w00t!

I didn' t think a conservative had a snowball' s chance in hell this election, with Bush fouling up left and right, and little spats springing up on their side of the isle.

But the liberals are positively ripping each other' s jugulars out, and I don' t think that' s going to appeal to the 20% of America who give a damn to vote. Now that both Huckabee and Romney, two people I' d be most displeased to have in the White House, are gone, it' s looking far better for McCain (The GOP' s now-frontrunner, for those who don' t keep up with US politics) than I would' ve anticipated.

I personally want to see Obama win. But, if he loses, our next best bet would be McCain.

Huckabee scares the hell out of me.

I didn' t like romney, McCain is okay I guess.
Obama would kick us into the great depression 2.

Isn' t McCain backed by Bush?

I' m pretty sure Bush hasn' t backed anyone yet.

Personally as long as Hillary and Obama don' t get elected I really don' t mind the rest of the candidates. None of them stand out as people I really want to vote for though.

Obama gets votes because he is black.

Hillary because she is a woman,and because her cheating husband did pretty well in his 8 years.

McCain has atleast show he has some honor by refusing to leave his torture chamber for 5 years even though he could because of his dad and his money.
USA had has trops in Korea for over 50 years,so when he said 100 years in Iraq he obviously doesnt mean 135k trops as some far left wingers want you to believe.

However im not American so I shouldnt actually care or debate.

considering the president of the US controls the most powerful and influential country in the world everything should be interested whether they choose another neo-con nut job like Bush (which as far I can ascertain McCain isn' t) or some lefty type like the Democrats. Not that we can influence what goes on, but we should at least be prepared.

Isn' t McCain backed by Bush?

No, and I doubt he would. McCain' s fiscally conservative. Bush is spending money he doesn' t have.

If anything, Huckabee is closer to Bush in terms of political and social beliefs. Romney flip-flopped back and forth on gay marriage, abortion, gays in the military. He wasn' t somebody to be trusted whatever it is you believe.

Huckabee... don' t get me started on Huckabee.

He was the man who said that AIDS victims should be interred in gigantic camps in the early nineties to prevent the spread of the disease.

' Nuff said.

He was the man who said that AIDS victims should be interred in gigantic camps in the early nineties to prevent the spread of the disease

Something has to be done

Touche

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I' m pretty sure Bush hasn' t backed anyone yet.

Personally as long as Hillary and Obama don' t get elected I really don' t mind the rest of the candidates. None of them stand out as people I really want to vote for though.

Sorry, ...THIS is what i was refering to. I' m not up on how the system works there. I figured that since Romney withdrew... Bush would back the other Republican.

The current president always back his party' s front runner for the next election. It happens regardless of whether the president is really a true supporter of person running. From the sound of it McCain has many different views in comparison to Bush. In fact they have very little in common other than that they are both Republican. The whole party system in the States is pretty flawed.

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

The whole party system in the States is pretty flawed.

The party system IS the flaw IMO. The only reason I support Obama vs McCain is that in order to win, McCain has to be a republican. Being a republican means he travels with all those other assholes in tow.

Every canadate should be forced to run independent.

Every canadate should be forced to run independent.

I agree. Our current party system means you don' t get in unless you' re Democratic or Republican, and if you are, you have to have shitloads of money (Crosses finger for Ron Paul ' 12... if he' s still sitting upright by then).

Sorry, ...THIS is what i was refering to. I' m not up on how the system works there. I figured that since Romney withdrew... Bush would back the other Republican.

Heh, neither is anybody over here buddy.

What really pisses me off is when people don' t vote, and subsequently bitch, or do vote, and only because " he looks like a nice enough guy" , " he sounds honest" , or " he doesn' t like war" ... Those are the idiots are ruining the country, and making it more difficult for the rest of the 20% of citizens who do vote (an embarrassing number, I should add) to make their educated choice heard.

Yes,but some doesnt vote in protest.

In Sweden there is atleast like 7 parties.

In USA you have to choose between two people :S

In USA you have to choose between two people :S

No, in the US you' ve got the right to vote for whoever you want, as long as they' re at least 35, born in the USA, and a citizen.

It' s just wound up that there are two large frontrunning parties.

We' ve got hundreds in the US, just not many of them make it as far as Democrats & Republicans do.

If people wanted real change, they' d all vote for whoever they thought did the best job, instead of who they think will " be good enough" .

Anyway, people don' t vote in protest, yes, but if they don' t put forward either themselves, or someone else for president, they have no right to complain about the state of the country. Anyhow, I highly doubt 80% of us are protesting voting. I' m guessing about 5% of us are not voting because we' re protesting. The other 75% are just too apathetic and lazy to care. That' s what happens when you grow up in a " perfect" setup of government. People stop caring once they have the right to do something.

At least in MN Ron Paul got 16% of the vote.

I vote my conscience, regardless of whether the candidate has a " realistic" chance of winning. I think the people who tell me I' m " wasting" my vote are full of s*** and perhaps lack some integrity, always settling for the lesser of two evils.

can someone explain the major players in this election.. I feel I' m missing something.

Well now all there really is is McCain on the republican side. He basically won that.

So now there is the battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton for the Democrat nomination. It seems to me like Clinton will probably win, but it is up for grabs.

Then in the election it will be a battle between Obama or Clinton and McCain.