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Silentbomber

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Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 10:35
Place your bets people, Who are you voting for? who will win in a few years time? this thread serves the purpose for those of us to say! " ha! I was right all along!"

So you going to vote for Blue Ray or Hd-dvd? and ye have to give reasons.

Personaly,I pick Blue Ray,Because with an install base as large as the ps3 market, it cant lose.
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 10:37
I hope Blue-Ray simply ' cause I love capacity, but Vote HD-DVD ' cuz it' s cheap
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 10:39
I hate them both, I vote for holographic discs. Untill those come out or either HD or BR get rid of their DRM protocols I' m sticking with good old DVDs.
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 12:15

Personaly,I pick Blue Ray,Because with an install base as large as the ps3 market, it cant lose.


Im hoping that was a joke. What installed base?
Nitro

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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 20:21
HD-DVD is way ahead at the moment. The 360 HD-DVD drive is out in the US and will be out in 3 weeks in the EU, unless Sony can ramp up PS3 production about 3000% then Blu-Ray ain' t catching up any time soon.
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 21:40

HD-DVD is way ahead at the moment.


how the hell is that possible? Ahead Please tell me how the hd-dvd is ahead
the only advantage hd-dvd has is its cheaper than Blue Ray And for the Hd-dvd players I doubt there are a lot of them out there as the blue ray player maybe the 360 drive but for a stand alone player which can cost from $800 to 1000. ( Blue Ray Also ) Blue Ray packs more for the buck to me anyway

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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 23:03

how the hell is that possible? Ahead Please tell me how the hd-dvd is ahead
the only advantage hd-dvd has is its cheaper than Blue Ray And for the Hd-dvd players I doubt there are a lot of them out there as the blue ray player maybe the 360 drive but for a stand alone player which can cost from $800 to 1000. ( Blue Ray Also ) Blue Ray packs more for the buck to me anyway


No offense, but you dont know what youre talking about here. HD-DVD is way ahead at the moment. Also, more bang for the buck? HD-DVD. Read some comparative reviews, HD-DVD actually looks better, and the majority of people still feel there is no need for a new format.
Nitro

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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 18, 2006 23:41
Mikay, go HERE and see Amazon' s realtime software sales.



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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 00:47

Im hoping that was a joke. What installed base?


It wasnt, clearly you know the Ps3 is going to sell into the millions, and every owner will have a blue ray player. I would think hd dvd would have a hard time trying to out sell the ps3.

The differance between the two are small, blue ray has more space and the current hd-dvd movies are a small bit better quailty.
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 00:48

HD-DVD is way ahead at the moment


I would have to Diss Agree there my man HD-DVD is way ahead at the moment. Please Explain how besides the HD-DVD being cheaper. I' ll Give you some Advantages and Disadvantages


No offense, but you dont know what youre talking about here.


Sure I do But maybe I can learn Something new


Mikay, go HERE and see Amazon' s realtime software sales.


Nice Site I am not talking about sales I talking Future Proof And disc Capacity wise Blue Ray is the way to go when it come to HD-Content Trust me the more Space the better . It' s better to have the space than need the space and not have it. I dont see Hd-dvd as the better media

But the software Side HD-DVD Seems to be taking off very well


here' s an site I found that can explain things very well

Thanks for that site majki

its 2 years old lol I' ll do better later got to go

here
Nitro

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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 01:13
With single, dual and triple layer discs by the end of next year, size, as far as movies are concerned won' t be an issue for either medium.

If PS3 sells Blu-Ray movies then sure, Sony could end up dominating the home movie market, but Sony' s track record with things like this is dire. UMD is all but dead and that' s followed Beta Max and Mini Disc to the grave. Sony' s own DVD format lost out to Toshiba last time around, why would Blu-Ray be any different?! Shit, Beta-Max had more storage space than VHS and it still bombed.

Size will only be an issue when it comes to recordable PC drives and they certainly won' t decide the winner as far as sales are concerned.

Microsoft and Toshiba have made it so their HD-DVD drive can be used with PC' s. That means that they are releasing the cheapest next-gen DVD player, and since standalone players cost $500-$1200 (from HD-DVD - Blu-Ray) a $199 HD-DVD player has to be an awesome thing. Surely?

Combo players will be available next year and so the format war won' t matter all that much. Sony must win though because if they don' t they could be royally screwed and PS3 won' t be able to help them.

HD-DVD is ahead are far as sales are concerned, i probably should have made that clearer. Blu-Ray could very quickly catch up, but Sony would first need to get PS3' s into people homes and it' ll be 6-9 months before we' re talking potentially meaningful figures.

Still, holographic discs will blow them both away and i' d actually like to see some 10+GB flash like cards. Discs suck in general and i' d rather have SD-esque cards instead.
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 01:33
What if I never buy stuff and just download stuff on the Internet... will I need any of them then?
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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 01:34

Silentbomber:

Place your bets people, Who are you voting for? who will win in a few years time? this thread serves the purpose for those of us to say! " ha! I was right all along!"



Mr poom-tang magnet (Aug ' 06):




What WE should be talking about is Blu-Rays inclusion in PS3 and whether that will make Blu-Ray successful or whether Blu-Rays potential failure in other markets could spell doom for Sony' s next gen games machine.



...k...

...by the end of 2008, 95% of people buying high def films will be doing so purely because of the PS3 in their lounges...

...almost no-one will be buying HD-DVD films because no one will be bothered to buy a dedicated player.....

....if HD-DVD behaves like DVD and drastically reduces it' s prices over the space of 3-5 years, Blu-ray might, finally, have some serious competition.....


....in short, Blu-ray will dominate for the next 2-3 years, then HD-DVD will likely fight back with DVD-like prices, which would be met shortly after with lower Blu-ray player prices and a $350 Premium PS3....




A few questions in regards to that:
1)Will buyers be buying the PS3 for mainly gaming or a cheap blu-ray player?


...both... ...just like what they did for PS2....




2)How many do you need out there to warrent drops in price of production?
-This is more of a spin-off to the fact on the recent production issues coming out latly. Basically asking is that first batch of just a few mil gonna hold up enough to bring costs down soon enough?


...i don' t know about actual amounts, but i' d expect the PS3 to behave like any other piece of high end consumer kit, and have its price reduced by $200 within 2 years of its release, which would be reduced for a second time maybe 18 months after the first reduction...




3)Even with all those players out there are people going to willingly pay $60+ for games in addition to $35+ for movies?


...i' d expect prices for PS3 games to be either the same as 360 or at a $5 premium, which to most people is more or less acceptable.... ...the same would apply to Blu-ray movies ($5 premium, annoying but acceptable)


...ha...

...i was right all along.....
Nitro

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RE: Place your bets! Blue Ray Vs. Hd-Dvd, Who Will Win? - Nov 19, 2006 03:50
Sony are losing approx $300 per console, a price reduction ain;t happening soon, and $200 in 2 years would be virtually impossible. PSP hasn' t seen a price reduction because it costs them so much to make the damn things. PS3 is the same.

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