New PC! Any recommended programs or games?

AV and extra firewalls are for nubs

Right...I bet you have neither a firewall nor antivirus. Plus those are for free and works well.
If I had a dime for every time someone misused/misspell " noob" . I would take that cash and buy a bat and then beat the living ***** out of them. Kids these days.

For 3D stuff; 3DSMax, LightWave, Maya, Softimage or ZBrush.

Provided this person is into 3d objects, rendering, making masks, vectorizing.

If I want to mess around with making pictures, flash or 3D stuff, what programs should I get?

Macromedia Flash Professional 8. *Everything flash +++*

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

All I use is windows XP' s built in firewall, no anti-virus programs. And NEVER have gotten a virus, spyware, hacked, or anything like that.

Because I' m not a nub.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

I' m using XP' s built in firewall.
I' m using a free anti-virus program because without one Xp keept saying that I wasn' t protected blahablaha which was getting on my nerves.'
I' m also scanning my PC with AdAware every now and then.

Provided this person is into 3d objects, rendering, making masks, vectorizing.

With time, I will learn. I' ve read about some of the stuff before. I played with something called a ray-tracer before, which taught me a couple of things.
I' m not going to use the programs for professional projects, I just like to play around with things that helps my creativity.

Well without wanting to upset you Locopuyo, you are either the luckiest person alive or a dumb idiot, I will allow you too chose which you are.

Av and firewall protection is not for Nubs, noobs, twats, nobs or any other derogatory term for a person. In fact anybody who is not using any form of protection is a F)*kwit. As an IT professional in this day and age you cannot rely on being lucky.

Ginjirou I would recommend getting a 3rd party AV and Firewall installed as windows firewall is ok for blocking intrusions however it is a bit flakey if you want to say host a game or use 3rd party game comms software. Something like Panda is very user friendly and it isn' t such a resource whore as Norton' s.

It isn' t luck. Obviously I just know what I' m doing. I don' t download and execute virus.exe email attachments, go to goggle.com with internet exploader or use other unsecure programs. It really isn' t that hard to avoid that stuff.

I understand using AV for all of the nubs on your systems.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Nope it is just dumb luck then in your case. I bet you don' t get spam or adware either?

Using AV is common sense something you obviously have very little of.

I don' t download and execute virus.exe

That' s the funniest thing that i ever heard.
I' m not going to say much on this. Sooner or later you' ll dance with the reaper.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

I never used any anti-virus thingies on my old PC which I had for five years. I only had a couple of viruses once I scanned it but none of them were dangerous.
When I scanned my friends PC though, 8000 viruses and like half of them were dangerous
I' m either extremely lucky, or too dumb, to get any viruses...

OMG THERE CAN" T BE ANYONES SMARTERS THANS ME ON THES FORUMSZ

Sorry to burst your ego but some people are smart enough to be virus free without AV software. Just because you can' t do it doesn' t mean it isn' t possible.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

In your case I wouldn' t say dumb, just lucky but it could happen at anytime, new viruses are being thrown out there all the time and it doesn' t matter how careful you are you will still get them.

BTW Locopuyo, I take it back, you are just dumb not lucky, may I ask how you know you have no viruses if you have no AV then how do you scan to make sure you are not virus free, if you use an online scanner (Even symantec and Mcaffee' s) they will report you have a virus, if you do an adware scan it will report fragmented files which could be a virus? So Mr I don' t open virus.exe files tell me how do you know you are 100% virus free?

Man whenever I build a new PC, and install my old copy of XP, it gets flooded with viruses and malware that stop my machine booting up, as soon as I connect to the web to update it. Then I need to get all that antimalware stuff like CWshredder, stinger, adaware, spybot, hijackthis, avg etc etc, just to get my computer to boot up consistently again.

I guess I could fork out for a newer copy of XP (got an SP1 disc), but I' ve already bought the damn thing and only ever built 2 PCs of my own. I shouldn' t have to! [:' (]

If you' re going to buy XP you might as well wait a few days and get Vista instead.

Sophos AV is provided free to me through my college. And I have to install it temporarily to scan my PC before I am allowed on the school' s network. I can enable it whenever I want.

You can insult me all you want. It won' t change the facts. Sorry to cause shrinkage to your e-penis.

Choupolo you can download the SP2 update from the windows web site for free and burn it to a cd. Then just install XP and then use the cd to update to SP2 before you connect to a network.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Just as I thought a cocky teenage muppet, look come back and talk about e-penile size when you have a set and you know how to use them.

Choupolo, Agent Ghost is right what a few days for Vista, although you may want to run the Vista Compatability program just to confirm which of the versions is best for you and your machine.

Yes, you are very mature. gg...

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Yea, I should' ve downloaded all the updates onto a CD first in hindsight now. I just underestimated how crap SP1 is for security nowadays!

And I couldn' t reinstall at the time since I' d already used my last activation thing. So I' d have to phone and argue with MS to get a new one. It was a mess.

I' m definitely looking forward to Vista, although I' m not gonna upgrade right away. Probably wait till they iron out the inevitable problems first.

It' s not like there' s anything that important to upgrade to at the moment. I mean they' re kinda artificially making gamers fork out for DX10 and Crysis. So I' ll wait until there are more games and until Vista establishes itself a bit more. I' ll probably get Home Premium, I' ve got a fairly up to date machine now. In the meantime, XP will do me for at least the next year...

99% of the stuff on my PC is pirated and downloaded from questionable places, you cant trust some random guy posting Office 2007 on a newsgroup, so the AV software is necessary.

As for Vista, I have a DX10 Card but still don' t feel like upgrading to it anytime soon, I' m sticking with XP for at least another year.

Are you running the ATI or the Nvidia DX10 chipset? If the 8800 could you possible confirm if it is all it is cracked up to be or not, I am still happily using my 7600GS OC 512 at the moment although everything else is geared up for a full premium Vista system.

you dont have to be a nub to get virus on your pc, any unprotected PC will get it. But then again Loco withouth an antivirus program you cant know whehter or not you have it can you?

I think people are stupid if they dont have antivirus on their PC, its not just a matter of your own security but stopping virus from spreading around!

ORIGINAL: alijay034

Are you running the ATI or the Nvidia DX10 chipset? If the 8800 could you possible confirm if it is all it is cracked up to be or not, I am still happily using my 7600GS OC 512 at the moment although everything else is geared up for a full premium Vista system.

I have an Nvidia 8800GTX Factory Overclocked from BFG, it crushes any video card I' ve ever owned. I play everything at max settings with max AA/AF and @ 60+ FPS.

Only negative is that is is an expensive upgrade since 99% of people that buy this will need a new power supply and case, the card is way too big for most mid size cases and it needs a good PSU, I had to upgrade to 700W from a 550W PSU because it just couldn' t handle it.

you dont have to be a nub to get virus on your pc, any unprotected PC will get it. But then again Loco withouth an antivirus program you cant know whehter or not you have it can you?

I think people are stupid if they dont have antivirus on their PC, its not just a matter of your own security but stopping virus from spreading around!

The question is how dangerous those viruses are. I didn' t have a anti-virus program for four or five years and when I scanned my PC I only had a few viruses and none of them were dangerous. But then again I had Windows Me.

Thanks for that Evil man, I am already running a 700W so I should be ok. Look forward to spending the £350 they are at the moment.

Think of AV as a Condom, would you goto a club pick up some random bird and then perform the horizontal mambo without a rubber?

Think of AV as a Condom, would you goto a club pick up some random bird and then perform the horizontal mambo without a rubber?

You need to stop there, before certain members of our forum need to clean their keyboards just thinking of that.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

ORIGINAL: alijay034

Think of AV as a Condom, would you goto a club pick up some random bird and then perform the horizontal mambo without a rubber?

You can still get a virus even if you use AV software.

You are no where near my level, you are such a low level you don' t even know about it.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

So what puts you at such a higher level than me little man?

my knowledge of computers

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

lmao, I' m so drunk I might die.

Locopuyo, you astound me, you are a college boy and yet you think you know more about Computers than an IT professional with MCSE,CCNA and also a BSC in Computer science, oh yes I cut my teeth on an ICL system 25, the first PC I used was a PET and I was creating sprite based games on the Amiga at the age of 14, I was also 1 of 3 people to hack into Hatfield poly' s " Secure network" at the age of 15. I will step back to my original quote you are surviving on dumb luck nothing more and nothing less.

You are so pompous you deny people can do things you can' t. I' ve been running virus free and AV software free for years.

p.s. it also blocks out your ability to find humor

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Locopuyo doesn' t know much about computers at all, as has been proven countless times in various threads, ignore him like everyone else does.

ORIGINAL: alijay034

Thanks for that Evil man, I am already running a 700W so I should be ok. Look forward to spending the £350 they are at the moment.

Think of AV as a Condom, would you goto a club pick up some random bird and then perform the horizontal mambo without a rubber?

You should be good with that if it is a good brand I hope. I went through a thermaltake, antec, and silver stone all in the 700-800w range before I settled with a PC Power & Cooling 750W, thing is insanely good.

Hopefully it should be ok, are you finding the noise acceptable as in quieter than a 360?

lmao, I' m so drunk I might die.

What were you drinking Agent?

You HAVE to get....

MONKEY ISLAND! BEST PC GAME EVER!

You could probably get al of them for about £15 ($20)

THEY ARE GREAT! IT HAS EVERYTHING! MONKEYS, PIRATES, VOODOO!

And even insult sword fighting!

Imao, I' m so drunk I might die.

Drinking or not one day we ALL will

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

ORIGINAL: alijay034

Hopefully it should be ok, are you finding the noise acceptable as in quieter than a 360?

For my PC as a whole or the videocard?

As a whole my PC is loud because everything is overclocked and I have it set up in my living room hooked up to an HDTV, from which I sit considerably far away in a couch, therefor I' m not even close enough to hear it even though it' s very loud compared to what I have in my office/room.

If you mean the 8800GTX itself, it' s surprisingly quiet for something its size, definitely not as noisy as a 360, comparing it to a 7950GT it is considerably more quiet as well.

What were you drinking Agent?

Holy shit I can' t even remember my previous post. I had a bottle of JD (40%) and 5 beers, Sols (4.5%) in the span of about four hours. It wasn' t the most I ever drank but is was pretty close.


Evil that' s a fucking sweet card. What games have you been playing with it? I' m waiting until March before I get a new GPU. By then the 8900 series and the X2900 series will be out. ATIs new cards are looking like they will fucking rock.

Sorry Evil I meant the video card but seeing as you have answered that thanks for the info.

Holy shit I can' t even remember my previous post. I had a bottle of JD (40%) and 5 beers, Sols (4.5%) in the span of about four hours. It wasn' t the most I ever drank but is was pretty close.

Fuck thats alot of drink Agent! A whole bottle of JD!! You must have been twisted!

Get ' Garry' s Mod' !

Can d/l it off steam for $9.95. Requires a Source powered game of course. My PCs weak shit til I put a bit more money into so I been messing around with Garry' s Mod more then playing Half Life 2 and what not.

Speaking of Half-Life 2. My brother has the game and I wanted to put in on my PC as well buuuuut it has that dman code lockout deal thing. Anyway around that? Hell can anyone explain whats thats all about in the first place as well. Should I be wary of that for other PC games or just Valves?