Ginjirou is right, there' s way too much Sony bashing here. So instead of wasting posts arguing about what Sony has and hasn' t done right, lets discuss what Microsoft have done wrong since their entry into the games industry.

I' ll start by saying ...

...the Xbox was way too big. I think Microsoft should have put more money into minimizing the size of the console. Perhaps even doing what Nintendo do with their handhelds and Sony do with their own consoles, and releasing modified, re-designed revisions of their hardware.

...the original Xbox pad was a joke. While the analog stick placement and inclusion of proper triggers were nice, the pad was simply way to big to be comfortable in the hands of the average non-giant.

...not securing more Japanese content was a huge mistake, if only because it' s equally popular in the west as it is in Japan. Xbox was laden with western developed, shader heavy titles, many of which lacked any sense of style.

...Xbox 360' s BC, while not completely rubbish, has been a joke as far as making the most popular titles compatible. I sold my Xbox just before getting my 360 at launch and was pissed off to find that i couldn' t play Oddworld: Strangers Wrath, the KoF & Metal Slug games and Conker: Live & Reloaded. Microsoft' s decision to pick and choose titles has been very unfair on gamers.

...not getting Virtua Fighter 5 for 360 is a crime and J Allard should pay with his life!

I was very pissed off when an viable system, being the xbox was killed when the 360 started to sell.

I would have loved to have seen a sub $100 xbox console, maybe something as slim as a laptop.

That would sell well anywhere.

Ginjirou is right, there' s way too much Sony bashing here.

Just for the record, are you making fun of me or are you actually agreeing with me?

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

Ginjirou is right, there' s way too much Sony bashing here.

Just for the record, are you making fun of me or are you actually agreeing with me?

Agreeing, that' s why my list was serious.

-Hiring Peter Moore as a figurehead. He makes some right boo boos! It doesn' t seem like he understands his target audiences much.

-Openly confessing they want 1 billion people to buy 360, but mostly only cater towards action fans and casual gamers.

-The Japan launch. What a disaster. More proof they don' t understand their target audiences.

-Relying on Halo too much. Sure it' ll sell, but they' re allowing it to define the system. I don' t think the Japanese like the macho Master Chief character much (nor do I), and could actually have been a big factor in the lack of popularity over there ' imo' . GRAW didn' t help and Gears of War is going the same way. (Now imagine if MC took off his helmet and he actually had spiky blond hair and looked like a girl! )

Saying that, I' m more optimistic about 360s prospects, just from what good things developers have had to say about it. MS as a company is a different story. Although I' m pleasantly surprised about what Peter Molyneux had to say about MS in Kikizo' s interview. (Another good one as usual )

Ahem... ok so here it goes.
Microsoft is in a grey zone to me. I don' t dislike them but I don' t like them either.

I like Windows, it' s an easy OS with many good features.

The Xbox never got my attention because it had so many flaws:
-Big controller
-Bad buttons on the controller
-Big console
-Few great exclusives
-Little support from japanese developers
-Bad marketing
-They charge you for online multiplayer
-To much focus on power, too little focus on gameplay
-DVD playback was not included, you had to buy an additional DVD remote
-Most games were PC ports, multiplatform games or remakes

All that made the Xbox the least interesting console to me. Of course, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi, Shenmue 2 and other Sega titles made me want it but it wasn' t enough.
But since the Xbox was their first try and Microsoft was facing hard competition from Nintendo and Sony I think the Xbox was just their way of getting into the market. They knew it wouldn' t be able to truly compete with Sony. They did a pretty good fight against Nintendo though.

The 360 is very interesting. I can' t really find any major mistakes there, just a couple of disappointing things.
-Online multiplayer is still charged for
-It' s still getting to many PC ports and multiplatform titles compared to its exclusives.
-The core pack
-They should' ve made a Saturn d-pad since they pretty much have a DC controller anyway
-Some problems in the beginning regarding broken discs, overheating, dangerous power cords and such
-They rushed it. They could' ve waited a little bit longer since there was no competition anyway.
-No titles at launch that I liked
-Most great titles are still to be released

My view is basically
Xbox = bad
360 = good
Microsoft in general = Ok

Microsoft didnt put a harddrive in the 360.

As Majik said, they didnt secure a Japaneese market!

They didnt lie as much as Sony (hey if it works getting a market share ;)

Good point about the DVD playback requiring you to buy the remote. That sucked!

I really cant see why you say the 360 is lacking exclusives? there are plenty there! And getting loads of multiplatform titles isnt negative, but positive. Sony has just as many multiplatform titles!

There' s not enough exclusives. I want more. Mooooooooooooooore! Not Peter Moore. Just more. For me exclusives are very important.
Multiplatform titles aren' t negative but they don' t make me more interested in the 360 since I might as well play them on another console/PC.
Btw, I mean the exclusives that are released. I see many titles coming for the 360 that looks awesome but right now I don' t feel the 360 has what it takes to make me buy one. But I feel that' s gonna change real soon. I' ll probably go for the Wii60 in the end. I' ll get the PS3... some day.

This is just childish,so because SONY is making bad things 24/7 and embarssing themself we have to find faults with MS now?

Why?

-No remote for every premium.
-core package

that' s all.

GRAW doesn' t interest you?!

It does. But that' s one of the few titles that actually interests me right now. I' m not a big fan of tactical police shooters (except for Swat 3 & 4, love those) so GRAW alone can' t sell the 360 to me.
Other titles I find interesting are DoA4, Full Auto, Kameo and Table Tennis.

Full Auto is crap.

Full Auto is garbage!

What' s Table Tennis like Quez?

Full Auto is crap.

Full Auto is garbage!

Well that reduces my 360 list down to four titles. That' s not enough for me to buy a console. But as I said, the future is looking good.

Table Tennis is gameplay at 95/100,its extremly fast pace and easy and fun to play.
Sometimes you can reach rally' s up to over 100 balls.

XBL with online tournaments and 1vs1 battles is 94/100.

SP is worth like 80/100.

If you gonna play it online you have to buy it.
If you think you gonna find great SP try it first.

Btw,change out full auto for PGR3 or Motogp 06.

In order to not keep things too serious, I’ll break down my list of some disappointments I had with the BIG X in a somewhat more primitive language (but do know I also hold no grudge against the original Xbox and have high hopes for the 360).

…Here goes:

It BIG.
It Noisy.
Smelly.
No has Shenmue 3.
To much Peter Moore.
It BIG again. Small hands + BIG controller = No good.
Also, why no have DVD? It has? Must by controller? Why?!
It noisy again. When shaking. Controller shaking is NOISY!
It is hard. I hurt when using it as pillow. Stupid!
Ugly!

I have rockstar table tennis, it' s like virtua tennis on a table (in so many words)

It' s fluid, graphics are great, and the rally' s are very tense.

And for £30 definitely worth a buy!

Hayley is the best, and we all know Quez plays as Jesper!

I' ll rant on about Microsoft later, I am sketching at the moment, and the list for
the problems with the big X is a LOOOOOOOOoooOOOOoong list.

(But not as big as the problem I have with Kaz " Ride Racer" Hrai)