http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/17228/Carmack-Rage-Will-Look-Worse-on-360-First-Screens/

Hmm well that should fuel some fanboy flames...

The topic title makes it sound like they had a meeting to discuss which one would look worse.  They made a decision that the 360 version will look worst.  I wonder which version they decided will look best?

PS - What the hell is "Rage"?

If this game / engine is as optimised for all plattforms as id say it is, its obviously going to look a tad worse on the least equipped plattform.

blu ray vindicated?

Still I dont understand, with ps3 even if the textures are full detail on the disc how can the system load them easily? arent they too big?

I'm thinking this is most definitely something for the PC crowd.

Correct me if I'm wrong (or not quite seeing the big picture) but can't you have only so many textures loaded into a consoles RAM at any moment, anyway?  And doesn't the 360 have the advantage over PS3 in this regard?  I mean, it seems as though Blu-ray would have the advantage of not repeating textures throughout the game, but at any given time is this the case?

Well, it is Carmack, and he is approximately 3,000,000,000 times smarter than me, so...

Still I dont understand, with ps3 even if the textures are full detailon the disc how can the system load them easily? arent they too big?

Correct me if I'm wrong (or not quite seeing the big picture) but can'tyou have only so many textures loaded into a consoles RAM at anymoment, anyway?  And doesn't the 360 have the advantage over PS3 inthis regard?  I mean, it seems as though Blu-ray would have theadvantage of not repeating textures throughout the game, but at anygiven time is this the case?

They'll be using texture-streaming. A lot of compressed low LOD placeholders, with the ultra-high resolution textures being streamed in on top of them when you get within a certain distance.

It works quite well (Look at Gears of War), and developers who don't use it tend to wind up with a title that looks a little muddy (Resistance), but it can be quite visually distracting if they don't do something to mask the "pop-in" effect.

They rather chopped up that article. What Carmack actually said to ShackNews was:

In an interview with Shacknews, id's John Carmack reiterated that theXbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than the PlayStation 3 version.

When asked whether the difference will be significant, Carmack noted that "hero shots" should look similar, but that Xbox 360 players might find a rock that is more blurry when exploring the periphery of Rage'sworld.

According to Carmack, the royalty fees to include a third disc in the Xbox 360 version would be so high that it simply isn't a feasible solution, with the programmer hoping for Microsoft to make a concession. He stressed that the issue is merely a storage problem andhas nothing to do with the power of the Xbox 360 hardware, while adding that the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray format is Sony's one leg up on the competition.

The PC DVD, 360, and PC Mac versions will all look similar. The PS3 version will have crisper textures than the afore mentioned versions, and the Blu-Ray PC and Blu-Ray Mac versions will wipe the floor with the PS3 version, due to their lack of RAM constraints.

If PC needs more than on DVD it will use more than one DVD. 

And this is why its good to own all platforms...tho my PC is shit by today's standards now. Additional I must say that "choice" is an expensive deal.

I Plan to build a gaming pc next year... maybe.

Silentbomber


I Plan to build a gaming pc next year... maybe.

TONY STARK BUILT A GAMING PC IN A CAVE!!!!!!

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and the Blu-Ray PC and Blu-Ray Mac versions will wipe the floor with the PS3 version, due to their lack of RAM constraints.

I had no Ideal blue was being used for gameing on the pc and mac. I think that's a real bad ideal seeing the drives for consumers cost and arm and a leg.

I had no Ideal blue was being used for gameing on the pc and mac. Ithink that's a real bad ideal seeing the drives for consumers cost andarm and a leg.

Lite-on sells one for $140 new. If you have a high-end gaming PC, that's a pittance for the confirmed next-of-kin to DVD-ROM.

Silentbomber

I Plan to build a gaming pc next year... maybe.

TONY STARK BUILT A GAMING PC IN A CAVE!!!!!!

Hu-huh. I just went to go see that again yesterday.

If PC needs more than on DVD it will use more than one DVD.

True.

It'll all depend on how much space they really "need" though. The DVD version could match the Blu-Ray version byte-for-byte if they use all space available, but it'll take just shy of six dual-layer DVDs, which I have a hard time seeing.

According to Id, they've got a Terabyte of uncompressed data going into Rage right now. I don't know enough about compression, or developer protocol to know what gets trimmed/compressed/ripped first when they drop to a smaller media format, so Ghost, you might have me on that one.

Hu-huh. I just went to go see that again yesterday.

I was thinking about seeing it again, just to compare it to The Dark Knight, but then when I thought about it, there is no comparison.

It's still pretty good. It was my third time seeing it in theaters.

...wait....

...What the hell are you doing posting on Kikizo at 2:30 AM? I have a reason to be up, what's your alibi?

This game will probably suck so IDGAF about any of the versions atm.

This games looks really interesting and i'll doubt Cormack would big up a title if it was heading in the direction of 'being shit'..


New trailer:      http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37832.aspx

New Interview: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37900.aspx

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This games looks really interesting and i'll doubt Cormack would big up a title if it was heading in the direction of 'being shit'..


New trailer:      http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37832.aspx

New Interview: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37900.aspx

Cormack...

...and this is a PC game at heart. Why would you want to play a console port???

Because he thinks we're all running pentium 2's and couldnt possibly run the PC version, most people here have powerful gaming computers, but he's a moron so he wouldn't know that.

emofag


Because he thinks we're all running pentium 2's and couldnt possibly run the PC version, most people here have powerful gaming computers, but he's a moron so he wouldn't know that.

lol, emofag, you make my day, you really do :)