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Eddie_the_Hated

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Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 16:04
Someone ' ain' t too happy with Something Awful


Assassin' s Creed Ubisoft Threatens Something Awful Over Jade Comic
Head goon at Something Awful, Richard " Lowtax" Kyanka, has been contacted by the legal representation of Ubisoft over the posting of an " extremely offensive pornographic image" of Assassin' s Creed producer Jade Raymond on the site' s popular forums. The image, which has since been pulled from multiple hosts, including the one referenced in the letter to Kyanka, depicts a cartoon character named Jade fellating a trio of gamers and... well, it just gets worse from there. The legal thread cites the linking of a " blatant, vile, and unauthorized misappropriation of Ms. Raymond' s name and likeness" that has " caused immeasurable harm to Ms. Raymond' s reputation and career, and constitute an egregious infringement of Ms. Raymond' s personal rights and privacy rights."

Lowtax responded in the expected Something Awful fashion, posting " I don' t know where this image is located, I do not know who drew it, and the only vague connection to this site is because somebody posted a link to it on these forums." His full response to Ubisoft' s legal council is worth the read.

As I said, the comic seems to have been removed from its previous hosts, but those expecting something worthwhile should look elsewhere.

In the meantime, I' m deleting all known copies of my Patrice Desilets erotic fanfic comics, just in case. It' s a shame, as I really thought the beard turned out perfect

It pains me to say it, but Something Awful seems to be in the right on this one.

Edit: Just caught the comic. It' s nowhere near as offensive as it' s made out to be. I mean, yeah, if I were Jade Raymond I' d be a little miffed, but it' s not mindless sexuality either. They were making a point with it.

I won' t post it here, a quick jaunt on Google will find it though.
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Vx Chemical

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 16:29
When your a public person you have to be able to take a bashing. Jade has been selling AC with her own pretty self, so its to be expected.
Agent Ghost

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 19:01
Leonard Crabs is going to rape her.


Who is Leonard J. Crabs?

He' s SomethingAwful.com' s lawyer

" Leonard Crabs has been practicing law ever since he was 15 years old and saw a friend wreck his bicycle into a tree. He successfully sued the owner of the tree for " gross negligence" and was awarded the sum of $15 million which he immediately spent on Pez and Hustler magazines. Now Leonard is much older and has expanded his operation to sue tree owners in over three states. He also handles various other accidents, whether they involve a tree or not. Although he prefers the tree ones much more."


http://www.somethingawful.com/d/legal-threats/index.php
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ginjirou

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 19:29


ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical

When your a public person you have to be able to take a bashing. Jade has been selling AC with her own pretty self, so its to be expected.

That' s f***ing bullshit! As soon as a women works on something she " sells it with her own pretty self" but if a man does the same job it' s " because he' s good at his job" .
It' s the male gamers who feel she' s selling it with her looks because she' s a woman. Not because she' s any different from other male devs.
It' s so typical that as soon as a female becomes big in the videogame industry something like this has to happen.
I' m sure there have been similar jokes with men in the industry but doing direct references to porno when it' s a girl is so typical. If the comic had a good point or not doesn' t really matter, it could' ve been made in a different way.
And I' m sure that a porno comic with a male developer wouldn' t have caught any interest among male gamers at all.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 19:38
Agreed with ginj.

See this is a prime example of why geeks and pretty girls dont go together.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 20:17
Jade Raymond was the producer, not the lead game designer or director. Her job is primarily marketing the game, and Ubisoft have blatantly used her sexuality and " winning smile" for that purpose.

Pretty girls who plays videogames will always garner the wrong sort attention

Every time an Assassins Creed thread was started on NeoGAF, people would be like " screw the game, we want pictures of Jade" . She' s pretty [although not as pretty as Chobot ] and Ubisoft/Jade used that to their advantage when promoting the game.

Jade Raymond: The Jessica Alba Of Gaming?


Jade Smells Pretty At London Games Fest


Meet Jade Raymond, get arrested

Jade Raymond has big ol' breasts. Oh, and something about Assassin' s Creed

I don' t see the problem.

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 20:54
The comic wasn' t funny, and a waste of a read. Can I sue him because I wasted my time reading it?
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 18, 2007 22:07

The comic wasn' t funny, and a waste of a read. Can I sue him because I wasted my time reading it?


It wasn' t even made by anyone from SomethingAwful.com
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 02:39

That' s f***ing bullshit! As soon as a women works on something she " sells it with her own pretty self" but if a man does the same job it' s " because he' s good at his job" .
It' s the male gamers who feel she' s selling it with her looks because she' s a woman. Not because she' s any different from other male devs.
It' s so typical that as soon as a female becomes big in the videogame industry something like this has to happen.
I' m sure there have been similar jokes with men in the industry but doing direct references to porno when it' s a girl is so typical. If the comic had a good point or not doesn' t really matter, it could' ve been made in a different way.
And I' m sure that a porno comic with a male developer wouldn' t have caught any interest among male gamers at all.



Wow i didnt take you for the type who prance around in bra and panties at home!

If you took them off for a bit, and put your balls back on, you would notice how jade has been more predominant than any other producer of any other game, she got and took attention because she is a pretty gal, bashing her eyes at everyone, and know when she gets a bit of satire back she goes crying.

In anycase, i dont find the comic tasteful but it takes alot to get me offended, and generally freedom of speach is important.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 03:27
I can' t even find the comic... The internets are slipping aways.
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ginjirou

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 03:57

Wow i didnt take you for the type who prance around in bra and panties at home!

If you took them off for a bit, and put your balls back on

How mature was that anyway?
It' s not a good way to be funny or to make a point. The typical " you don' t agree with my male view so I' ll picture you as a homosexual stereotype insult" is just below your level IMO.


you would notice how jade has been more predominant than any other producer of any other game,

Not by much IMO. It' s probably just you who feel so since you' re not used to seeing females in the industry. And after this I don' t think women exactly feel appealed to join the industry.




and generally freedom of speach is important.

Indeed and while I don' t like the comic I approve its existence.
But I think there' s more to Jade than just her looks.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 04:06
You people defending JAde are retarded.

Yes im sure she got her job through fantastic programming skill at one of the best developer studios,if anyone here actually belive that you must be retarded.
ginjirou

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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 04:16
She does have a computer science degree.
But a producer isn' t supposed to do programming, they deal with overseeing projects.
It seems she worked at Sony as a programmer before she moved to EA so it was probably at Sony her skills were discovered and EA found that she' d be a good producer.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 04:22
I know what a producer is supposed to do.

But tell me any producer who didnt start working as programmer?

Just as Sakaguchi programmed Final Fantasy,or how Cliffy had to make his own Jazz rabbit game to be let in as a designer,or trey parker making his own animated south park pilot epiosde,or Kitase at FInal Fantasy who had to program certain stuff in FF and then was charged as a director over a own team at FF every one of these directors/producers comes from the start as a programmers of something very well done they done.

You hardly become a producer just because you can manage a project well,you need the experience of diffrent posistions before.

So yes,to put her in there is just retarded.

But just as Ubi recently shown some good looking girl at Naruto,im sure its becaue they want to invite girls into the industry,so far its good looking girls.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 04:31
this is a showcase that most gamers on forums are pretty much immature, i just can' t believe all this fuss about one pretty girl, why all this attention ? have gamers not seen pretty girls in their life, this is pathetic. just read the stupid comments in kotaku, i wonder how old are these guys, you know it' s like gamers are too proud that finaly they have their own " Scarlett Johansson" or whatever you want to put, some think they are too cool to not like jade. seriously this is getting ridiculous.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 04:35
I heard Jade Raymond sucks, hihihi.

No seriously, she is an excellent Producer as Assassins Creed is one of the most over hyped games of all time imo. Is this because she is a good produver or because she looks good, I dunno, I think perhaps a little bit of both. She knows the geeks like to see her, and thus she gives them what they want. She uses her good looks to promote the game, which is smart of her, but people who fall for it are stupid. Anyways, after having played Assassins Creed for X hours now, I think the game is torture to play, so I have to say qudos to Jade for having hyped up such an annoying game.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 06:29
She joined the team later in development and was in GT' s recent interview,and told that her role was to gather creative idea+hire right people.

WOw,im sure she was needed.


Baloney.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 07:02
As a producer she doesn' t have to do anything to promote the game. A game like AC speaks for itself. The screenshots are the real eye candy. Saying that Jade exploits her good looks to promote the game is just as ridiculous as saying Cliffy B uses his looks to promote Gears.

The fact is, anyone who gets exposure to the public professionally has to be good looking. It' s not an asset, it' s a prerequisite.

Besides no one cares if the producer is attractive. 99% of AC owners never even heard of Jade. The other 1% doesn' t give a shit. Unless she' s giving out blow jobs...
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 07:06


ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL
But tell me any producer who didnt start working as programmer?

Akira Yamaoka for Silent Hill. But most are indeed programmers from the start.

And this whole thing with Jade is ridiculous. I also believe that a part of why she was involved was to generate extra attention. Kind of ridiculous but maybe the developers saw that the game wouldn' t totally deliver what it set out to do? Having her involved wouldn' t hurt then.

But the reactions on lots of message boards are downright pathetic. Seriously, as Aba said, it' s like they' ve never seen a woman in their lives. I don' t even get the big fuss about her looks actually. It seems as if the qualifications for being hot are these as usual : 1) be a girl (goes a VERY long way, almost automatically hot status for geeks) 2) be involved in something with games (playing or creating).

Besides that, the cartoon wasn' t really funny but it made some point of course.
I myself hadn' t heard about her untill very recently when I read through some thread about the game.
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RE: Jade Raymond VS. SomethingAwful (Round 1) - Nov 19, 2007 07:27
i think they are just a bunch of teens and wanna be teens...
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