digger (with a shovel).

I would work alone, start at midnight and sleep during the day to perform a simple neccessary service. I' d be able to see the fruits of my labour and live with no stress. Digging plots is the only job that I can imagine that conforms to all my standards for a perfect job. I could eliminate mornings, wouldn' t have to see too many people and I could stay in shape without exhausting my body or mind. How many people die in one day per cemetary? probably just a few, piece of cake.

Best part is since no one is around I could occasionally smoke some pot on the job. No one would even know. Its a shame they use tractors to do the digging these days.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 20, 2006 19:44

I stayed in the job I hate which is without exaduration my personal Hell, any normal sane person would hate my job it really is that horrible, they' ll never be able to replace me, my bosses almost cried when I told they I quit. To be honest if my boss gave me an accurate description of my job when I applied I would have told them to shove their job right up their ass.

I don' t remember if you' ve told us before but what have you been working as?

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 21, 2006 02:18
How old are you, gamejunkie?(just a question)

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 21, 2006 03:21
He' s 20. He posted that before. I asked him and he answered


Someone wondered my age, I' m 20 and the older I get the more sure of myself I get. This isn' t even my opinion, I know I' m right.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 21, 2006 06:50
I work for Zellers (similar to wal-mart, only shittier) in the stock room. I do the physical labour. Everyday a long mac truck comes and delivers merchandise, along with several smaller trucks such as fed-ex and purolator. Everyday we get about 7 tonnes or 400 to 1000 large boxes of junk that we need to sort out before sending it out to the floor for the other employees to actually place on the shelves. All that merchandise has to be replenished everyday. That' s just to give you an idea of the volume of our problems. The range of problems that this perticular store has is astonishing.

Firstly everyone who works there detests their jobs (with good reason) and they' ve all been there for an average of 10-15 years. I honestly believe that many of them have been driven crazy by that hole. So you can imagine what its like to work with a bunch of old lazy bitches who want nothing more then to dump their work and mistakes on the the first sucker they see.

Then there is the building itself, it needs to be condemned or burned down. The plumbing is worthless the electricity goes out 10-20 times a year, the tools we have are older then I am...nothing works in the place. Sometimes the compactor in the stock room breaks so we end up walking in garbage for a week or more... The absalute worst are the fluorescent lights and the extremely terrible music that I had to endure all day. You guys like Celine Dion? Me neither. Fucking french and their unusual tortures.

I haven' t really explained what I do because it would take a week of typing without stop, basically I do all the jobs that no one else wants. At any given time I have about 2-6 people asking me do do something no one else will do. The work never ends. Even when I feel like I pushed my body to the point where I' m ready to let the vultures finish me off, I still have to do the same thing all over the next day. I had to get up at 5:30 am for two years for this shit. So naturally I can get a bit cranky to say the least.

It wasn' t all bad though, as crazy as the employees are, the customers can be even more fucked up. Sometimes to the point of hilarity. I' ll never forget the woman who wanted to exchange used underwear. When we explained to her that you can' t exchange used underwear (which wasn' t even bought at our store) she demanded to see the manager. The manger laughed, and when she got upset, my boss told her to leave the fucking store. The best one was the guy who rushed in the store near closing and was desperately looking for some kind of spray he could use on his cats ass to make him stop shitting! He said his cat was dropping logs all over his kitchen...

Well it' s my first job so I guess I could have done worse. I learned my lesson though, never work in retail or the shipping/receiving industry. A place like that is a cespit for people that have given up on life, they don' t give a fuck about anything. Working in an evironment created by them is Hell. I worked like a slave only with a worse salary.

I should have left after the first month. I think I stayed because I was already disapointed in myself for dropping out of college when I was actually doing well. Anyways its all behind me, I only need to survive tomorrow and next week.
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 22, 2006 02:40
...yeah i can relate to the living hell-hole job scenario (especially the part about the long termers who have been driven insane by the ineptitude of their jobs and lives)...

....but like you, i have youth on my side... ...you really need to form a desire for life man... ..because if you don' t, chances are you' ll eventually BECOME one of those old lifeless rejects...

...i think it' s mainly your job, sleep depravation and lack of decent food that is creating your current point of view, which although i generally agree with, seems to be highly coloured by your current life experience (namely that shit*y job)....

...for example, do you think you' d feel as pessimistic if you worked as a movie director? ...or a porn star?..

....and surely you must of realised that although, objectively, - life, humans and the universe have no meaning, being alive and the universe in general function OUTSIDE OF OBJECTIVITY, LOGIC AND REASON....

....you create your experience of reality through your perceptions of the world around you.. ...which essentially means that you and only you are responsible for your existence.. ..your experiences are reality for you as an individual because your primary function is SUBJECTIVITY and not objectivity....

....you need to find the things which give you value... ..which stimulate your intellect, or make you laugh, or make you go " wow! totally amazing" etc... and use them as the basis for your existence....


...actually...

...you sound like your not getting any... ...no offence, but the world always seems really shit*y when you' re not getting any....

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 22, 2006 02:53
I had to change my job from full time to part time, because I realised having to work
all the time sucks, and I was deprived of a continual social life, there would be
monthly intervals between it' s social outing and quite frankly I couldn' t handle it
being 19 and all. Luckily for me I just turned to a nocturnal life of videogames,
and felt a bit better, now I am part-time, it' s great stuff!


....but like you, i have youth on my side... ...you really need to from a desire for life man... ..because if you don' t, chances are you' ll eventually BECOME on of those old lifeless rejects...


Bish is right in an eccentric Operah kind of way.

You need to develop a goal, one that you can focus on. Live a life of no regrets..
(That is in no way an insinuation to kill someone and walk away with a " meh"
attitude)


...i think it' s mainly your job, sleep depravation and lack of decent food that is creating your current point of view, which although i generally agree with, seems to be highly coloured by your current life experience (namely that shitty job)....


My job grants me £17,000 a year, but the stress that comes with it far outweighs
the pay, a job can be a deciding factor in your life, I' d much rather settle for
an average paid job working with videogames than speaking to stupid people
all day. D' you have any idea what it is like to constantly speak to buffoons?!


...for example, do you think you' d feel as pessimistic if you worked as a movie director? ...or a porn star?..


I' d probably feel worse being one of those two:

Porn Star- Degrading quick way of making cash, pleasured infamy as opposed to fame.

Movie Director- Everyone is constantly watching your every move, no-one
likes someone that is too successful which can lead to the deepest depression. When they shoot you down.



...you sound like your not getting any... ...no offence but the world always seems really shitty when you' re not getting any....


Are you a PornStar Bish?

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1. Never tell all you know.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 22, 2006 05:53
Bishonen isn' t old enough to legally WATCH pornography, nevermind be a porn star.


I had to change my job from full time to part time, because I realised having to work all the time sucks, and I was deprived of a continual social life, there would be monthly intervals between it' s social outing and quite frankly I couldn' t handle it being 19 and all. Luckily for me I just turned to a nocturnal life of videogames, and felt a bit better, now I am part-time, it' s great stuff!


Work sucks man, ...that' s just how it is.

Y' know, all i wanted to do when i was growing up was work in the videogames industry and when i left college (at 18) there were only 3 universities in the country that actually did a ' BA HONS Computer Games Design' and so my choices were; Edinburgh, Teesside and somewhere in the south, ...so i chose Teesside as i knew people going there to do different courses.

After i completed and passed my first year i spent the summer wondering whether it WAS actually what i wanted to do (as the course hadn' t been quite what i was expecting) and eventually decided to take a year off and go live/work in France for a year. One year turned into 2 years and after working in France for a year i went to work in Calgary, Canada for 6 months on a work visa. I returned to the UK and applied for Canadian citizenship and decided to go back to university.

There were complications at first because the course and it' s modules had changed in my 2 year absence and i wanted to progress straight into the 2nd year of the course. Luckily the first year modules were similar enough that they allowed it and i' ve just finished my 3rd year and have one left to go.

I' m still not certain that i' m on the right course as my personal traits aren' t what studios will be looking for. I get lazy, i hate working to deadlines, i find it hard to focus on the task at hand etc...

During term-time my days are super busy. I work 3 days a week at Gamestation, most Sunday evenings behind the bar at a club called Emporium, a busy course timetable (though i tend to miss more lectures than i should), i' m in a " serious" relationship and i still have to find time to socialise as well as play games.

Now it' s the holidays and i have much less to do. Most of the guys have gone home for the summer, my girlfriend has gone to see her parents for a couple of months and i have no deadlines to meet and no projects to rush. My brother has just moved into the flat and he' ll be starting at the uni in September. In two weeks were going out to Greece for erm, two weeks and when i get back i' ll be working fulltime until uni starts again. Well, ...until freshers week anyway!

Still, i can' t help but wonder what the point of it all is

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 22, 2006 13:55
Yeah I hate deadlines as well. Time constraints are the largest stress, if people were a little more patient the world would be a much better place for everyone. At work everything needs to be done yesterday...

Bishonen you' re right about alot of things you said about me especially the sleep deprivity. I' m a heavy sleeper ( 11 hours is perfect for me) yet I have a job that requires me to wake up at 5:30 am (8:30 is too early for me) . So I always feel like I have to wake up at 2:30 am to go to work.

Today at work I was thinking, and I realized that there' s nothing wrong with me or anyone with my perspective on the world. It' s the world that' s backwards, everyone who' s happy and content with life are the ones that are crazy and short sighted. We like to think we' re so intelligent as the human race, but the fact is that our intelligence is only serving to make life more difficult for us. I still remember the statistics in sociology class, most of the worlds population don' t even have plumbing or they live on dirt floors. For the most part humanity is failing miserably. Even if you don' t live in a third world nation the chances are pretty good that you' re a slave anyways. Everyone who frequents Kikizo are in the top 10th percentile in terms of wealth, yet many of us are mearly slaves to large faceless corporations.

We work to earn just enough to cover the expenses of working. They pay us just enough to survive and continue working. Unless you work for yourself, the chances are good that someone else is profiting greatly at your expense. The worst part is that the money that we generate usually just sits in the bank accounts of the greediest elites (who also happen to be the ones who work the least).

Life' s a bitch ain' t it? Oh well I only have a week left in my personal hell. After that everything by comparison will seem normal and easy. I' ll never work for minimum wage again, ever. I' d much rather be in prison to be honest. In prison I wouldn' t make much money but at least the people are nicer.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 23, 2006 02:29
I work in a factory during the summer with mostly a bunch of other college students but there are also a couple of lifers there. I just keep telling myself only X amount of months to go before I' m finished here forever. Some of the stuff the lifers do is so stupid... I guess that' s why they work in a factory though.
We' ve been working at least 45 hour weeks the whole summer but this next week is supposed to only be 40 so I' m excited. I usually have to wake up at 4 am but now I get to sleep in until 5 am. w00t
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RE: The weed thread - Jul 23, 2006 05:16
If you have a crappy job you' re stuck at you should really get yourself a hobby that at least gives you a feeling of making progress.
I' d recommend training martial arts. It improves health, combat ability, self-confidence, concentration and you get to meet lots of nice friends.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 23, 2006 07:41
If you consider videogames a hobby then I already have one that has been severely neglected because I had no time or energy to play. Usually after getting home from work I would go straight to bed and wake up only for supper, and go straight to bed afterwards. By the time I punch out I' m ready to collapse. It doesn' t even matter anymore, I' m through with that place. I only have a week left and I already feel like a new man.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 23, 2006 09:51
Game Junkie, this is what I suggest (I know you' re tired of us know-it-alls, but this is just a suggestion)

You think too much. You say that everyone thinks their too intelligent, but ignorance is bliss. So why are so many other people happy, but you are not? My advice is to not worry about the worlds population. Don' t worry about the government, and how much of a slave we all are in the corporate world. Don' t worry about life having meaning, and having a meaningful job. F*ck all that!

Find a job that you can TOLERATE (unless you can find one that you enjoy).

Pay your bills.

Have FUN!

My friend Todd is never home. That guy, whenever I call him, is out with friends, cliff-jumping, sky-diving, at concerts, at the movies, playing video games. Something! He never sleeps, either. Maybe 3 or 4 hours a day, MAX! Always living life to the fullest!

Oh, yeah. Bish was kinda right. He said getting laid, but I' ll go one step further and say, find a young lady that you enjoy spending time with. It' s kind of hard to look for something like that, but do NOT let an opportunity pass you by if you get a shot!

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 24, 2006 13:49
I' m not sick of you guys, I have to say though like everyone who knows me you are misunderstanding me. You guys seem to think I' m depressed or pessimistic when I' m just being a realist. The way I see the world now is the same way I' ve always seen it. There' s nothing different about me or my lifestyle that made me all of a sudden despise the world. Even when I was four years old I was questioning my existance and purpose. It' s something that is so deep-rooted in my psyche that to change that would be to change who I am.

Everyone has things that they like and things they hate. For most people, (everyone I' ve met anyways) the things they like are used as distractions to escape from the things they hate. I could chase after a woman go sky diving or even play the guitar. However the things I can' t stand, the things that are bothering me are so much greater then these simple pleasures that I have nowhere to run. I prefer to face my demons head on.

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RE: The weed thread - Jul 24, 2006 20:22
Whatever, you still like videogames, that' s good enough for me .

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